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However, an X Factor spokeswoman said: "The order in which acts perform varies each week. None of the finalists are shown preferential treatment, with each of them getting their chance to shine on the stage."
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Take note of act on after first ad break ... been in bottom 2 for last 5 weeks
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surely coincidence grendel???
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actually whoever does will be on again so may not count against them unless they get another first on after ads slot
maybe coincidence nick .. who knows but last year and this year acts on with another act after them before an ad break are statistically more liable to be in bottom 2 |
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Wagner ------- OD Mary ------- Cher Rebecca ------- Matt Katie might mix up ad breaks in 2nd half? |
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Wagner
------- OD Mary ------- Cher Rebecca ------- Matt Katie ------- Wagner OD ------- Mary ------- Rebecca Katie ------- Matt Cher |
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All on one post with bottom 3 or 2 in BOLD
Show 1 FYD, Matt * John, Rebecca * Storm, Belle Amie * Cher * Diva Fever, Paije * Katie, Mary, Nicolo * One D., Wagner * Aiden, Treyc Show 2 Storm * Treyc * Paije, One Dir * Cher, John * Diva Fever * Rebecca, Aiden * Wagner, Katie * Belle Amie, Mary * Matt Show 3 Paije * John, Rebecca * Cher * Matt, One D * Treyc, Mary * Aiden * Belle Amie, Wagner* Katie Show 4 Mary, Aiden * Belle Amie, Rebecca * Treyc * Matt, Wagner * Paije, Katie * One Direction, Cher Show 5 Cher, Mary * Katie, Aiden * Paije, Rebecca * Wagner, Matt * Treyc * One D Show 6 Paije * Aiden, Mary * Katie, Matt * Cher, Wagner * One D * Rebecca Show 7 Matt * Cher, One D. * Rebecca, Mary * Paije, Wagner * Katie Show 8 Wagner * One D, Mary * Cher, Rebecca * Matt, Katie * Wagner, One D., Mary * Rebecca, Katie * Matt, Cher |
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Double curse of Mary for One D. plus 2 performances with a following act before an ad break.... I can see them being in the bottom 3
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grendel
I think bar Matt it could be anybody. Very open make a claim for all of them. |
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grendel, FWIW only first performance had an act after then before the ad break.
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no both squares, there was no ad break between One D and Mary's second performances, was in a 3 act section .... i knew i wasn't going mad as I just rechecked on my Sky+
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oh really grendel, so it went
ads 8 Wagner 9 OD 10 Mary ads Cheers, I thought Mary had that as a single slot. |
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1st songs
1. Rebecca ads 2. Mary 3. Matt ads 4. Cher 5. OD |
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6. Matt 7. Mary ads 8. Cher 9. rebecca ads 10. OD |
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so the order was mixed up for the 2nd songs again.
Mary only remaining act to have never closed the show. Started off with lateish slots but has been on earlies since. Cher has opened the show once and closed it twice. Rebecca has opened it once (last night) and closed it once. Matt also in 1st once and last once (some time ago). OD only remaining act to have never opened the show and have closed it twice, including last night. |
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The order was very interesting last night.
Assuming they felt they had to let Rebecca perform nearer the end of the show than Cher this week to avoid any accusations of bias, they could hardly have done more to negate the impact of a late slot for her. i.e. First song sung as far away from the vote opening as possible, second song squeezed into the final segment between Cher and 1D (three songs after the adverts?) Rebecca did more than enough to compensate for the positioning but it certainly seems as if the intention was to neutralise the adavantage of a obligatory late slot for her as much as possible? |
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Order and Voting positions:-
Show 1 FYD 14, Matt 2 * John 9, Rebecca 6 * Storm 13, Belle Amie 11 * Cher 3 * Diva F 10, Paije 7 * Katie 15, Mary 1, Nicolo 16 * One D 4, Wagner 12 * Aiden 5, Treyc 8 Show 2 Storm 14, Treyc 10 * Paije 9, One D 3 * Cher 6, John 7 * Diva F 12 * Rebecca 5, Aiden 4 * Wagner 11, Katie 8 * Belle Amie 13, Mary 2 * Matt 1 Show 3 Paije 7 * John 11, Rebecca 5 * Cher 4 * Matt 1, One D 3 * Treyc 12, Mary 2 * Aiden 6 * Belle Amie 10, Wagner 9 * Katie 8 Show 4 Mary 3, Aiden 6 * Belle Amie 11, Rebecca 5 * TreyC 9 * Matt 1, Wagner 8 * Paije 7, Katie 10 * One D 4, Cher 2 Show 5 Cher 5, Mary 4 * Katie 10, Aiden 6 * Paije 7, Rebecca 2 * Wagner 8, Matt 1 * Treyc 9 * One D 3 Show 6 Paije 6 * Aiden 9, Mary 4 * Katie 8, Matt 1 * Cher 5, Wagner 7 * One D 3 * Rebecca 2 Show 7 Matt 1 * Cher 8, One D 4 * Rebecca 3, Mary 5 * Paije 7, Wagner 6 * Katie 2 |
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Cheers grendel, nice work.
Interesting that over 11 shows (with last night being the 11th) P1mp slots Girls 8/11 Groups 2/11 Boys 1/11 Olds 0/11 Coffin slots Boys 5/11 Olds 3/11 Girls 2/11 Groups 1/11 so it can never be assumed that anyone is due anything for the sake of fairness. |
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That's really interesting. The manipulation this year has plumbed new depths and been quite cynical at times. But providing you can factor this in to your punting it's an invaluable weapon to have in your armoury, not only for the elimination betting, but it really does give a good steer on who they want out / keep in - and more importantly, who they desperately need to help to remain in the competition...
Will be fascinating to overlay these with the actual voting percentages once known... |
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I was saying that to a random mum on the school run this morning Dizzy
Loaded question but she agreed wholeheartedly that Cowell manipulation to get the final he wanted was way over the top this year Finally the general public have sussed him a little? His popularity is nowhere near what it was a couple or three years ago. Lucie did for him |
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The % are out btw, I think
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yep
http://xfactor.tellymix.co.uk/results |
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They had to get Cher into the final 4. Mary would have looked ridiculous with Will I Am
 Actually, would love to have seen Mary and Christina Ag. When CA turned up trying to steal the show, Mary would have just boomed over her and if she tried any more diva tactics Mary could have elbowed her out of the way, or just stood in front of her to make her vanish. Sounds like something they could do on TV Burp. |
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Mary would have got Westlife
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Or Johnny Logan
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Could have got Vince Clark back to do "Only You"
very 80s retro/le roux styleee  |
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over the weekend I couldn't get Leave In Silence out of my head.
Now, for some reason, you've reminded me of How Winter Kills, aa |
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got some terible news ..late last night.
alan normile,lucy normile's husband/assistant trainer died of cancer. only 38,very young family...always enjoyed the crack at the local courses up here nothing you can really say  |
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saw that in the RP this morning aa. A total shocker to say the least
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It's right waht you say and great stuff as ever with you. I'd love to be able to sit Cowell down and ask him "Why is it they don't all get a turn each at going first, a turn second, the last spot" etc etc. I wonder how he could answer it? It's blatantly unfair from your figures so how could he defend it, what could he say? |
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He'd say "it's my show and I can do what the fk I like"
 which is more or less what he said after the Mary/Cher debacle. |
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Seriously though I wonder how he could answer it?
Another thing rergarding order: Whilst it's definately not favourable to sing first when Matt did 'Come Together' fist which i didn't think was great in a very poor 'Beatles week' he still topped the vote! |
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must have been that vest
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Amazing. He turned out to be bomb proof. Not even Laryngitis could stop him...
I thought he was poor in Beatles week too; wrong song choice and graveyard slot, but obviously the juggernaut was already well on its way by then! |
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Lou
 Squares  All's well that ends well |
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I don't think it is amazing at all.
The show is hugely uncompetitive at the top end, and we had an extremely votable person for this audience who was arguably the best performer and in the top 2 singers. The show is crafted to look like it is an open contest. |
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Tell that to Paije [;)]
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Cheers grendel. Unless I'm reading it wrong suggests opening show ain't fatal (weeks 1 and 2 i think overlapped with end of SCD; certainly week 2 did)but pimp spot is a big advantage.
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Cider - I agree that there were only 4 or 5 possible winners from the outset (some would argue only 2 or 3), but what I thought was amazing was that Matt could still top the vote with a sizeable percentage in a week when he was on first with a poor song choice and performed badly (compared to other standout performances).
As GB says, the opening slot obviously isn't fatal if you have a strong enough contestant to carry it. As soon as one of the weaker singers gets the graveyard shift, that's the time to plunge on. But the voting patterns still prove that there's absolutely no point in punting on the elimination market until you know the running order. It's the only thing that kept Wagner and Katie in so long (that and dodgy sing off / deadlock decisions!) |
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The order of the first show is irrelevant as there was no voting but show 2 was:-
Nu Vibe * Sammi * Craig, Janet * Frankie, Jonny * Marcus, Rhythmix * Misha * The Risk, Sophie * Kitty Frankie continues the trend of an act having an act after them before ad break being in the bottom 2, being blooody awful helped too of course. |