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29 Mar 10
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How can they be 9/2 and England 6/1?
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how can spain be 9/2 full stop...loads of burnt fingers await there imminent failure
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worse price i have seen for a world cup since scotland at 9/2 to win it
at argentina 78 |
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Not when you consider that Brazil were 5/2 for 2006.
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Why is it a terrible price? Only a handful of teams can win it, and Spain at the moment have by far the best squad, very strong in every position.
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Was scotland really 9/2 to win the world cup? I would have layed that all day on betfair.92/1 would be more like it.
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5/2 for Brazil isn't that bad. When you consider they have won 5 out of the last 13.How many have Spain won. 0 out of 18. Obviously it's not as straight forward as this, but this is a big factor.Even England are in front of Spain.It's been proven time and time again over the last 80 years only a handful of teams have the ability to win it.This year may be different, but I doubt it.
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Scotland were as short as 11/4 in places that year.
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Spain have never won the world cup but they have a better team than they ever have, I don't read too much into past world cups. At the end of the day if the team is good enough they will win.
What you have got to ask yourself is that, is there a better team in the world than Spain that are going to the world cup? At the moment imo there is not. |
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What a ludicrous argument. ^^^^^^
Once you get to the knockout stage, anyone of 8 teams or more could easily beat them on their day in a one off match. "Massive Value" PMSL. Delighted there are people who think like this on here though :D |
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john, i take it uve now looked at the other thread and seen my reasons
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I'm happy to lay Spain and Brazil. It's a knock-out tournament, luck is needed to win. As such, both are priced too short. Argentina were far and away the best team in 2006 and look what happened to them - dumped out in the qfs.
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I admit I went OTT with massive value, but I can't see how you can argue with my point.
At the end of the day, Spain are the best team in the world at the moment and won ALL their qualifying games in impressive style, current European Champions, strong in every position and considering only a handful of teams can win it then 9/2 is a very fair price imo. It seems to me like a few mugs like chop on here are thinking about betting teams and hoping for the best. |
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Spain should be 5/2
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see clarky knows :D
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That's right, I'm a mug LOL, complete mystery how I make a profit from football betting and poker every single year, isn't it ?:|
(here's a clue, it doesn't involve backing 9/2 favourites in football cup competitions ;) ) |
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Clarky and big bucks. Form is not enough. Time and again Spain have proved they are not good enough. Might do it this time, but they are not a good price.As some one has already said don't forget Argentina in the last world Cup and also Holland in 74.Probably the best team, but didn't win.
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Yeah but sunset, Spain have never had such a good team as they do now, its alright saying they time and again they have proved they can't win it but to me that is just a fairly meaningless stat, u could have said the same about France before '98.
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if the world cup was in spain this year 9/2 would be a terrible price.
the fact that it is in some south african jungle somewhere makes the price incredible. |
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Big bucks there is a big difference with France. They had home advantage. Time and again this has proved to be decisive. You only have to look at the past results.There our only 5 teams that have ever won this with out home advantage.And 1 of them hasn't qualified.Spain could win , but I make them a 14/1 chance.Imo there is a 90% chance that the winner will come from these 4 teams. Brazil,Italy, Germany or Argentina will win.
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Spain probably do have their best ever team, but this was said about Argentina 4 years ago. People have short memory's.Also Holland had their best ever team in 74, but they didn't win they lost to the Germans.Also in 2002 there was many saying the German team wasn't good enough, but they nearly won it.
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Spain will need to come through Brazil to get to the last 4 will they not?
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Sunset 14/1, really? How much can I have on?
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I won't be laying it at that price. I will be laying it as low as possible . As long as I can get matched.
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To say Spain should be 14/1 just goes to show how much you know about the game.
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Well I might be proved wrong. All will be revealed in a couple of months.
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Whether they win it or not to say they should be 14/1 is stupid. So you are wrong already.
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Big Bucks John 31 Mar 21:22
Whether they win it or not to say they should be 14/1 is stupid. So you are wrong already i dont want to discuss wheter they shud be 3/1 or 14/1. but the argument you use is too simple, bordering stupidity. so according to you you cant never say things like: "i think house prices will drop 5-10% from here" " sterling shud be stronger against the euro" " fancy apple share to hit 300 dlrs this yr" because in all the cases case, house prices, sterling or the stocks are all at the right price, ie 100% of current price. same goes for commenting on prices of shoes, groceries and anything else. rethink what you wanted to say exactly and retype, plse. |
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WTF johnnie?
Spain are not 14/1 shots, what has all that other sh1t got to do with it? LOL! |
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Big bucks there is a big difference with France. They had home advantage. Time and again this has proved to be decisive. You only have to look at the past results.There our only 5 teams that have ever won this with out home advantage.And 1 of them hasn't qualified.Spain could win , but I make them a 14/1 chance.Imo there is a 90% chance that the winner will come from these 4 teams. Brazil,Italy, Germany or Argentina will win
90% those four + 6.67% Argentina. Holy Cow, what price the rest? |
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FWIW I think Spain are the biggest lay of the whole tournament, closely followed by Brazil. I think we may well see our first big shock of the modern WC era.
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I think I should revise my odds a little. Spain 10/1 amd 85% chance the winners comes from Brazil,Italy,Germany,Argentina.
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BBJ what price do you think Spain should be and Why?
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About what? there are none sunset, because they are an excellent football team with strength in every position, won ALL their qualifying games.
They also went an incredible world record 35 games in a 3 year spell winning 32 matches and drawing the other 3, only once conceding more than one goal in a game against Greece in a friendly. In this period they scored 73 goals an conceded 11. They also hold the world record for consecutive wins (15). I'm starting to think their current odds are generous. |
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If Spain are such a good team why did the USA beat them in the confederations cup?Spain will probably have a good run in the World Cup. Might even get to the finals, but I still think the odds of the winning it are against them. Don't forget France were considered to be a so called good thing in 2002.When Spain set these World records for consecutive wins did they actually beat any one that was any good?
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If the World Cup was in Spain or Europe I would say Spain should be second favorites.England are ridiculously short. I think we both agree on that.
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The difference this time is that Spain won the Euros. Previously you could see that they didn't have the belief. This time they do. I would price them at 5/2-3/1 as they are the best team by far and if it was a league I would have them at evens. 9/2 is a good price.
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I really don't know how USA managed to beat Spain, I guess they are entitled to an off day though, I don't think it is a competition that is taken too seriously.
I just personally think this Spanish team at the moment is the best of my generation and in a way I hope they win the world cup (barring miracles of England winning it) because they deserve it and are a joy to watch. |
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I`m with Bayes on this one, could see there being a really big surprise too. Serbia anybody?
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Can't see a suprise but I guess someone like Serbia or Chile if it were to happen.
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