World Cup
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Just your selections please guys, no rambling, just your selection.
Me:
Holland to win the World Cup
Me:
Holland to win the World Cup
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Spain
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Argentina at 10s
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lay england every match
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i wondered how along it would be before a pathetic anti england answer popped up.
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It is not a pathetic response to advise laying England. They are third in the betting, but not 3rd in FIIFA rankings, or in World Cup records. They are overbet and must be a lay for the outright win.
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My suggestion is two equal bets on Italy and Germany, both at about 14s.
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Germany at 13.5/1 and Italy at 14.5/1 ..... better than England at 6.8/1.
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Nigeria 180, not a terrible price for a team from Africa with a decent squad of players such as Taiwo, Yobo, Yakubu, Martins, Mikel
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England are good value....only lemmings would think otherwise.
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I am not a lemming. Very unkind words. I'm hurt.
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And I've watched eleven World Cups on television, all matches.
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Kinscem apart from a back to lay why do you fancy germany and italy?
The germans dont look anywhere near good enough to win a world cup. Italy havent improved since four years ago, theyve just got older with no superstars coming through. |
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History and value is your answer
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Laying England in the outrights.
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The Germans have a young experienced team (excluding Ballack and Klose). They prepare better than most, and they go there to win. They are searching for a goalscorer atm.
I know the Italians were poor in qualifying, but they are are a major power. Everyone is having orgasms about Spains, but you saw recently that in club competitions their classy midfield play can be nullified. In the 2006 World Cup they were also on one of their big unbeaten runs (25 games?), led France 1-0, then France put three past them and knocked them out. Ok, we all want to see a Brazil / Spain final but be realistic. England are a quarter-final team, last time they had no attack, this time they have no central defence (Ferdinand; Terry). And the attackers have fitness problems: Rooney; Lennon. If they get into July Lampard will be 32; Gerrard 30. Gerrard is not going to make an impact over seven games imo. Traditional semi-finalists Argentina; Brazil; Germany; Italy will be thereabouts as usual. Between them they have won 14 of 18 World Cups (Uruguay 2; England; France). People tip Spain; Chile; Netherlands; Serbia. Its better to take good prices about proven tournament teams. England's price is skewed by patriotic money and hope, not a realistic assessment of chances. I know the past World Cups is not present form. Some teams go in hope, some go expecting to win. |
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jair1970 29 Apr 20:19
History and value is your answer In that case then just back Brazil and Argentina as no europeans have won outside of europe. |
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In Spain in 1982 Italy drew their three group matches, and qualified above Cameroon, who had the same points and goal difference. Italy had scored more 2-2 against Cameroon 1-1.
Then Italy beat Brazil, Argentina, and West Germany, and won the World Cup. In USA in 1994 all four teams in the Italy group had the same points (4) and goal difference. Italy went throught on more goals scored, Norway went home. Italy got to the final (beating Spain on the way), and lost the final on a penalty shoot-out. They won it in 2006, beating Germany in the semi-final. Italy can play like a pub team, get throught their group, and progress where others fold on the big occasion. England 12 World Cups; 1 win; 1 semi-final; 6 quarter-finals; 1 round 2; 3 round 1. Brazil 7 finals; Italy 6; Germany 7; Argentina 4. = 24 of 36 finalists in the 18 World Cup finals. Of the 22 finalists starting at 1966 those four teams supplied 17 of 22 finalists (England 1966, France 1998; 2006, Netherlands 1974;1978 are the other 5 finalists since 1966). |
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Anyone who says any of those four teams is going to the World Cup without a chance might be right. I prefer to back them.
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All you are telling me is history, nothing about the current team?
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Thats how I pick horses. Form.
We will see in July if it is Serbia; England; Spain; Ivory Coast in the semis. |
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Theres no substance to your analysis. Its not relevant form if Italy won the world cup in 1982 and made the final in 1994 Rossi and baggio wont be playing. You are backing teams purely on previous world cups not current form or players! If they played 11 italian postmen would you still back them?
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Great post Rampage! lucky you did that because I was just about to back Uraguay!!
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You dismiss my analysis. Ha. Come on the postmen.
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FIFA rankings 28/04/10
1 Brazil 1611 2 Spain 1565 3 Portugal 1249 4 Netherlands 1221 5 Italy 1184 6 Germany 1107 7 Argentina 1084 8 England 1068 9 Croatia 1052 10 France 1044 |
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According to the FIFA ratings ,Portugal are the value bet
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portugal :^0
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and argentina a big lay then
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You would be NUTS not to back BRAZIL.
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kincsem - That might be the biggest load of rubbish ive ever read on the betfair forum.
Englands price is skewed because of patriotism?....why havent bookies offshore got England at bigger prices then? And that stuff about "world cup form"....really, the mental health act of 1983 springs to mind...get help mate. |
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kincsem 29 Apr 20:37
The Germans have a young experienced team (excluding Ballack and Klose). They prepare better than most, and they go there to win. They are searching for a goalscorer atm. I know the Italians were poor in qualifying, but they are are a major power. Everyone is having orgasms about Spains, but you saw recently that in club competitions their classy midfield play can be nullified. In the 2006 World Cup they were also on one of their big unbeaten runs (25 games?), led France 1-0, then France put three past them and knocked them out. Ok, we all want to see a Brazil / Spain final but be realistic. England are a quarter-final team, last time they had no attack, this time they have no central defence (Ferdinand; Terry). And the attackers have fitness problems: Rooney; Lennon. If they get into July Lampard will be 32; Gerrard 30. Gerrard is not going to make an impact over seven games imo. Traditional semi-finalists Argentina; Brazil; Germany; Italy will be thereabouts as usual. Between them they have won 14 of 18 World Cups (Uruguay 2; England; France). People tip Spain; Chile; Netherlands; Serbia. Its better to take good prices about proven tournament teams. England's price is skewed by patriotic money and hope, not a realistic assessment of chances. utter bullshyte./.. look at books all over the world for me and then tell me if betfair is still the best price out there... if its not you wont find anyone offering much bigger. its not just about patriotic money because if it was odds all over the world would mirror the difference.. england have a decent squad and team with a top class, world class even, manager who will make sure everything is right on the day for the team he selects. im not saying england will win or are really a backable price but you have to be stupid to say its patriotic money keeping the price down. and before everyone says that other teams are miles better 'value' and then name about six others.. who are these teams scheduled to play in the world cup draw? |
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holland and portugal for me even if niether wins it they will be entertaining to watch
also having bets on england each game and restaking winnings till semis if they make it that far |
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Lay England to get out of their group.
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Spain to win easy peasy!!!
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fifa rankings mean jack sh!t...
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Spain v Brazil World Cup Final.
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lol ^
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Lay fav of every match.
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Lay England we have got no chance.
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BRAZIL ARGENTINA final
18.5 |