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By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 15:09

Jun 4, 2026 -- 3:08PM, Des Pond wrote:


I don't think we'll ever get back to actual live coverage like we had 50 years ago, sadly, but there's no need for the deliberate built-in delays on terrestrial telly. I suppose it's to allow a delay for bad language or other unscheduled rudeness. Still annoys me though.


Terrestial tv was great. Close to live pictures for lots of sport. 2 decades later and delays increased exponentially Laugh

By:
Des Pond
When: 04 Jun 26 15:11
I'm old enough to remember Erica Roe. They wouldn't let that happen now, or at least you wouldn't get to see it. Laugh
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:15
Remember reading this on courtsiding a few years ago

"The courtsiders always are a few seconds ahead of the scoreboard, they get privileged information," he said.

"If the ball goes high up and it is obvious it will land out of the limits of the courts, the point cannot be put on the scoreboard but the courtsider will send the result before it is made official."

To find those courtsiders, the FFT have several people walking through the stands to detect any suspicious activity.

"A courtsider does not watch the match the same way any other spectator does. They do not react to the points, and they often have a device they use to transmit the results," said Lhospitalier, who added some courtsiders also used wires connected to the inside of their shoes to avoid being detected.

"They tap with their left or right foot depending on who scores the point," he detailed.


Every year, Lhospitalier's team kick out about 30 courtsiders from Roland Garros
.

BLACK LIST

Lhospitalier declined to disclose how many people are hired to identify the courtsiders as he wants the number to stay confidential to avoid the illegal gamblers to adjust.

The FFT's work starts before the matches, however, with another team looking at online betting sites to 'check the odds' and detect anything suspicious.

"It helps us target some matches and put more resources on one specific court," said Lhospitalier, who is also helped by France's gaming police, the Tennis Integrity Unit and Macolin, a European platform fighting against manipulation of sports competitions.

"We also go through the deep (invisible) web to check the odds on the dark market," he said.
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 15:17
It's annoying because with streaming it can be done without delay, I remember I think it was 2006 Olympics which had minimal delays of TV's online platforms, but that did not last long and online viewing from tv companies has not been a good option since.
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 15:19
my favorite is when this courtsider sat with a laptop hidden under a blanket. Guards noticed something suspicious and accused him of being a perv who j e r k e d off while watching women's tennis. He accepted the fine for that as it was much smaller than he would have got for courtsiding.
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 15:20
According to legend, once at the Australian Open, a courtsider at a women’s match was tapping his phone underneath a towel in his lap. Security approached him with a more disturbing type of disdain than usual: Several spectators had suspected him of masturbating to the players on court.

“Enjoy getting your rocks off to women’s tennis, huh?” the security guard said. Somewhat bafflingly, the man thought it would be as bad to admit to courtsiding, so he accepted the charge, paid a $560 fine, and was given a 24-hour ban from the grounds. In the end, being an admitted public masturbator resulted in a far shorter ban than being an admitted courtsider, which would have kept him out for the rest of the tournament.
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 15:21
https://longreads.com/2018/09/03/losers-lunch/
By:
Des Pond
When: 04 Jun 26 15:23
If I'm having a trade, I'll listen on AM/MW while watching the delayed pics. It spoils the experience to an extent, but it's the nearest I can get to apprehending the actual event in real time. But streams and internet radio are useless unless you're just listening for pleasure.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:23
Surely for reputational reasons you'd take the courtsiding charge , how could he be content to be known publicly as someone that does that insteadLaugh
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 15:25

Jun 4, 2026 -- 3:20PM, TheCarambaExperience wrote:


According to legend, once at the Australian Open, a courtsider at a women’s match was tapping his phone underneath a towel in his lap. Security approached him with a more disturbing type of disdain than usual: Several spectators had suspected him of masturbating to the players on court.“Enjoy getting your rocks off to women’s tennis, huh?” the security guard said. Somewhat bafflingly, the man thought it would be as bad to admit to courtsiding, so he accepted the charge, paid a $560 fine, and was given a 24-hour ban from the grounds. In the end, being an admitted public masturbator resulted in a far shorter ban than being an admitted courtsider, which would have kept him out for the rest of the tournament.


24 hour fine only Laugh

By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 15:25
Born in 2007 LaughCry
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:29
I once had a strange experience of watching an Arsenal match on Sky at home I think around 2004 as we were closing in on the league, we were attacking in the game but our next door neighbours, with all their windows wide open, made a sudden explosion of cheering noises ..as Arsenal scored, fk knows how they were getting faster pics but it ruined the moment even though we went aheadLaugh very strange to watch what you thought were live pics, but actually know a goal had already gone in and you're just waiting for it to happen, you end up passively cheering, as if you were watching MOTD already knowing the result.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:31
I think it's fair to say, Marta froze today on the big occasion.
By:
Des Pond
When: 04 Jun 26 15:37
I backed Andreeva with a fairly modest stake because it had a sort of Sod's Law inevitability to it because of the political situation. Should've had a more substantial bet in hindsight, but still.
By:
Des Pond
When: 04 Jun 26 15:41
Haven't got a clue about the next match, but a small back of Chwalinkska for fun.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:42
We're looking at the realistic possibility of an all Russian final, the first in a slam final since the invasion.
By:
tobiasr
When: 04 Jun 26 15:45
yes mes. kostuk like a rabbit in the headlights. spent too much energy on politics although you cant in any way blame her for that.
By:
tobiasr
When: 04 Jun 26 15:47
shnaider should win of course, but how many times has a player swung freely in a match they werent supposed to win, won, and then played the next match that they were supposed to win, tightened up, and lost. chwalinska has been playing with house money since the first round really having come through qualifying
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 15:50

Jun 4, 2026 -- 3:37PM, Des Pond wrote:


I backed Andreeva with a fairly modest stake because it had a sort of Sod's Law inevitability to it because of the political situation. Should've had a more substantial bet in hindsight, but still.


Nice bet. 1.7x Kostyuk was somewhat suprising

By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:51
'Two sporting legends here'

As everyone wonders who these two people are Laugh

Never seen or heard of the female Cyclist before
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:53
Kostyuk did have a 2-0 h2h over Mirra and that was recent and current tbf with one being on clay
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 15:53
Garcia never recovered after Andy Murray bigged her up
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:02
Both lefties today

Chwalinska is 31 / 12 against lefties at all levels, (17 / 10 on clay)
Shnaider is 19 / 14 at all levels,  (9 / 6 on clay)
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:03
The reality is as much as I rate Shnaider, she didn't so much beat Saba, saba lost it, the same way Sinner didn't lose to fake Cerundolo, Sinner lost it, one because of the heat, the other because of the wind.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:04
the same way Cerundolo didn't beat Sinner*
By:
tobiasr
When: 04 Jun 26 16:12
yep saba beat herself in a remarkable collapse that was almost unremarkable bearing in mind her previous
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 16:15
Shnaiders forehand was on fire for large parts, which I think contributed to the Saba collapse.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:22
When was the last time current doubles partners ended up facing each in a slam final? which is what could happen with
Mirra/Shanider? if it's ever happened before.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 16:22
There's a sprinkle of Su-Wei Hsieh about Maja.
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 16:26

Jun 4, 2026 -- 4:22PM, mesmerised wrote:


When was the last time current doubles partners ended up facing each in a slam final? which is what could happen with Mirra/Shanider? if it's ever happened before.


gotta be Serena vs Venus?

By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:29
probably,
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:30

Jun 4, 2026 -- 4:22PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


There's a sprinkle of Su-Wei Hsieh about Maja.


Is that 'not even Su-Wei-Hsieh knows what Su-Wei-Hsieh is going to do next'

By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 16:30

Jun 4, 2026 -- 4:26PM, TheCarambaExperience wrote:


Jun  4, 2026 --  4:22PM, mesmerised wrote:When was the last time current doubles partners ended up facing each in a slam final? which is what could happen with Mirra/Shanider? if it's ever happened before.gotta be Serena vs Venus?


yeah Wimbledon 2008.

By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 16:32
it's a Russian song so that might be a problem, but if not for that they should do this chant/song for Chwalinska.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinka_(1860_song)
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 16:36
how do go from this:
04-May-2026    W75 Saint-Gaudens    Clay    QF    113    180    Jessika Ponchet [FRA] d. Chwalinska    4-6 6-3 6-2

to being in a winning position at a Slam semi one month later?
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:40
Maybe she was just tired of travelling the world staying in Air B&B's, will be dining out in 5 star hotels after this.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:42
It's the sort of completely random run to a semi that you would never even put counterfeit money in, like with Boisson last year, it does literally make no sense to go from that to beating top 20 calibre players match after match
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 04 Jun 26 16:48
Women's at RG often gives us one of these random semifinalists. I remember 2020 had Zidansek. That SF line-up just as random as the one this year. It had a Iga, but she was unknown before that run.
By:
mesmerised
When: 04 Jun 26 16:50
you mean 2021, Iga won the French in 2020
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 04 Jun 26 16:51
Andreeva 1.4x busto ! (Erika)
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