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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:06

"just 2 more things" lol

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mesmerised When: 11 Sep 17 00:07

Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:01AM, edy wrote:

Sloane is far too black to score with large swathes of the US population. She'll need to put up about 10-15 slams before she sees some respect from them.

there is probably an element of truth in this, as much as the William's have won, if they were blonde and white they'd be a lot more poplular.

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caramba When: 11 Sep 17 00:07

There's such a backstory to both the Williams sisters and Sharapova, two black sisters making it in a white sport and a Russian making the trip from Siberia to Florida at the age of 7 to make it in tennis, which helps a lot. This in compbination with them having captivating personalities on top of that makes them big stars.

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:08

LOL she's making him answer more stuff now to make sure she gets her air time in.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:08

Nadal has more US Open's than Djokovic.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:08

The US ceremony is always awful. They haven't done the bragging about the money bit and sponsor brag which always comes across terribly.

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edy When: 11 Sep 17 00:09

Probably because the victor of the US Open series isn't there tonight.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:09

Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:07AM, caramba wrote:

There's such a backstory to both the Williams sisters and Sharapova, two black sisters making it in a white sport and a Russian making the trip from Siberia to Florida at the age of 7 to make it in tennis, which helps a lot. This in compbination with them having captivating personalities on top of that makes them big stars.

They did also come at a time when simply tennis was a bigger deal though. The reality is tennis has been dwindling for years in the US even with Serena.

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mesmerised When: 11 Sep 17 00:10

These American hosts are always the worst at the slams, they always seem like they're away with the fairies.

Though in Australia, the speach by the Kia sponsors after the match is the longest speech made in sports post event, remember Novak/Nadal on the verge of collapse one year because they wouldn't stop yapping.

Sue Barker does it well, concise, to the point and relatively short.

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edy When: 11 Sep 17 00:10

shrink the US Open series and make sure it finishes before the NFL starts.

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caramba When: 11 Sep 17 00:12

I forgot to post this for this event, ten years ago this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRb784scZxQ

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mesmerised When: 11 Sep 17 00:13

Nobody outside of the US really gives much of a s*** about NFL, it's popular in pockets, but it's not really massive anywhere else, it sells out Wembley because of the sheer number of tourists and American's there.

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edy When: 11 Sep 17 00:13

Tio Toni crying in the locker room.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:13

The 1980 and 1981 tournaments claimed the highest household TV ratings to date, with 5.8% of all U.S. households tuning in per telecast. In comparison, the 1999 U.S. Open telecasts drew just 3.5% of all U.S. households. By 2007, the average rating had decreased to 1.7%.

Reckon this is down to close to 1% by now.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:13

Tennis declined has tied in with stuff like NFL's rise.

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caramba When: 11 Sep 17 00:13

will never not laugh at competitive Rafa in this.

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tof When: 11 Sep 17 00:14

Rafa don't shpeak about the hurricanes people ... you numpty

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edy When: 11 Sep 17 00:14

maybe so, mes, but in a discussion about tennis' decline in popularity in the US it might be a good idea to avoid having your finals on opening weekend of the NFL.

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mesmerised When: 11 Sep 17 00:14

Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:13AM, n88uk wrote:

Tennis declined has tied in with stuff like NFL's rise.

yeah so has American Heavyweight boxing, boxing in gerenal.

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tof When: 11 Sep 17 00:14

Sep 10, 2017 -- 11:40PM, n88uk wrote:

Vika will be way underplayed unless she plays this year by Australia.

Vikas a slut !!

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:15

Especially that article I quoted was written in 2008. So is talking up to 2007.

But eg. this suggests tennis has declined a whole lot more since 2007.

Kerber’s three-set win ranks as the lowest rated U.S. Open final ever and is the least-watched since at least 2000. The previous lows were a 1.1 for multiple matches and 1.6 million for last year’s women’s final.

No U.S. Open women’s final has managed a 2.0 rating sans Serena Williams since 2007, when Justine Henin‘s win over ‎Svetlana Kuznetsova had a 2.1. Each final involving Serena or her sister Venus Williams has posted at least a 2.9.

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:16

Kerber three-set win was against Serena..

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tof When: 11 Sep 17 00:16

only $ 3.7 mill not a Mayweather feeling no ?

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:16

oh no it wasn't, nvm. it was against Pliskova.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:17

Yer USO lol.

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:17

Sloane v Madison did good ratings for 2017. I'm sure of it.

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:17

(for tennis in 2017)

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:17

I mean obv that would bomb. How on earth did it draw less viewers than Vinci vs Pennetta though lol? Was it simply because people tuned into the latter because they'd read about Serena doing the grand slam and then realised Serena was out lol.

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mesmerised When: 11 Sep 17 00:18

A lot of Italian-Americans over there

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caramba When: 11 Sep 17 00:18

I don't like tennis clashing with start of NFL, but US summer season is already short as it is.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:18

Yer it did. 1.9 is a good rating for 2017 without Serena or someone.

Eg. Novak vs Stan only did a 1.1 last year.

I doubt Nadal-Anderson does a 1.9 today.

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caramba When: 11 Sep 17 00:19

Guidos are into tennis?

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:19

Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:18AM, caramba wrote:

I don't like tennis clashing with start of NFL, but US summer season is already short as it is.

With Wimbledon having moved a week back recently, not a lot they can do. USO is when it is because of Labour Day weekend also (similar to how AO is during Australian holiday season).

It does suck how it clashes with NFL with the juggernaut NFL has become in America though.

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edy When: 11 Sep 17 00:20

Ask the NFL nicely to start a week later then.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:20

Yer that is what they actually need lol.

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:21

Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:20AM, edy wrote:

Ask the NFL nicely to start a week later then.

NFL won't, they're the ones in control now. US Open needs to move a week back.

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edy When: 11 Sep 17 00:21

but what about Tokyo 2/Hiroshima?

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Angela Rebecchi When: 11 Sep 17 00:22

Rafa Aussie 2018, well done.

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wisewords When: 11 Sep 17 00:22

is that your pick AR? I can't see it.

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n88uk When: 11 Sep 17 00:22

What's amazing is how so few viewers in America is still insanely valuable. Like US Open is getting lowest ratings in the home country by a long way, yet the host broadcaster is paying the most for it by a long way.

Albeit I would like to see how much Wimbledon went for if it was actually up on offer, their rights go for way less than their true value to stay on BBC, however this is a vicious on circle as it staying on BBC is what keeps Wimbledon forever relevant.