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THE CLIMATE CHANGE MYTH that Julia wants us all to pay for
THE CLIMATE CHANGE MYTH that Julia wants us all to pay for
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oh look AFL avoids it too.....no time for forum as between reading Conspiracy Theories for Dummies he reads How to Pull the wool over peoples eyes re global warming err Climate Change for Dummies.......well one thing we know ....reading them confirms the dummy bit
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emissions from electricity down 7.4% last year - well done carbon tax
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QUEENSLAND'S largest power generator will today declare that Australia is one of the world's most expensive countries for energy and warn that the electricity market is being distorted by the carbon tax, mandatory renewables target and solar-rooftop subsidies.
After Stanwell took the extraordinary step yesterday of announcing it would mothball its biggest gas-fired power station and resurrect a coal facility built in the 1980s - sparking predictions that gas-fired power plants would be withdrawn in other states - it will today call for a scaling back of the renewable energy target. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/gas-prices-force-switch-to-coal-for-power-stations/story-e6frg9df-1226819086580# ..... gillard's fake-for-the-environment tax on co2 is a sick joke played on our taxpayers by our very suspicious dumped by HER OWN party ex-pm for the very tax we are talking about |
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the powers that run the co2 scam are not saying stop it - they are saying trade it ffs
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of course the old technology mob are screaming Thebas, they are losing money and market share - we won't need coal or gas in 20 years time
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gas prices making coal more attractive womble......cant have it both ways...seek alternatives then price them too high AS WELL FFS
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of course the old technology mob are screaming Thebas, they are losing money and market share - we won't need coal or gas in 20 years time
... so the carbon tax is clearly ... NOT working ... as energy producers are going back to the C O A L fired stacks ffs the tax could never work .... gillard sold her soul .. her empire .. and the nation to the UN/IPCC on the back of it promising them $20 billion of our taxpayers sovereign wealth ... each and every year ... for the IPCC's very own Slush Fund  now ... coal then burns into something else and then wall street are ... ramped up to trade it forever yeah .. its on its way out for sure  |
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we're going to solar - just a matter of time until it's for base load power as well
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i hope so womble ...
if they can get the batteries & storage right then solar is a chance to be a player .. if not for industry in general or townships as a whole ... then certainly for individuals ---- Feb 9 2012 THE nation's solar industry says 7200 jobs are at risk after the surprise axing of the Gillard government's solar hot water rebate program. The Gillard government was unapologetic today, saying the halting of the program with 30 minutes' notice was good budget practice. --- ummm good budget practice ... that's a contradiction in terms ... for her and swan |
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short sighted move by the government at the time - the scheme was too popular
on the bright side, i think solar has critical mass now and can't be stopped despite governments, past and present, trying to help their coal mining mates |
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and al gore & the IPCC (slush fund) will be devasted
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if Rudd/Gillard were serious (when the topic was red hot and the govt was throwing money around like confetti) every man and his dog would have got solar panels instead of pink batts
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pink batts actually do a lot of good as well secong
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the trouble with determining Surface Air Temperatures
you know the ones .. the ones that have risen 0.7C (yep less than 1 deg celsius) over the past 100 years straight from NASA / GISS http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/abs_temp.html The Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature (SAT) Q. What exactly do we mean by Surface Air Temperature ? A. I doubt that there is a general agreement how to answer this question. Even at the same location, the temperature near the ground may be very different from the temperature 5 ft above the ground and different again from 10 ft or 50 ft above the ground. Particularly in the presence of vegetation (say in a rain forest), the temperature above the vegetation may be very different from the temperature below the top of the vegetation. A reasonable suggestion might be to use the average temperature of the first 50 ft of air either above ground or above the top of the vegetation. To measure SAT we have to agree on what it is and, as far as I know, no such standard has been suggested or generally adopted. Even if the 50 ft standard were adopted, I cannot imagine that a weather station would build a 50 ft stack of thermometers to be able to find the true SAT at its location. --- no doubt ALL the thermometers are at the same level and at the same location they are now comparing temps to from 50+ years ago .... there is more at this link that better justifies the use of anomalies ... rather than temps ... but the ipcc and al gore are on top of it ... so lets trust them now ... how can the ipcc and al make a quid out of all this |
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wow my post got barred in record time!!!!
i'll just test that theory the l o o n i e s just don't get it |
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if its ... big al ... pulling the strings ... then mine will be chopped shortly also
better tell the asylum seekers to stay home ... australia is NOT a country of free speech |
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better tell the asylum seekers to stay home ... australia is NOT a country of free speech
the secret society that is...best call Tony he'll set them straight |
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obviously people around here with vested interests in the global warming BUSINESS cant cop the criticism of FREE SPEECH...post after post getting barred!!!!
WEAK AS.........YOU KNOW WHAT.... the powers that run the (edited as to not step on toes!!!)climate change theory (yes its just a theory!) are not saying stop it - they are saying trade it ffs ...................this is FACT wake up moderators this does not infringe ANYTHING! |
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harden up AFL/Womble/ALG
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and they still compare temperatures from 1940 with 2014 to get their 0.7c increase
yet they have thermometers based at airports lol i guess the amount of jet traffic in 1940 is about the same as jet traffic today ... so the figures are easily comparable |
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crazy stuff TB ...of course air traffic was on par
careful what you say here! the GW/CC/IPCC/GREEN/Goldfellas cops are watching with itchy fingers |
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funniest thing is the deniers keep going on about vested interests - you do realise it's big oil and coal that are funding your side of the argument
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what about the rate of extreme weather events???
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If you mean tsunamis ... they can ONLY be caused by tectonic plate shifts
If you mean hurricanes ... The suggestion by some that global warming caused by man's activities may be causing hurricane frequency to increase can't be proven from these data. https://www.icr.org/article/2589/ If you mean bushfires ... ask the firefighters & police how many are attributed to arson ... (or ask adam bandt )If you mean consecutive days of hot weather .. then Marble Bar in WA holds the WORLD RECORD of 160 consecutive days above 100F ... in the mid 1920's lol ... and has been cooling ever since ... let me know when another aussiie town has 5 months of consecutive hot weather |
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i mean all of those things, and floods and cold snaps and heat waves
the whole combination we can't pump as much **** as we do into the environment and not have an impact imo |
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and not just the pumping out from the newer cleaner (pre-combustion co2 captured) coal fired stacks either
... methane output has grown exponentially also ... a direct by-product of the rice paddy fields china's population in 1950 = 550 million china's population in 2013 = 1.354 billion almost 3 fold india's population in 1950 = 370 million india's population in 2013 = 1.23 billion almost 4 fold australia's population in 1950 = 8 million australia's population in 2013 = 23 million almost 3 fold the clearest indicator of any .... global / climate / social / natural resources ... change to our planet is ... the TRUE hockey stick graph ... world population growth ... the hugest impact imo the time will arrive when a reasonable middle class comfort and safety existence ... will be mandated ... for each and every person on earth ... OR will it ? |
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what's the alternative Thebas - i can't see population growth suddenly stopping so the only way forward is to reduce emissions
now what's the best way of doing that? - new technology how do we pay for it?? how's about a carbon tax??? |
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if the population doubles ... then we better have an alternative power source imo
nuclear (thorium = no explosions & no weapon usage but still waste to deal with) solar (get the battery storage sorted = drive towns & industry) imagine if they had pooled all the billions & billions already wasted on the fake co2 tax / trade plans ... while the amount of coal being burned increased |
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solar is the answer - just needs the investment
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blames the greens for getting into bed with labour...pack of sIuts
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Isn't it about time you guys started up a new climate change denial thread.
Julia has been retired for some time now. You need a new title. Here's a few titles you might consider using: "Tony Abbott says climate change is bullsh1t and we agree" or "Climate change deniers post here" or "Bash a non coal industry funded scientist today ... post here" I know you guys still think the earth is flat but ... BREAKING NEWS: Christopher Columbus has disproved your theory. And ... in more BREAKING NEWS: Julia Gillard is no longer Prime Minister. |
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its ... the gillard ... fake-for-the-environment deceiving co2 tax ... and it still exists you guys
... the day that labor & greens finally acknowledge the people of australia voted it ... OUT .. and allow the joke tax to disappear then this thread can also be replaced |
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as the OP I second what Thebas has said, we will retire it come the senate July 1.....then we will start up another one with reference to Julia and her watermelons who introduced it....
the powers that run the co2 scam are not saying stop it - they are saying trade it ffs best line of the thread deserves a run every comment! just as womble has a 3 word slogan (hypocrite?! lol ) for the other thread |
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thread has a while left to run in that case
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good
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hundreds of millions to help the farmers deal with the current drought - climate change should be front and centre of the announcement today, very unlikely to get a mention
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are you saying that australia never had a drought before ... or that a govt never provided drought relief prior also ?
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why would CC be at front and centre Womble?
The climate always changes...just as droughts come and go, look at the history books |