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aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:42
When Stanley Baldwin retired in May 1937, Chamberlain took his place as Prime Minister. His premiership was dominated by the question of policy toward the increasingly aggressive Germany, and his actions at Munich were widely popular among Britons at the time

will of the people Tongue Out
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 28 Mar 17 22:43
Is she bad? I have no opinion really. I know running a country is bloody hard, she seems to have handled pushing through Brexit quite well despite it not being her will.
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:44
Was Chamberlain on our side?
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:46
yes
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:47
No, he declared war on Germany.
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:47
No wonder he is considered among the worst then
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:47
jerk
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2qlZHW-fDI
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:48
So what makes him a worst PM of all time candidate?
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:49
Declaring war on Nazi Germany seems like something the average modern Brit could get behind.
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:49
Apart from Barbara Fielding
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:49
maybe in the late 30s
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:50
dunno about 2017
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:50

Mar 28, 2017 -- 4:48PM, edy wrote:


So what makes him a worst PM of all time candidate?


He isn't officially the worst. Technically voted 2nd worst I think.

And because he is blamed for causing war. He was behind appeasement, aka what turned out to be the biggest blunder in British politics history.

By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 28 Mar 17 22:52
What's Theresa doing wrong? I'm not really clever enough to understand politics and the ins and outs. She seems to have handled Brexit well from what I've seen.

What are peoples thoughts on Nicola trying to bludgeon through another referendum for Scotland.
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:52
Appeasement was nice after all of Europe had humiliated and ashamed Germany in the treaty of Versailles with shameful, nasty demands.
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:53
Sturgeon is just showing that democracy in the UK = what England wants
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:53
Being the one to invoke Brexit will be the issue AR in history.

If it goes belly up, May will get the blame for invoking it.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 28 Mar 17 22:54
Obviously Europe wanted Germany to be somewhat crippled so you couldn't amass an army and to warn other dictators away from the idea of waging war.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 28 Mar 17 22:54
Surely she had no choice but to invoke it?
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:55
She didn't because you English have no tradition with referendums and don't quite understand them. Unlike e.g the Swiss
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:56
the planning behind it and the way things haven't done much to convince sceptics imo (not rabid remainers)
cosying up to the Donald was bad also
also, she is that bad in PMQs that Corbyn manages not to flail every week
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:56

Mar 28, 2017 -- 4:54PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


Surely she had no choice but to invoke it?


Probably, but irrelevant in the history books.

By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:56

Mar 28, 2017 -- 4:53PM, edy wrote:


Sturgeon is just showing that democracy in the UK = what England wants


leaving the EU is such a change that another referendum is justified. Remain wins and another referendum not justifiable for another generation

By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:57
Northern Ireland can leave the UK to go to the EU if they want, I heard
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 22:57
if reunification happens
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 22:57
Does a majority of NI even want reunification yet?
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 28 Mar 17 22:58
The EU referendum was always promised if the UK voted Tory majority, Scotland didn't go into this with their eyes shut.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:58
Like 61% or something supported appeasement in 1936. No-one excuses Chamberlain for doing it though.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 22:59
And I believe was 61% in a 3 way poll too, with "do not know" as an option.
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 23:00
think Cameron deserves much more of the blame tbh
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 23:01
He shouldn't have done a referendum was the mistake, I don't think history will remember it like that though.
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 23:01
I think it will
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 23:01
You know, Brexit could be a success
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 23:02
just sayin'
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 23:02

Mar 28, 2017 -- 4:58PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


The EU referendum was always promised if the UK voted Tory majority, Scotland didn't go into this with their eyes shut.


true

good how one of remain arguments in 2014 was that Scotland voting meant they left the EU, then they made it the case that a referendum could happen a year later Tongue Out

By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 23:02
they also promised extra powers for Scotland and dunno if that ever happened
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Mar 17 23:02

Mar 28, 2017 -- 10:08AM, aaronh wrote:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8A4KM0WkAAKxnW.jpg:large47% not arsed about work rights and protections, nice


.

By:
n88uk
When: 28 Mar 17 23:03
People thought Chamberlain sacrificing Czech Republic for peace in September 1938 was genius. Wasn't until early 1939 public opinion massively swayed into the eyes of war was inevitable and appeasement won't work.
By:
edy
When: 28 Mar 17 23:03
The UK should really just become a proper federation of states instead of a top down English hegemony with a few dangled devolved powers
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