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By:
kincsem
When: 18 May 14 15:47
Kerrygold
dont waste your time on suarez - everything is known about him , at international level now he will be marked way tighter than ever before...no chance here zero chance....


My recommendation for top goalscorer is to make a list of the "unknown" forwards, and wait until a few matches have been played. Some small country player will score a few and all prices will go crazy.
In the last World Cup I was watching Suarez, and when he didn't score in Uruguay's first match he was available at 630s (yes 630, not a typing error).  He scored two in Uruguay's second game, and his price wasn't 630.

I see Italy V Uruguay is listed above as an early kick-off match at a hot and humid venue, with the suggestion that Uruguay would be favoured by the conditions.
Are Uruguay really at an advantage?  It you look at the Uruguay World Cup squad on Wiki you will see that one player plays in Uruguay, 4 in Brazil, 16 play in Europe.
But you might say they are used to the hot conditions in their homeland, Uruguay, and they will carry that ability from their youth to handle hot conditions, even though they don't now play in them.
Is there much difference between the summer temperatures in Uruguay and Italy.  I have checked.  Not much difference.  And do they actually play football during the summer in Uruguay and Italy?

Football is now a big money game, played mostly in Europe.  Almost every squad in the World Cup is composed of European league players.
I first came across this "country" thinking in the 1994 WC when I backed Nigeria at 150/1 and they went well.  21 of their 23 man squad played in Europe (one in Ivory Coast, one in Egypt).
By:
marychain1
When: 18 May 14 16:25
It may be true that the average temperature isn't much different between Italy and Uruguay, but Uruguay seemed to cope pretty easily in the Confed cup where Italy and Spain struggled noticably. Spain wilted after bossing the first hour of their game with Uruguay and similarly Italy in their game against Japan looked out on their feet in the last half an hour.

I think humiditity may be a more important factor than just heat, and the combination of the two will be hardest of all.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 May 14 16:49
Spain v Italy was played in terrible conditions
By:
padlock
When: 18 May 14 18:18
just read there will be 3minute water breaks during games if temp above 32degrees ffs Crazy slow games
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 May 14 21:09
Poor Ireland in USA 94.  Think they played three of their four games in the aptly named Citrus Bowl.  Still remember the temperature showing 100 degrees F in one of the gamesLaugh

Funnily enough, although Brazil won, the seven other quarter finalists were all European
By:
Kerrygold
When: 18 May 14 23:27
you fellas are brain washed watching suarez in the an overated league - will be funny to watch when he fails badly ..cannot wait Grin


anyway fellas dont be bitter , i just put up proper bets here...this is strong ..just bet this stuff at different books and thank me laterGrin
By:
tobermory
When: 19 May 14 00:37
IMO people make too much of the conditions . Teams will acclimatise .

I don't recall Spain wilting v Uruguay , coasting more like .
By:
metaphor
When: 19 May 14 18:09
ability matters far more than weather conditions. the team with the best players will almost certainly win.
By:
marychain1
When: 19 May 14 19:04
of course they will, in fact I don't know why they're even bothering playing the games.
By:
metaphor
When: 19 May 14 19:27
it's difficult to see past spain. they've been there and done it all. they're winners. they have proven ability and are under no pressure. lets face it they don't owe anyone anything. no one will dare complain if they fail to win, and looking around there are no outstanding sides. the argies look good on paper but never deliver. brazil are nothing special. who else? germany, holland and italy aren't good enough to beat spain as we have seen. anyone else? i cant think of any... 


so to recap ... a settled team with a proven and settled style of football - lots of ability - under no pressure - proven winners - wont mind the conditions


spain will win the wc
By:
iprefertolay
When: 19 May 14 20:17
Ive backed Spain £25 and bet refunded if Brazil or Argentina win it, online customers at Coral.
Great offer, check it out.
By:
marychain1
When: 19 May 14 20:29
Well we've taken our positions, and we're entrenched. There's no point going over old ground repeatedly, but I wish to point out for the record my belief that Xavi and Iniesta are past their best, Spain will be found out by a more mobile outfit at some stage and won't win the World Cup.

If they do I'll hold my hands up and say I was wrong. Won't be the first time after all.
By:
San Quentin
When: 19 May 14 22:44
recap please mary your outright bet tx
By:
iprefertolay
When: 19 May 14 22:52
mary reckons brazil to win it.
By:
bardo
When: 19 May 14 23:28
Portugal very much under the radar , nobody seems to be talking about them.

Ronaldo will take them to the quarter finals and from there who knows.

Portugal will enjoy the support of the locals too.

They took Spain to the wire at the semis of the euros and only went out on penalties.

Portugal could be this years version of Uruguay in 2010
By:
marychain1
When: 20 May 14 00:05
World Cup Outright Bets

Those who have read my group analyses may already have an idea on who I see as likely winners, but here’s my look at the favourites.

I can see why some people don’t rate Brazil - they don’t seem to have the stars of recent years, and some of their key players haven’t had the best of seasons. There have also been loads of rumours of the lack of support for this tournament, and bad organisation. I’ve heard talk about the pressure of being at home as well. But the way I look at it is this – the Confederations Cup gave us a big clue of how this tournament will go. The Brazil squad with its lack of stars is perfect to get the job done, and in Big Phil Scolari they have the perfect manager. Loads of Brazil’s players leave their club form far behind when they pull on the yellow shirts. I look at Brazil’s team and I like every part of it, where other teams seem to have weakness in some positions. Moreover, like the London Olympics, once this tournament gets going the public will get on board, big time! The atmosphere for the Confederations Cup final against Spain was astonishing, it lifted the Brazil team and they will get that and more match after match in this World Cup. Anyone that beats Brazil will have to do it in Brazil’s back yard, and I don’t know who is capable of that. They have a really friendly group, and if they don’t win it comfortably it will be a big shock. They will probably play Holland or Chile in the second round, which isn’t ideal, but I’d expect them to beat either. A quarter final against the Group C winners (Columbia?) or Group D runners up (Italy? England?) awaits, but that will in the humid conditions of Fortaleza and would be a tough ask for a European side. By the semi-finals they will be on a roll and this tournament will be buidling to a crescendo. Semi-finals and final could be against anyone but it will presumably be the crème-de-la-crème. Home advantage will be a massive factor at this stage and all being well I’d expect to see Brazil a very short price. They are my idea of the winners and will be my main bet.

Argentina have the best player in the world in my eyes in Messi, and have talent all over the pitch. I expect them to score a lot of goals but I think they are vulnerable against the very good sides. I backed them 4 years ago and was ultra-confident after the group stages that they would get the job done but they got turned over by a supremely professional German team and all the talent in the world is nothing if you can’t find a team and formation that suits. The suspicion has to remain that Argentina will not be as secure defensively as other top sides. A Brazil v Argentina final would be an amazing spectacle and while that could happen I think the semis might be where Argentina’s tournament ends.

Germany and Spain probably represent the best European sides on paper. Spain have a fairly tough group featuring Holland and Chile but I would expect them to get through it. This group have been on the go a long time though, and I expect Spain to suffer defeat before the semi finals. Their midfield has been head and shoulders above everyone else in the world for years but Xavi and Iniesta are no spring chickens and possible knockout games in the humid conditions of Fortaleza and Salvador may prove their undoing. Germany are rightly perceived as real challengers, they have a great combination of World Cup pedigree and a top side. They do have a tough group in terms of quality of opposition, the miles they have to travel and the conditions they’ll play in. If they get through the group they’ll be very dangerous but at the price I’m happy to oppose them. I’m not sure that Gomez or Hofland will score them enough goals for them to threaten the best sides in this tournament.

Belgium are next favourites, and when you look at their team and draw they could go a long way. At 20/1 they’re short enough now though, but well done to those who got on at fancy prices. Chile, Colombia and Uruguay will all have their fans due to it being a home continent WC. Chile are without Arturo Vidal though, which tempers my enthusiasm for them. Also, Chile and Colombia do not really get to play European sides in the most hot and humid venues so you wonder how much of an advantage a home continent WC really is. Add in Colombia missing Falcao and I’m not sure they really represent a betting proposition as the big prices have all gone. Uruguay are a different case though in my eyes. They don’t seem to have any major injury concerns, have been there and done that getting to the semi-finals last time. They have genuine class in Suarez and Cavani and face Italy in Natal which could be to their advantage. Spain in the quarter finals would be the biggest potential blot on the landscape but they represent a big danger to all.

The other sides I am interested in backing are France and Portugal. I think both these teams have the potential to go a long way in this tournament. France have strength throughout the team, a decent-looking group and have no issues with playing in difficult conditions. Portugal have a cracking looking side, and if Ronaldo fires can go a long way. They have a tough group but I think they can win it and have a very successful tournament. They may have an advantage over other sides from being in a Portugese-speaking country, and I want them on board. The issue for me with these two sides is that if they both win (or come second in) their groups they are scheduled to meet in the quarter finals. Because of this I have decided to just go with Portugal and leave France (reluctantly) unbacked.

Bets

To win 2014 World Cup
Brazil 3/1 General Those who know me will know I rarely back favourites for anything, preferring to look for something at a bigger price. But I am convinced that Brazil have the strongest all round team, even though they don’t necessarily have the best players in each position. I have had my biggest bet on Brazil at 3/1, although I have held some back as I do anticipate offers once the season ends. I will be hoping that some firms go 4/1 or bigger and I will be looking to take advantage of this.

Uruguay 28/1 Coral (with money back if Brazil/Argentina win) Of all the bigger priced South American sides Uruguay are the ones who have fewest questions to answer. The have unquestionable ability, track record, winning mentality and if they get through the group, which I think they will, they will be a tough ask for anyone. Spain in the quarters is a potential blot on the landscape, but I think they can overcome that hurdle and go a long way.

Portugal 33/1 General  Not a one-man team by any means but Portugal have Ronaldo and he is capable of beating any opposition  by himself. That shouldn’t be necessary, as Portugal have an excellent side and playing this tournament in a Portugese speaking country may make this feel a bit like a home world cup for them.

To make the quarter finals
Japan 6/1 General
Ghana 10/1 Betfair Sportsbook
With a (1,2 ¼) book in a 32 team tournament there is little point in backing outsiders each way. If you do fancy a couple of long shots to progress further than  their odds would suggest, most books are pricing up the “to make the quarters” markets. The two I am going to back in this are Japan and Ghana. They are priced up at 6/1 and 10/1 respectively. Japan have the easier group on paper, and if everything goes to form they would likely be underdogs in their second round games but they only need to win one knockout match for these bets to land.

Top Goalscorer and Player of the Tournament
David Luiz 66/1 POT
Keisuke Honda 250/1 Top Goalscorer

I’m not a big one for this sort of bets. I’ll never forget having an each way double on Baros 50/1 and the Czech Republic 18/1 as top scorer/winners in Euro 2000 and being sicker than the Czechs when Greece scored with the last kick of the game in the semi-final. It’s just a small each way bet on the top goalscorer market for me. Honda will play and take free kicks. He has a decent record for Japan and is a very nice price. In the POT market I’ve gone for a defender. Not normally a good idea and Luiz’s reputation isn’t great in Britain but the Portugese, Brazilians and Spanish love him. He’s going to be a starter for the home side and favourites and he’s extremely noticeable. I can’t get the image of Luiz lifting the trophy out of my head and I had to back him at the price.

By:
metaphor
When: 20 May 14 12:26
spain's only serious opponent is the ageing process. although there is no proof of this, it's possible they are past their best. that's the only thing that worries me.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 20 May 14 13:55
Not sure about Portugal enjoying the support of the locals; colonial resentment and all that.
By:
iprefertolay
When: 20 May 14 18:45
Spain are surely a good bet with Coral giving you money back if Brazil or Argentina win it.
By:
Knight Rider
When: 21 May 14 00:46

it's difficult to see past spain. they've been there and done it all. they're winners. they have proven ability and are under no pressure. lets face it they don't owe anyone anything. no one will dare complain if they fail to win, and looking around there are no outstanding sides. the argies look good on paper but never deliver. brazil are nothing special. who else? germany, holland and italy aren't good enough to beat spain as we have seen. anyone else? i cant think of any... 


so to recap ... a settled team with a proven and settled style of football - lots of ability - under no pressure - proven winners - wont mind the conditions


spain will win the wc


A couple of rebuttals to this:

1) France were very much viewed the same heading into WC 2002.  Packed with world class players, had won the last two major tournaments; and they got knocked out of the group stage without scoring a goal.

2) You say Brazil are nothing special, and then list certain teams that have shown themselves incapable of beating Spain.  Do you give Brazil no credit for demolishing Spain last year in the Confed Cup?  That's as close a preview to this year's WC as you're going to get.  Sure you can question teams' motivation for a Confederations Cup versus a World Cup, but the fact is home teams tend to do very well at WCs and it's not normally the world's premier footballing nation hosting...

By:
dukeofpuke
When: 21 May 14 02:02

May 19, 2014 -- 11:28PM, bardo wrote:


Portugal very much under the radar , nobody seems to be talking about them.Ronaldo will take them to the quarter finals and from there who knows.Portugal will enjoy the support of the locals too. They took Spain to the wire at the semis of the euros and only went out on penalties.Portugal could be this years version of Uruguay in 2010


look back to EURO 2004 in portugal.1st game played portugal 1 greece 2 last game played portugal 0 greece 1

ronaldo played. had the support.

By:
Ozymandius
When: 21 May 14 08:25
Not knocking Portugal but that 2004 side was better than the present one; Figo, Rui Costa, Deco, Carvalho, an emerging R0naldo etc etc etc...and at home.
By:
Kerrygold
When: 21 May 14 11:02
yeah portugal had betterr players back in the day but a decade on they now have best player in the world , however seen a 10 minute interview with him in spanish yesterday- he was not very bullish on portugals chances -really talked about enjoying the tournament -talked with more vigour when talking about champs lg...

rest of my sides for first pjase of world cup already have listed alot of stuff on page 2 - people should bet that stuff as its got alot of upside to it and these bets wont be here closer to the tournament , for anyone wants to bet teams

asian handicaps have bet cam  v mexico ,             
         eng v italy
waiting on algers, and two others
also i would like to bet croatia in all there games and oppose mexico big however the condtions these matches are played in really scare me...brutal looks like...anyhow i bet cam heavy....would like to be with chile howevr the whole sharp world is on them and thats not good ethier plus looks like their main player is not on the mend as plenty believe he is, chile drifted today against aussie who are actually a terrible side -really bad outfit..  i know a few judge like italy -well i know this team very well and take it from me they will struggle ...lucky to get out of group ..if not they will be knocked out in second rd..i expect enf to go fav in the first game...
algers aint a bad side and korea are horrific , ,russia might now qualify if they are not careful
spain will get through prob an averageholland hav one good game in them might play brazil in 2nd rd - game could go either way , holland always play these brazil team v well....not mad on spain either..they will get found out in the quarts.

my best bet which is price long gone was 8/13 brazil to beat mexico -this was the openr at hills - had 1100 on it , if i could would had my 5g normal for this sort of rick but they got scared and after 2 minutes suspended fter i went through net and phonesGrin

japan i bet them in first game against the african side - might get off this as too  many people like them - not a good sign be it square people or sharps...i will prob get off them however have a reaonsble bet on them to top rest of world prop against 3 other teams

remember stay away from matches and go bet the props way better stuff , good luck
By:
metaphor
When: 21 May 14 11:14
Knight Rider, the problem with your theory is the Confederations Cup is nothing more than a friendly tournament that no one really takes seriously, except maybe for the host nation because it's in their own back-yard. Spain are notoriously poor in friendlies, everyone can beat them when the fixture means nothing. However, in competitive games it is very different. No one can beat them. If Brazil defeat Spain in the WC then fair enough but I just don't think they're good enough.

I remember France in the 2002 WC and they were actually very unlucky. They outplayed the opposition but couldn't get the ball in the net. Hitting the woodwork several times. It was one of those where had they scored one they would have scored 3 or 4. Zidane was injured, missed the first 2 games and was rushed back for the 3rd game when he wasn't fit to play. A huge loss for any side.

But that doesn't matter anyway because Spain are not France. As we know France relied heavily on Zidane. Spain don't rely on one player, they are a proper team where the individual is only one cog in the machine. And that's a great way to describe Spain... they are a machine that destroys nations.

As I said before age might catch up with Spain, but until I see it with my own eyes I expect them to do what they always do...win.
By:
Platini
When: 21 May 14 22:53
Can't have Spain at all. The golden generation enjoyed a golden period - but that time is gone. Youth and bravery wins this World Cup.

BTW, terrific work and write-up MC. You've helped narrow my selection process a fair bit. Much appreciated.
By:
Kerrygold
When: 22 May 14 10:51
looking better all the time now for costa rica deriative bets i put up page 2, smash these prop bets

told u fellas about that uruguay forward - Grin looks like hes had a very hard season it came up on him now which always happens to strikers who have had an above average season ...not a massive shock

cr7 will suck in the wc - why ,not sure he has the hunger -  he will be pretty happy with the champs lg as i said i seen an interview with him the other day , was not positive at all about wc
By:
loserschaselosers
When: 27 May 14 20:42
Fantastic work marychain. Really great that you've put the time and effort in. much appreciated. thanks.
By:
marychain1
When: 28 May 14 09:01
thankyou
By:
Wadders
When: 28 May 14 12:29
Enjoyed reading this mc1, lots of ideas to work with now, thanks
By:
Kerrygold
When: 28 May 14 23:51
reminder to all who bet outright on betfair from page 2 , please wait on the outright market many teams will be pushed out as the big players enter the market, since last week 90% of the teams have moved out

different when a player get injured then certain teams in same group will move in - so wait on outsiders in particular
By:
marychain1
When: 02 Jun 14 00:00
Added Dzeko top scorer 80/1 with Padds & £5 free bet every goal scored.

Also added point values to my bets.

Brazil to win World Cup 3/1 General (keeping an eye for offers in run-up) 2 points
Uruguay to win World Cup 28/1 Coral (Refund as free bet if Brazil/Argentina win WC) .5 point
Portugal to win World Cup 33/1 .5 point
Japan to make QF 6/1 .5 point
Ghana to make QF 10/1 .5 point
David Luiz 66/1 POT .25 point
Keisuke Honda 250/1 Top Goalscorer .25 point ew
Edin Dzeko 80/1 Top Goalscorer .5 point ew
--------------------
Cameroon to qualify from Group A 9/2 .25 point
Croatia to finish bottom of Group A 4/1 .25 point
Spain/Chile dual forecast in Group B 21/10 .5 point
Japan to qualify from Group C 5/4 .5 point
Uruguay to win group D 2/1 .5 point
Italy to finish bottom of Group D 16/1 .25 point
No bet from Group E -
Group F to be the highest scoring 7/1 no bet placed due to price change
Lay Germany as group G winners at 1.65 or less laid on Betfair laid to win 1 point
Lay Germany to qualify from Group G laid to win 1 point
Ghana to qualify from Group G 11/4 .5 point
Korea to qualify from Group H 15/8 .25 point
By:
SSIP
When: 02 Jun 14 21:16
Thanks for all the hard work; much appreciated and definitely made me think twice / to strengthen my confidence in certain bets

Main bets so far -

Group B - Dual Forecast Spain/Chile 2.88
          Quadcast      Spain/Chile/Holland/Australia   5.2
Group C - Japan Qualify 2.1-2.2
Group D - Dual Forecast England/Italy 3
Group E - Dual Forecast Ecuador/France 2.96

Winner
Germany 7.4  /  Argentina 5.8

Outside Bets

Top Scorer
Aguero  18 , Higuain  22 , Ibisevic  170

Tournament Hat-trick?  No 4.2

Group B
Dual Forecast  England / Costa Rica   46
Rock Bottom    Uruguay                11
By:
bardo
When: 02 Jun 14 22:13
what is everyones views on France.

I have them in the dark horse -long shot bracket

they have a decent team..I have them down to meet the germans in the quarter finals.

the germans have the most punishing group matches with games with 1.00 kick offs in the hottest part of brazil in recife and salvador...this will drain them no end.. the germans will be knackered

think france could then have a real chance of beating Germany to make the semis v brazil
By:
marychain1
When: 02 Jun 14 22:18
good chance i reckon
By:
bardo
When: 02 Jun 14 22:33
plus i feel France really want to make amends after the debacle of 2010... Benzema,Ribery, plus that Paul Pogba looks some playerfor Juventus

Fergie made a huge mistake letting him go from Man.Utd..

by the way excellent stuff marychain.. top drawer informative analysis.. really appreciate your efforts
By:
daveygfc
When: 03 Jun 14 13:27
Twitter has just went mad with rumours Ribery is out.
By:
Kerrygold
When: 03 Jun 14 15:52
v possible these rumours are true....the french papers already reported that he was not going to make it like yesterdy.....for the whole season he has had plenty of injury problems...very good player they will miss him for sure...
By:
bardo
When: 03 Jun 14 19:19
massive drift on France if those rumours are true..

he is their best player
By:
thelatarps
When: 03 Jun 14 20:57
For me, from a philosophical point of view a Brazilian victory would be a disaster
Not only do we have the controversial spending by the brazilian government at the
behest of FIFA
But Brazil under Scolari are a horrible team to watch
Think Mourinho's chelsea and youre getting close
There was an article in the Guardian (yes i am a coont) last saturday featuring the reminiscences by the brazilian team of 82, how awful they felt that they couldnt win the cup
That was the last great Brazilian team
A team built on possession football with stellar names like Zico, Socrates, Falcao
Ever since Brazil have gone into the world cup obsessing about the tactical threat of their european opponents
The wins in 94 and 2002 were predicated solely on the fact they had the best strikers
in the world
Romario and Bebeto in the Usa
Original-Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho in Japan
The rest of the team were utter dogsh!te imo (ok cafu and roberto carlos)
2014 seems no different
Tho for those taking the Brazil 3/1, are Fred, Hulk and Neymar the best strikers in the world?
Really?
I have to respect the Mary chain's opinion
The big thing for me about the world cup is what an absolute slog and a pain in the erse it must be for the players
You just finished an exhausting season and then it goes on for another 2 months in the sweltering heat of brazil
Make no mistake
There will be plenty of high profile millionaires, used to getting their own way in the big leagues of europe, dogging it at the first sign of trouble
Brazil will be at an advantage as their players will be supremely motivated
MC is right, the confed cup showed that.
But to me Brazil were fortunate to get by Uruguay in the semis, with a late goal in a game in which the home side were turgid
And as for the final
Well, to say the ref bottled it is an understatement.
The treatment of the spaniards was similar to what arsenal get at stoke
For most in england i suppose there will be little sympathy for barcelona players being dumped on their backsides but if the recent spanish run of success has shown anything it is resilience
Spain have been pasted by argentina and portugal in friendlies on their way to their world and european championships
I believe they would have learnt an awful lot from that confed cup game
I hope they have anyway.
It was a brazilian success built on counter attack and rugged pressuring in midfield
If anything, it showed that brazil are not the keepers of the beautiful game as so many lazy english journos will inform us in the coming weeks.
That honour lies with Spain now.
Spain are champions. So many of their squad have that mentality, you know that champion mentality that the likes of michael schumacher
valentino rossi, lennox lewis, mayweather, froch, ap mccoy, ruby, ryan moore, phil taylor (i could go on) have.
casillas, xabi alonso, sergio ramos, pique, xavi, ini I am convinced that they are dying for another crack at Brazil
Key man for me has to be Javi Martinez
I can not for the life of me see how Busquets gets the midfield job ahead of him
JM is the man who won Bayern the UCL last year
He is a one man antidote to the counter attack
Jupp Heynckes knew he could leave Javi protecting the back four and let schweini and the boys up field to dominate possession
Guardiola like Del Bosque is unconvinced and dropped him
THere was a telling sign in that awful 4-0 thrashing at the hands of real madrid that had so many neanderthals in the english press bellowing the death of tiki taka
Martinez came on at 3-0 down with Bale and CR7 running riot
Schweinsteiger and the hapless toni kroos were painfully unable to cope
All of a sudden a lightning fast break. Ronaldo to Bale, its on
Out of nowhere Martinez emerges closes bale down
instead of a shot on goal, the ball drifts harmlessly out into touch..

Sorry I can not have a counter attacking Brazil winning the world cup
I do not know how many teams will have the ability to prevent them winning though
THe Germans have some wonderful players but they do not seem like the Germans of old
THe one tough game in qualifying, Sweden at home, they dogged it letting in Zlatan after being 4-0 up.
I can't have argentina either
They are so ripe to be caught on the counter like 4 years ago, I would fear for them v Brazil or even Uruguay
France, Italy and the neverneverlands, I would not fancy them to beat Brazil
England, dear old bloody minded england
They will give it a good lash as usual but no

For me
Spain must have their revenge v Brazil
If the unthinkable happens and spain are eliminated before this game
then I will have to join the legions of numpties who claim the champions league is more important than the world cup
That really would be a reason to mourn the death of the importance of the world cup
By:
iprefertolay
When: 03 Jun 14 21:13
My money is on Spain £25 at coral, money back if Brazil or Argentina win it,get on!
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