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Granted a top class side but lemmings and cliffs spring to mind!!
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best spanish side of all time with no weaknesses packed with players who have won everything at club level and are also the european champions. worthy favs imo
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Lemmings and divs being Joe Average Punter?
Well if it wasn't the muppets we wouldn't make any money would we. |
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Considering no one's kicked a ball yet at that price Spain is a huge LAY.
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no weakness ha ha ha ha ha.try cant defend half of the game and dont rate keeper as high as some.best attacking 5 or 6 but no way 4/1 with there record in this and record does count in history of a world cup as proved on sportinglife preview
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Have to agree value to be had in laying Spain, as good as they can be 4s is just to short at this stage.
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how much hard earned are you guys backing this 1/4 good thing with?
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didnt say iam laying them just not backing at them odds should be double to get my interest.instead just backing who i do fancy and see as value
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Big Ern 10 Jun 10 16:58
best spanish side of all time with no weaknesses packed with players who have won everything at club level and are also the european champions. worthy favs imo If they had no weaknesses the USA wouldn't have stuffed them 2-0.I remember many raving about Argentina after a couple of impressive games in the last World Cup. The Muppets will never learn. |
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they are worthy favourites imo but 4/1 doesn't represent anything like value.
However there is far worse value than Spain 4/1 in the top few in the betting, England at 8/1 obviously. |
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correct me if im wrong but i fail to see how the fact that spain did not contest the 1930 world cup final has any bearing whatsoever on their chances this time round?
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not the 1930 world cup final justindaff.......we're talking any world cup final! oh and for what its worth they've only ever contested one semi final also!
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Have just done the BBC tracker and Spain's route once out of the groups screams lay to me - as much as I agree they are probably the best team at the moment.
I make them likely to face Portugal, Italy and Argentina to get to the final - all of those games in a one off knockout situation could be tricky.... |
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Spain look awesome, maybe not value at 4/1 but awesome all the same.
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awesome front 5 or 6 but thats only half the game rest of side average would be being kind.an awesome team is 1970 brazil 1 to 11.people who know nothing or very little throw this hype around trying to talk about what they think is a great team but plenty of fools out there i guess
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We'll see. Spain will do the talking.
If you want to look for fools look for those who think the likes of Germany and Italy won't qualify? |
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doesnt matter if spain win or not or whoever of the 32wins there is no great team in the world at moment you might find good and very good but defo not great when you see 1 to 11 who are all the best playing the best thats a great team wont see to many in a lifetime to be fair.yeh i think both will qual aswell when comes to world cup both generally bring best game wouldnt write either off
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Neely i agree,i think Germany will go well,they always do i suppose u could say,on paper the have a decent looking side,but games aretn won on paper!!!! Italy id be more concerned about,probably still scrape through though
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Defence is no worse than any other and better than most imo.Keepers are all top class,Midfield is strong in depth and full of class and the 2 strikers are as good as you can get.
Worthy favs,although given the unpredictablity of the Sport 4 is maybe a tad small,however they are the most likely winners imo. As for never winning it before,i dont see that as anything to do with it,and if anything it is likely to spur them on even more. |
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Dearth of quality international sides...spain are the stand out..but they will still need luck to win da thing bluds
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Brazil @6 is the bet of the tournament.
Come 10pm on 11th July you'll be wondering what madness made you doubt them  |
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Spain have not even contested a World Cup semi-final.
In the 1950 competition of thirteen teams Spain played in a final group of four and finished last of four with one point from three games: Uruguay 2-2 Spain; Brazil 6-1 Spain; Sweden 3-1 Spain. 4/1 for the present team is not good against Brazil; Argentina; Germany; Italy; Netherlands; England; Portugal, France. |
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Didnt even see that kinscem,i had just presumed when they'ed finished fourth that they'ed have been in a semi final! good spot m8
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I think Coral went 9/2 in the shops today.
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why the **** i didnt get on brazil at 8s ages ago i dont know im looking at loads of crazy stuff van persie is 2.56 to be top goalscorer for holland thats got to be worth a couple of quid although ill probably curse him and he'll get injured. Hope not as im a gooner :) I like the look of Brazil to reach the last 8 at 1.56 but i dont bet large stakes so not much use for me.
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someone can explain to me why torres and villa are considered the best strikers of the world, still their clubs couldnt finish higher than 7th or 3rd in their leagues? surely messi, ronaldo, rooney, drogba, milito, higuain, etoo, even anelka, not only have been more prolific this season, but even more effective in reaching higher targets with their clubs?
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I think they are considered amongthe top strikers in the world not the best 2. It's an important distinction.
Where you finish in the league isn't simply down to the strength of your strikers. I fail to see your point in all honesty |
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Pissed the euros and a worthy fav imo
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Don't care if they win just hope they go far and Villa bags a fair few goals.
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winning the euros is the worst form guide you could use for the world cup.spain = no chance.
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The price can't be value when to win it they are going to have to win multiple knockout games against teams featuring world class players.
If, for instance, Spain play Portugal 10 times they will win more often then Portugal due to being a stronger more reliable side imo, but on some occasions Ronaldo will do something fking ridiculous to beat them. Basically there is some element of luck involved to win a world cup with 10 or so teams featuring players that are capable of turning matches that the price is just not value. In the top 6-8 sides anyone can beat anyone on their lucky day... |
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Price a tad short,but they are the most likely winners.
Can anyone tell me why at this stage they will not win?? |
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buddeliea already been answered. See above.
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One word buddeliea...........BRAZIL!!!
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people question their record int the world cup but what was their record in the eurpoean championship before last time.
This is a great team and will take some beating , top players from barca and real who have won everything . The only nagging doubt is that the best teams do not always win , even when they won the euros they only beat Italy on penalties albeit they dominated from start to finish. U need luck to win these tournaments , will they get it ? |
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oh ok,so basically a few iffs and luck!!
Not exactly what i was after,but if thats the best reasons on offer. |
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Goretski,
Are Brazil more likely winners than spain?? Cant see it myself,what am i not seeing here?? |
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[b]Ruari 11 Jun 10 10:12
people question their record int the world cup but what was their record in the eurpoean championship before last time. Why are you people so ignorant? Spain had already won the European championship in 1964. Guess who won the World Cup in 66? Not Spain. Hopefully that trend will continue. This is a great team and will take some beating , top players from barca and real who have won everything . Same could have been said about many teams that failed to win the World Cup. Holland in 74. Brazil 82 and Argentina in 2006 to name just a few. Some people will never learn. The only nagging doubt is that the best teams do not always win , even when they won the euros they only beat Italy on penalties albeit they dominated from start to finish. U need luck to win these tournaments , will they get it ? [/b] You also need a winning mentality and self belief and be able to play under different conditions. Spain probably don't have any of these. |
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buddeliea 11 Jun 10 12:44
Goretski, Are Brazil more likely winners than spain?? Cant see it myself,what am i not seeing here?? Brazils past record for a start. Brazil 5 world cups to Spains 0.Brazilians self belief.Brazils winning mentality. Brazil the only team that has won outside of its own continent apart from Argentina and they were playing under similar conditions to what they are used too. |
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I really dont think past world cups will have any bearing on this years,and i certainly dont think Spain are short of belief and confidence.
Of course Brazil have a fair chance of winning,so do a few others,i just happen to think Spains chances are better,cos imo they have better players,and i defy anyone to prove to me otherwise!! |