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THE CLIMATE CHANGE MYTH that Julia wants us all to pay for
THE CLIMATE CHANGE MYTH that Julia wants us all to pay for
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I remember my son asking what "****" meant, after seeing placards calling John Howard this word during the WorkChoices rallies which featured prominently in 2007.
Hypocracy. Hypocracy of the highest fkn order from the ALP and comrades who are desperate to land a blow on Tony Abbott - when you can't win the debate, go for the insult.  Its just pathetic isn't it? And wombleoz, the Titanic's captain, follows blindly. Repeating line after line after line. "Julia didn't lie" "Tax is GOOD" "Middle class deserves a wakeup call" "Carbon tax is about HOPE"..... And on and on and on it goes. No facts, no truth, just spin and deception. Nothing's changed. From Rudd to Gillard. From Sussex Street to Capital Hill. From pink batts to a fanciful carbon tax. It is the SAME OLD LABOR. |
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"w*nker" is the word asterixed out.
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Was very angry when I got into work this morning and was labelled a "misfit" "oddball" and "extremist" by various Labor MP's including my local Labor member.
Have drafted a letter thats in the post tonight asking for an explanation, as to why, as a constituent, am I being labelled for protesting (as many have before, ie Workchoices, and in a heated manner, might I add) as an "extremist" "misfit and "oddball". Looking forward to hearing back from these amateurs. |
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A Coalition victory on Saturday will send a strong message to NSW Labor but additionally I'm expecting a big vote against this carbon tax.
NSW families can't afford another great big Labor tax. |
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ffs I love selective memory, howard lies...The GST we never ever ever will have, the children overboard, the WMD's in Iraq, but you all kept voting him in. Pfft you bunch of pathetic know alls. Weren't they major lies
 . The Wingnut monk appeals to the dumb, the shortsighted and the denialists..its incredible..very feral looney libsimo.. |
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The hangers-on emerge.
So we're back to the GST that then Prime Minister John Howard acknowledged that he ruled out - so he put it back on the table and took it to an ELECTION! And then the real beauties come out of the woodwork. WMD's in Iraq (that Labor supported Howard on)......the Children Overboard (your opinion, a lie)..........and then the typical ancient Howard-hating vitriol. "Pathetic" "Wingnuts" "Dumb" "Shortsighted" "Feral Looney Libs"............ |
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I was going to say why don't you list Labor's achievements rather than harking back to your Howard-hating vitriol, but I remembered....the achievements are very LIMITED from Rudd-Gillard Labor.
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if you want to rally get used to being called an extremist Jez, comes with the territory
interesting you want to link the nsw election to carbon tax - Greg Hunt seems to be VERY keen on NSW Labors carbon trading scheme which he says Direct Action is based on |
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I would say to NSW voters, don't just send a message to Sussex Street, send a message to Canberra - Vote Liberal this weekend and say NO to a carbon tax.
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interesting vote in the house today, a sign of things to come??? (my bolding) - from Malcolm Farr
10.29am A Labor "stunt" today saw Liberal climate change champion Malcolm Turnbull vote in Parliament against support for putting a price on carbon. It was the first time that Mr Turnbull, who has publicly backed allowing the market to cost carbon emissions, had appeared to back off his beliefs. But he denied he had changed his mind, telling news.com.au: "It was just a Labor stunt and should be treated with the disdain it deserves." Labor MP for Throsby, Stephen Jones, had moved a motion backing a carbon price: Mr Stephen Jones to move: "That this House: (1) notes that climate change is a serious economic and environmental challenge; and (2) acknowledges a carbon price is the cheapest and fairest way to cut pollution and drive investment in clean energy." The Government had expected the motion to be ignored and passed on a a show of hands along party lines. But the Coalition called a division - a vote in which MPs are listed as for and against. At least one Liberal MP entered the Chamber but abstained from a vote. The early skirmish underlined that climate change policy would again dominate Question Time and events outside the chambers. Today is the last sitting day until the May 10 Budget. |
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Mr Stephen Jones ... acknowledges a carbon price is the cheapest and fairest way to cut pollution and drive investment in clean energy."
Biography Stephen Jones won the seat of Throsby at the 2010 Federal Election. He has worked as a community worker, lawyer and union representative in and around the Throsby electorate. Stephen completed a BA (History and Politics) at the University of Wollongong, while working on various local health services and youth projects, before moving on to a law degree. He was the National Secretary of the Community and Public Sector Union for five years before stepping down in 2010 to focus on his election campaign. have we any access to the figures he bases his statement on backing the carbon price on ? |
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or do i have the wrong stephen jones here ?
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A Labor stunt, is just that wombleoz, a Labor stunt.
We all have different opinions and views, and this includes Liberals and indeed Labor people. Don't be deluded enough to think there is not a Labor MP who is not in favour of a Carbon Tax, wombleoz. Because there is. There's one point that needs to be made when we start talking about how MP's will vote - and that is that Labor MP's DO NOT have the luxury of crossing the floor. Liberals do. I was thinking about it at Question Time yesterday. There are some things in parliament, if I were an Independent, where I would likely vote with Gillard Labor - I certainly have some views that are shared by Labor people. It's a funny game politics and politiking and the battle of ideas. |
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Did u see the placard at the rally..."Juliar...is Browns Bitch" ffs lol
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I'll give you an example that may surprise.
I disagree with Tony Abbott on abortion and his position and the decision taken on the drug RU-486. |
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Yeah doesn't make sense since Brown is a homosexual.
But, really not an appropriate sign. |
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+ she's not a liar.
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AFL, even Julia Gillard has acknowledged the LIE.
Christ man.....wake up |
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same guy Thebas - the motion was only a stunt so i don't think they researched it too thoroughly
the point i was making was that a Liberal abstained on this - what will happen when it comes to voting on the real thing??? notice Malcolm Turnbull didn't take the vote seriously but sounds to me like he is leaving the door open to voting for a carbon tax as well Jez, i don't like that Labor MP's can't cross the floor but i guess rules are rules - good to hear you're a Labor man at heart, at least on a few issues [;)] interesting times ahead |
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thx womble ... the politics of this leaves me cold (no pun) ... but the topic is of the greatest interest
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I'm a Liberal, but Liberals are a broad church of ideas, opinions and backgrounds and with the freedom to cross the floor.
Labor can't barely try and make a point on this, when there own MP's get ejected from the party for dare questioning the official "party line" under all circumstances. |
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I actually know Stephen from the union - i was very anti them affiliating with the ALP saying that it was all about him getting a seat, which he did BUT i must admit he has done a good job since he has been there
gotta love politics |
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And suggesting Malcolm Turnbull's support for a pricing mechanism means this idea is the ONE and ONLY option and that its PROVEN (show us the evidence) to assist the environment and clear pollution............is total nonsense.
Nice try, but nonsense. |
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done a good job
fair enough womble ... what did he do ? |
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even though he was the new kid on the block he put his hand up in support of gay marriage, that was the standout one for me - took some guts
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And that defines "a good job", wombleoz?
ffs, they certainly set low standards for Labor MP's don't they. |
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showed character - he will do well - although i'd still be happier if the union wasn't affiliated
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He WILL do well?
I thought you said he'd DONE a good job. Does VOICING support for gay marriage make you automatically qualify as strong local member and Federal Parliamentarian? |
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Wombleoz must be trawling through StephenJones.org.au trying to find some "done a good job" stories.
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yep, qualifies for mine not many would step up so quick
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With the sort of swings we've seen in New South Wales, there's no doubt this election has seen the people absolutely reject the proposed carbon tax.
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Womble: The minute a pollie can't represent his electorate and go against party position on a vote .... fkn useless to anyone
Cheers AP |
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his/her ...oops sorry ladies[;)]
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Whoopee doo, he moved a motion in parliament to further discuss gay marriage. Suckey suck suck to Labor goes to the Greens MP. Wow, what a hero. I wonder if the people in his electorate view this heroic fkn move as "his done a good job".
ffs Absolute nonsense, wombleoz. Again, its worthwhile to note that Labor MP's are NOT able to cross the floor on votes - they do - and it's instant dismissal from the party. Liberal's CAN cross the floor. |
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I agree AP, but wombleoz trying to suggest a "gutsy" move from this particular Labor MP and that this particular motion and vocal support for gay marriage equates to "his done a good job" is total nonsense.
If it went to a vote and the Labor conference later in the year confirms that the ALP are against gay marriage - which is the current position, Mr Jones will need to vote against it, or face expulsion from the party. |
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I agree the Labor rules are dumb and they should allow people to vote how they want
As to their being any link between the result in nsw and the carbon tax |
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As to their being any link between the result in nsw and the carbon tax
lets hope juliar and the labor/greenies believe there was no link.........keep the blinkers on juliar......oblivion awaits |
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Don't knock it Secong, it's people like wombleoz, that I HOPE and PRAY every night with my Rosary Beads.....that they are STILL advising the Federal Labor Government......
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"its ok guys, the punters are LOVING the carbon tax idea"
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Jez I heard today that NSW Labor Party left a pretty big hole in our treasury and told some lies about it ...could u give some of the figures please as I didnt hear the full story?
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