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The Gambler 18 29 Apr 18:04
Nigeria 180, not a terrible price for a team from Africa with a decent squad of players such as Taiwo, Yobo, Yakubu, Martins, Mikel Are you joking did you see them in the African cup, will be lucky to get out of the group stage - truly awful team |
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Lay South Africa in the opening game vs Mexico.
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i agreee totally with kinscem, myself will be backing Germany, Italy and Argentina split total bet on each
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^ are you sure. :| Subsequent posters have proved I'm mentally deranged. ;)
Anyway, it's the greatest free show on earth and I'm going to enjoy every minute. |
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brazil
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i thought it was just a one word answer?
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the 50,000 hookers comin to town
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The best bet has to be Slovakia to beat New Zealand in the group match. Yes I know it's only 8/15, but I've got it priced up at 1/3, so a value bet IMO.
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At club level, the UEFA rankings are quite accurate. You can succesfully predict UEFA/Euro cup matches based on those rankings.
If you take this (ranking) logic further, the value bets ought to be Portugal and Holland. Especially Holland with a few 'form' players in Ch League final (Robben , Sneijder..). |
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South Korea 7/2 to defeat Nigeria.
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SPAIN WILL WIN
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argies and brazil.bet south american winner 5/2ish a money printer
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SPAIN WILL NOT WIN
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South Korea to beat Nigeria bet of the tournament?????
Its the last group game you fool one team could just need a point to go through and park the bus in front of goal. |
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World Cup / Top Goalscorer 2010 Lionel Messi Back 10233597574 28-Feb-10
23:15 27 The man is a genius! |
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just lay england every match
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Think Germany are very big price at 14s, good ew bet.
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Spain 4/9 to beat Switzerland.
Brazil to beat N Korea. Whatever the odds are! |
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south korea to beat greece
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Laying England, obviously.
Not every day you get to lay a 16s chance at 7s. Thanks mugs ;) |
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Englands a 16s chance?
Another lemming...ready to fall off the cliff. |
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Back Serbia and lay off when get through group and next round
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Very interesting stuff, Kincsem. I approach it in a similar way.
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ace high your thr leeming if u think england can win it
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Serbia
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argentina, england and spain to win their groups, 2.52! lump and bump!
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Lay Spain all the way from Quarter finals onwards, sure to qualify for quarters.Chile, Switzerland and Honduras shouldn't provide too much of a test, and the available 5.3 should be shaved to 3.5.
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ace high your thr leeming if u think england can win it
Im afraid you are the lemming. One of the dullards who repeat the same mantra again and again when it comes to England..."no chance", "bottlers", "should be 50/1", "patriotic money"..yadda yadda. If you take an objective look at it, England are worthy of being in the top 4 in the betting, regardless of whether they end up winning it or not. |
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i think u live on a different planet
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OK - let's take an 'objective' look at England's chances.
Firstly, let's analyse the group from which they obtained qualification. It was total pants. The only conceivable danger played most of their important matches without their two best players, both injured by disgusting tackles in our kick-and-rush league. It may also be worthwhile to take an 'objective' look at our likely team. In goal, we have...well, who do we have? We don't know, really. What we do know is that whoever is in goal, they are not very good. James, Green, whoever, they are so far short of world-class it is laughable. Our likely right-back simply does not carry out even the most basic defensive tasks to Championship standards. Our two first choice centre-backs are a crock and a carthorse. Our back-up centre-backs are so rancid that Ledley King, the crock of all crocks, may go to the World Cup. Our left-back is a decent player, admittedly, but he's not fit. Our second choice left-back will be in America trying to get into Kim Kardashian's knickers when the tournament kicks off, leaving us the splendid choice of Leighton Baines or Stephen Warnock should Cole not make it, or suffer any recurrence of his injury. So, as a 7/1 chance, our midfield must be good. Except of course, that it isn't. It is likely that our two central midfielders will be Gareth Barry and Frank Lampard. Both would be beaten in a sprint by Douglas Bader, and were overrun to the point of embarrassment by Egypt last time out. Then of course we have the great Steven Gerrard, who has had two good games for England in ten years and over seventy bad ones. We do have a decent right-winger, but he has hardly played all season, and still hasn't had the operation that his chronic groin injury requires, and is thus susceptible to further problems at the World Cup. All the back-up midfield players likely to be selected by Capello are sadly even worse than the rubbish he will put on the pitch as first choices. We do however have two top-rate centre-forwards. Unfortunately, only one of them will be picked, and Capello will stink out the entire tournament by picking Peter Crouch or Emile Heskey to partner him. Add the usual tiredness after a long-season, our history of missing every vital penalty we've ever taken, and our record of one major semi-final in forty-four years and what do you have? A country kidding itself, and a layer's dream. |
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OK - let's take an 'objective' look at England's chances.
Firstly, let's analyse the group from which they obtained qualification. It was total pants. The only conceivable danger played most of their important matches without their two best players, both injured by disgusting tackles in our kick-and-rush league. It may also be worthwhile to take an 'objective' look at our likely team. In goal, we have...well, who do we have? We don't know, really. What we do know is that whoever is in goal, they are not very good. James, Green, whoever, they are so far short of world-class it is laughable. Our likely right-back simply does not carry out even the most basic defensive tasks to Championship standards. Our two first choice centre-backs are a crock and a carthorse. Our back-up centre-backs are so rancid that Ledley King, the crock of all crocks, may go to the World Cup. Our left-back is a decent player, admittedly, but he's not fit. Our second choice left-back will be on a beach in America when the tournament kicks off, leaving us the splendid choice of Leighton Baines or Stephen Warnock should Cole not make it, or suffer any recurrence of his injury. So, as a 7/1 chance, our midfield must be good. Except of course, that it isn't. It is likely that our two central midfielders will be Gareth Barry and Frank Lampard. Both would be beaten in a sprint by Douglas Bader, and were overrun to the point of embarrassment by Egypt last time out. Then of course we have the great Steven Gerrard, who has had two good games for England in ten years and over seventy bad ones. We do have a decent right-winger, but he has hardly played all season, and still hasn't had the operation that his chronic groin injury requires, and is thus susceptible to further problems at the World Cup. All the back-up midfield players likely to be selected by Capello are sadly even worse than the rubbish he will put on the pitch as first choices. We do however have two top-rate centre-forwards. Unfortunately, only one of them will be picked, and Capello will stink out the entire tournament by picking Peter Crouch or Emile Heskey to partner him. Add the usual tiredness after a long-season, our history of missing every vital penalty we've ever taken, and our record of one major semi-final in forty-four years and what do you have? A country kidding itself, and a layer's dream. |
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OK - let's take an objective look at England's chances.
Firstly, let's analyse the group from which they obtained qualification. It was total pants. The only conceivable danger played most of their important matches without their two best players, both injured by disgusting tackles in our kick-and-rush league. It may also be worthwhile to take an objective look at our likely team. In goal, we have...well, who do we have? We don't know, really. What we do know is that whoever is in goal, they are not very good. James, Green, whoever, they are so far short of world-class it is laughable. Our likely right-back simply does not carry out even the most basic defensive tasks to Championship standards. Our two first choice centre-backs are a crock and a carthorse. Our back-up centre-backs are so rancid that Ledley King, the crock of all crocks, may go to the World Cup. Our left-back is a decent player, admittedly, but he's not fit. Our second choice left-back will be on a beach in America when the tournament kicks off, leaving us the splendid choice of Leighton Baines or Stephen Warnock should Cole not make it, or suffer any recurrence of his injury. So, as a 7/1 chance, our midfield must be good. Except of course, that it isn't. It is likely that our two central midfielders will be Gareth Barry and Frank Lampard. Both would be beaten in a sprint by Douglas Bader, and were overrun to the point of embarrassment by Egypt last time out. Then of course we have the great Steven Gerrard, who has had two good games for England in ten years and over seventy bad ones. We do have a decent right-winger, but he has hardly played all season, and still hasn't had the operation that his chronic groin injury requires, and is thus susceptible to further problems at the World Cup. All the back-up midfield players likely to be selected by Capello are sadly even worse than the rubbish he will put on the pitch as first choices. We do however have two top-rate centre-forwards. Unfortunately, only one of them will be picked, and Capello will stink out the entire tournament by picking Peter Crouch or Emile Heskey to partner him. Add the usual tiredness after a long-season, our history of missing every vital penalty we've ever taken, and our record of one major semi-final in forty-four years and what do you have? A country kidding itself, and a layer's dream. |
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OK - let's take an objective look at England's chances.
Firstly, let's analyse the group from which they obtained qualification. It was total pants. The only conceivable danger played most of their important matches without their two best players, both injured by disgusting tackles in our kick-and-rush league. It may also be worthwhile to take an objective look at our likely team. In goal, we have...well, who do we have? We don't know, really. What we do know is that whoever is in goal, they are not very good. James, Green, whoever, they are so far short of world-class it is laughable. Our likely right-back simply does not carry out even the most basic defensive tasks to Championship standards. Our two first choice centre-backs are a crock and a carthorse. Our back-up centre-backs are so rancid that Ledley King, the crock of all crocks, may go to the World Cup. Our left-back is a decent player, admittedly, but he's not fit. Our second choice left-back will be on a beach in America when the tournament kicks off, leaving us the splendid choice of Leighton Baines or Stephen Warnock should Cole not make it, or suffer any recurrence of his injury. So, as a 7/1 chance, our midfield must be good. Except of course, that it isn't. It is likely that our two central midfielders will be Gareth Barry and Frank Lampard. Both would be beaten in a sprint by Douglas Bader, and were overrun to the point of embarrassment by Egypt last time out. Then of course we have the great Stevie Me, who has had two good games for England in ten years and over seventy bad ones. We do have a decent right-winger, but he has hardly played all season, and still hasn't had the operation that his chronic groin injury requires, and is thus susceptible to further problems at the World Cup. All the back-up midfield players likely to be selected by Capello are sadly even worse than the rubbish he will put on the pitch as first choices. We do however have two top-rate centre-forwards. Unfortunately, only one of them will be picked, and Capello will stink out the entire tournament by picking Peter Crouch or Emile Heskey to partner him. Add the usual tiredness after a long-season, our history of missing every vital penalty we've ever taken, and our record of one major semi-final in forty-four years and what do you have? A country kidding itself, and a layer's dream. |
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sorry about the quadruple posting. Dunno what happened there.
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utter garbage of course.. typical england knocking.. qualify in a superb fashion after the mclaren debacle (two losses against essentially the same team and outplayed in both games) and is because the group is easy.. blah blah blah
england arent the best team in the world by any means but your simplistic attitude and reasoning means nothing.. no doubt you will say were only 7s because of patriotic money as well :) please do and make me laugh even more. englands midfield (potentially) of lennon (fit again) barry lampard and gerrard (unfortunately) or milner (hopefully) matches up well enough and has enough variety to trouble all midfields.. it wont overrun spain or brazil with their passing and technique your right but against anyone else (especially if cole and johnson are burnign up the wings from left and right back) they will be more than enough. there is goals in it and more than enough pace where it counts the most even if gerrard is cutting in from the left and havign pot shots which is all he can do. and whether crouch or heskey or carlton cole or whoever up front they have all prved that they can play with rooney and leave him to it, and he has proved on all fronts, domestic, champs league and for england, he is up to scoring goals.. |
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england are RIGHTLY third favs in the betting all over the world. not just with UK books. this is down to the potential squad, havign oneo f the worlds great players in great form up front, a world class manager taking charge, a fairly easy draw to the semi finals... numerous reasons..
i would be shocked if england didnt reach the semis.. and england would beat germany if they finished second as well. poor team on paper and on the pitch. |
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morrissey, you're right about Rooney, but do you truly believe a midfield with milner barry and lampard in it matches up well against the best teams in the world? Truly?
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does it really have to
did any of the greeks team by defence, mid, forwards match up seriously,.. did any of the italians depts match up on paper? nope and nope... its about how the collective plays and none of those itialians or greeks are the best in their positions either... i just think its easy to knock england, name the last time an england team was turned over in a bad way by ANYONE in any tournament. you will have to really think because it doesnt happen. even when brazil beat us a few years ago we were unlucky not to go in at half time 1-0 up and we were far from humiliated. semi finals with some ease i think and then we have a chance.. if ppl dont think so then they really dont understand football, knock out football and betting.. and im not having a dig at yuo personally. |
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You are right of course, we rarely get turned over badly. We just get beaten, over and over and over again, because we do not pick the right players, and because we do not know how to keep the ball.
Anyway, good luck with your bets. |
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ill reverse your question..
do you really think the greeks or italians overpowered ppl with possession? great technique and 60%+ ball ownership like some teams might? i just think ppl look too deep into it and look too far back. look at what is in front of you and how they qualified and we had players missing and injured in qualifying.. look at the draw, really really do you think england wont win the the group and then really do you not think england wont go through the next two games fairly comfortably.. the aussies are ok but nothing special and then is it second in group a or even first.either way we shuoldnt be worried and will be decent favs for both games.. imo and i shall check thr draw prop at some point.. we are about the right price.. we dont need to win every game and the aussies could be harder than the game after imo.. if brazil and spain were in the same side of the draw id honestly think we were slightly overpriced.. |