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majority of UKIP-ers think parliaments most important decisions should be made by referendum
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I'm somewhat sure Scotland and the other 2 countries currently being oppressed would be reasonably satisfied with that.
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Theresa May will be seen as responsible if the UK loses Scotland and NI
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The thing is though Aaron, I think people will ignore that Cameron brought up the referendum, especially as he campaigned for remain.
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Cameron took a great tactical gamble offering a referendum I think.
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And May could easily oversee a load of bad stuff. You've just listed one, she will be blamed for these. Normally someone becomes synonymous with these failures and I think it will be May.
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pandering to Kippers and the loony Tories not a good thing for me
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that's Cameron btw, though has carried on
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May's biggest blunders are that she's given in to the hardliners, despite herself and the majority of people probably preferring a softer approach, and that she's brought up hilariously stupid ideas like converting the UK into an offshore tax haven.
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Like if you take what I said about Chamberlain, and obv I'm always needling using his name, but if you were in his position in 1936 what was he actually meant to do. He had a public and a cabinet that strongly wanted to avoid war, his cabinet was like all behind appeasement. In fact that cabinet thought we should make peace with Hitler when offered it in 1940.
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I just think the number bods sat round a table and said. Labour are looking likely to get in. Offer a referendum and we might get enough voters to squeak a minority and stay in power but statistically it's impossible we will swing it to get a majority and therefore have to enact a referendum.
Tactical genius just the impossible happened and they got a majority. |
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love that the media can't just say we are leaving the EU and we can all play nice and get along |
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number bods should have realised the polls always overstate the left and they were looking good anyway
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Oh, I love chalk coastal mountains
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If it hadn't been for Chamblerlain himself specifically recommending Churchill as PM, we likely would have ended up with a PM who would have taken peace with Germany. As the actual candidates who would have been in running were all in favour of doing so.
I think I said before Churchill could never get in power under ordinary circumstances, everybody hated him in Lords/Commons etc. So this was actually genius from Chamblerlain, yet no-one ever gives him any credit for this historically. |
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or whatever you call them in English
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Churchill was hated by like all the old guard in Conservative party too.
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Peace between Germany and the UK would've been nice
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Would have been bad for future of the world and future democracy though.
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We would've left you alone, promise
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Well yer you would have for a long time at least, only because in reality you couldn't really attack us anyway.
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All we really wanted was to create some room out east and some nice atlantic coast holiday areas in what used to be France
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oh really
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I still think Germany would have lost if that happened, though the war likely would have gone on for a long, long time, much longer than it did.
And it was far from certain then too. And both outcomes then were hardly desirable were they. A Europe controlled by Nazi Germany. Or a Europe controlled by Stalin. |
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Germany would have won the war had they not been so desperate to attack the East for it's oil and steel resources.
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Like Germany would have actually been finished in the later scenario. As like the Iron Curtain would have been at least far West as borders with France if not even further west than that.
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They had to attack the East for those resources though as Germany didn't have them.
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Don't have any ressources now either and we're the greatest country on the planet
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As like the Iron Curtain would have been at least far West as borders with France if not even further west than that.
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I'm sure they could have made a pact with the East, they were on good terms.
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Japan = no ressources and 2nd most awesome country around
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We did have a pact with Stalin on Poland, just betrayed it
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Germany could have won under those conditions anyway. I still think you likely would have lost though. Partly because as said before Hitler was a mug on top of being evil. He would have made some blunders somewhere.
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Adolf didn't want to do deals and couldn't resist.
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Communism was Hitler's 2nd big enemy behind jews
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Like he did on d day when he refused to send panzers and other tanks further west as he refused to believe the landings were significant and genuine and just a dummy for further east.
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They especially would have won if you combined an attack in the west on Russia with attack in the east in Russia from Japan, then I definitely think Germany would have won.
But Japan had no interest in that, as it didn't help them (needed resources and all the resources in Russia are western Russia, also East Russia very easy to defend with mountainous terrain etc.). |
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Exactly edy, but you could have made a pact for resources and future reperations and later betrayed those.
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nazi Germany did have a pact with Stalin as I said, just chose to betray it, take Stalin by surprise (from what I know) and attack them nonetheless
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