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By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:36
Also another In/Out referendum by 2019 is only like 2.5 too.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:36

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:33PM, n88uk wrote:


Britain are only 3s to never leave the EU.


when is a bet to "never" leave the EU getting settled btw?

By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:36
It's not. The official bet is 2018/later/never.
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:36
So it settles 1st Jan 2018.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:37
ok
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:38
Why you so desperate to throw us out, I thought you liked us Edy Sad.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:38
May said Brexit means Brexit. What's there left to speculate about you not triggering it? Nothing, even if the vote is largely the result of misinformation campaigns and protest votes against the local government
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:38

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:36PM, n88uk wrote:


Also another In/Out referendum by 2019 is only like 2.5 too.


cool

By:
wisewords
When: 11 Jul 16 20:38
Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn 9h9 hours ago

Delighted to announce that @CEdwardsBoxing will face IBF World champ John Riel Casimero on the huge Sept 10 show at the O2-go get it kid!
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:39
That seems the worst price ever Aaron. I'm scratching my head at that one. Surely if they like another referendum in 18 months there would be absolute riots unless public opinion has massively swung for some reason.
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:41
yes
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:41
2020 or later                                            1.67                                                               
2016                                            2.5                                                               
2017                                            6

year of next election
By:
wisewords
When: 11 Jul 16 20:41
Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn 8h8 hours ago

Before his World title shot @CEdwardsBoxing fights this Sat on @SauerlandBros in Berlin topped by World title Carolis v Zeuge on @SkySports
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:41
The way I see it, you'll leave the EU, stay in the single market, keep paying, keep going for EU standardisations (hey, I read the other day that you promised to go all metric system like 50 years ago, get on with it already ffs), free movement etc. etc, just not be part of the next coolest and best superpower on the planet
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:41

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:41PM, edy wrote:


The way I see it, you'll leave the EU, stay in the single market, keep paying, keep going for EU standardisations (hey, I read the other day that you promised to go all metric system like 50 years ago, get on with it already ffs), free movement etc. etc, just not be part of the next coolest and best superpower on the planet


sounds like being in the EU with less powers

By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:42

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:38PM, edy wrote:


May said Brexit means Brexit. What's there left to speculate about you not triggering it? Nothing, even if the vote is largely the result of misinformation campaigns and protest votes against the local government


That's just words isn't it. She had to say that or she would never get in. If you read her policies, she's said she won't activate article 50 until negotiations have begun with the EU. EU say they won't negotiate until we activate article 50. So there's a problem immediately. It's perceived May won't take a gamble of just activating it willy nilly. Leadsom was going to activate it in September with no real plan what happens next, May at least has a plan, but her listed plan will never happen.

By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:42
exactly Aaron
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:42
Also there are some rumours of they can try a con like have a vote of MPs of should we activate article 50, in which case yes would never win in a vote of MPs.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:43
all just pipe dreams, but I'm only looking from afar, so...
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:44
no Tories will vote against it, therefore it will pass
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:44

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:41PM, edy wrote:


The way I see it, you'll leave the EU, stay in the single market, keep paying, keep going for EU standardisations (hey, I read the other day that you promised to go all metric system like 50 years ago, get on with it already ffs), free movement etc. etc, just not be part of the next coolest and best superpower on the planet


This seems the most likely option as you say. However there's a huge flaw to this, in that it doesn't actually satisfy the majority of leave voters.

But I agree this is the "favourite" scenario. And it will be spun in some bs way to make out we got a deal, when we didn't.

By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:45
No-one wants to be the person to activate article 50 Edy because it's too much of a gamble. You can go down as the worst prime minister of all time if you do that. There has to be something in it. Otherwise it wouldn't be 2.4x to effectively never be activated.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:45
I went to the politics forum yesterday and someone said something like "while we negotiate our EU exit, we can negotiate our own really cool trade deals with all them 190 countries in those two years"

I thought that was incredibly cute. How much top class diplomats do people think you have?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:45
*many
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:45
5
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:46
Because people are deluded Edy. Most mugs think the EU will just bow down and give us all we want ie. access for us and not access for you.
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 11 Jul 16 20:47
leave voters get pretty offended I heard if you think they are stupid and had no real idea of what will happen if we actually left
By:
tof
When: 11 Jul 16 20:48
New PM by Wednesday , doo dee deee dum !! Andrea rose like a Leadsom balloon .LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:48
i'm not sure EEA membership is what many of the staunch Brexiters want
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:49
I don't believe most are stupid. I can't really blame anyone if he's told lies about the EU for year after year by his own government and large parts of the press
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:49
The problem is you have to be a complete muppet really to activate article 50 with zero reassurances. Once we activate it we lose bargaining power with the EU, as then the clock is ticking for us to make a deal, and if we don't get one, then it's us left in the gutter. That is why the article 50 prices are like they are imo, because if you activate it with no reassurance you are entering the pure world of the unknown and could drag the country into economic meltdown. Logical leaders don't tend to do things like that, Theresa May is perceived to be a logical leader.
By:
tof
When: 11 Jul 16 20:49
Angela Eagle is a huge fooking mug !!
By:
thepunter
When: 11 Jul 16 20:50
Donald ducks are ready for the fest.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 20:50
and then thinks the EU is the root of all problems if you're constantly told by everybody because it's an incredibly easy target to blame for your own mishaps
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:50
And let's get it straight I don't think May is even that great, but when the other options are so dire, she's the best of a bad bunch. UK politics is in the gutter really. Conservatives now supporting leaving the EU, and a Labour party that is a complete joke. Who are you meant to vote for next?
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Jul 16 20:50

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:49PM, edy wrote:


I don't believe most are stupid. I can't really blame anyone if he's told lies about the EU for year after year by his own government and large parts of the press


Isn't the second part effectively being stupid?

By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 11 Jul 16 20:51

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:49PM, edy wrote:


I don't believe most are stupid. I can't really blame anyone if he's told lies about the EU for year after year by his own government and large parts of the press


should do some of their own research before making what is probably the biggest vote of their lives imo

By:
tof
When: 11 Jul 16 20:51
I have faith in Mother Theresa ,she ill lead us out of this wilderness
By:
tof
When: 11 Jul 16 20:51
will
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 20:51

Jul 11, 2016 -- 8:51PM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:


Jul 11, 2016 --  8:49PM, edy wrote:I don't believe most are stupid. I can't really blame anyone if he's told lies about the EU for year after year by his own government and large parts of the pressshould do some of their own research before making what is probably the biggest vote of their lives imo


they should but the debates should have been better than the gutter stuff they were

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