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By:
Welshie5121
When: 31 Jan 15 20:25

Jan 31, 2015 -- 3:25PM, wisewords wrote:


ACON?


ye

By:
niten
When: 31 Jan 15 20:26
yeah, a blind man would actually have got more right throughout the match.
By:
Welshie5121
When: 31 Jan 15 20:26
I've said it for years, the standard of football in the tournament is shocking, but the officiating is even worse.
By:
Welshie5121
When: 31 Jan 15 20:27
So both of the KO matches have had at least 1 1.05 gubbing in them.
By:
niten
When: 31 Jan 15 20:28
australia this morining too
By:
wisewords
When: 31 Jan 15 20:33
aaron?
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:34
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2821907/Inside-world-s-smallest-beauty-pageant-Just-EIGHT-contestants  -vie-title-Miss-Gibraltar-year-ve-Miss-World-winners-Spain.html
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:34
lol only 8 people
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:34
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2821907/Inside-world-s- smallest-beauty-pageant- Just-EIGHT-contestants-vie-title-Miss-Gibraltar-year-ve-Miss-World-winners-Spain.html
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:34
think il go next time
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:35
yes ww
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:36
8 years old and still pretty classic

Williams is lost cause
For all her talk, Serena Williams will never return to the top again
Pat Cash
IF ANYBODY is qualified to make deluded statements about tennis, it is a former world No 1 and winner of seven Grand Slam titles. But when Serena Williams arrives in Australia on her first foreign playing trip in a year and announces that it is only a matter of time before she is again dominating the sport, it’s time to tell her to get real.

Tennis is unforgiving. You can’t let it slide down the list of priorities, only to realise suddenly that playing the sport was what you wanted to do all along. Many have tried to turn back the clock, but nearly all have failed. That list includes Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe, Martina Hingis and, for different reasons, Monica Seles.

Admittedly this quartet experienced some success. The exploits of Hingis reaffirm the belief that a good champion never completely loses the gift, but she has gone only a fraction of the way and the No 1 ranking she held for a couple of years is far out of reach. Why? Tennis moved on in her absence.

The only players I can recall who let things slip, only to climb back to the top, were Andre Agassi and Jennifer Capriati. Williams should ask herself if she has the same dedication. And is she prepared to make the sacrifices? The answer is obvious.

As the saying so often used by McEnroe goes: “The older I get, the better player I used to be.” I take issue with Mac over many things, but not the merits of those words.

Williams may be in better physical shape this year than when she pitched up for the 2006 Australian Open, but her three matches in Hobart last week were her first in tournament play since the US Open almost four months ago. Add to that the fact that last year she opted not to play outside the US after losing in the third round in Melbourne and you cannot fail to agree that her application is lacking.

The Williams sisters changed the face of women’s tennis, taking power play to previously unimaginable levels. They blazed everybody else out of their path. But Serena clearly has a limited attention span. At her peak she had no patience in the way she played her tennis. Now she does not appear to have the fortitude to stick at what she is trying to do.

I never experienced a fraction of the success and dominance that she enjoyed, but there came a time in my career when everything associated with being a top player seemed suffocating. I wanted to do different things and the thought of heading to the practice court seemed like purgatory. Eventually I realised how much tennis meant to me and tried to make up for lost time, but although the spirit was willing, the body was not. And it made for years of frustration.

In the same way I maintained that my main interest was aspiring to be a rock musician for a couple of years, Williams said she was an actress. She also got involved in the fashion world and seemed to love every second of it. Good on her. She is entitled to do whatever she wants, and if it made her happy, what more could she ask?

Everybody knows she and Venus had no real choice when their father, Richard, decided that much of their childhood would be spent hitting tennis balls. Who can be surprised that this promotes a desire to do something different? But to make such a crass statement on her arrival in Australia was an insult to Amelie Mauresmo and Maria Sharapova, who have risen to the top of the game in her absence.

They are the new winning breed. They are tall and hit the ball just as hard as the Williams sisters, if not harder. Coming through are Jelena Jankovic, Nicole Vaidisova and Ana Ivanovic, who possess similar firepower and just need a little more experience.

There is so much more depth to the women’s game nowadays. No longer do we disregard the first week of a Grand Slam as a warm-up for the real confrontations that are to come.

I still don’t expect too many upsets before the quarter-finals, but neither do I expect Serena Williams, currently the world’s 81st-ranked player, with eight Americans above her in the rankings, to be in the mix at the sharp end of the tournament.
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:36
take my payslip and loadsa yens make the bimbos fall in love with me
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:36
wont mention my gambling or drinking
By:
map
When: 31 Jan 15 20:36
Excited
By:
niten
When: 31 Jan 15 20:41
that's even worse than 'you don't win anything with kids'
By:
wisewords
When: 31 Jan 15 20:42

Jan 31, 2015 -- 3:35PM, aaronh wrote:


yes ww


Meister or James?

By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:42
James
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:43

Jan 31, 2015 -- 3:41PM, niten wrote:


that's even worse than 'you don't win anything with kids'


the winning new breed won 1 slam

By:
wisewords
When: 31 Jan 15 20:44
Laugh
By:
Welshie5121
When: 31 Jan 15 20:44
Tunisia are losing in ET!! WTF.
By:
n88uk
When: 31 Jan 15 20:45
It's really hard to get into the mindset of that time if that ever felt a sensible article. Obviously it's easy to laugh at it now.

I followed tennis then, but not the extent I do now, so I'm not sure how strong an opinion I had at the time.
By:
niten
When: 31 Jan 15 20:46
every time an eg player gets within 6 feet of a tunisian they fall over and the ref blows, game over, i lose.
By:
Welshie5121
When: 31 Jan 15 20:47
I have lost 6 out of 7 bets since the 3:00 PL games finished.

Cannot believe this!

Think I need to stop betting on a Sat for now.
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:49

Jan 31, 2015 -- 3:45PM, n88uk wrote:


It's really hard to get into the mindset of that time if that ever felt a sensible article. Obviously it's easy to laugh at it now.I followed tennis then, but not the extent I do now, so I'm not sure how strong an opinion I had at the time.


well even if it was. it's still funny to laugh when you see things go spectacularly wrong

By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:51
Serena won 8-6 vs [16] Pe'er in the quarters
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:52
of that AO
By:
n88uk
When: 31 Jan 15 20:52

Jan 31, 2015 -- 3:43PM, aaronh wrote:


Jan 31, 2015 --  9:41PM, niten wrote:that's even worse than 'you don't win anything with kids'the winning new breed won 1 slam


This is heavily linked to something I'm reading atm.

Basically talking about how they think the new generation (Keys, Muguruza, Bouchard are the 3 named) will eventually take over from Serena, and how they look  better than the era before (Azarenka, Kvitova, Radwanska the 3 named [no idea where Wozniacki is]).

This feels so kneejerk when you consider Halep who is probably consisted of the oldest player of the "next generation" at 23. Of players 23 and under atm they have won I think 1 tier I between them. The 4 names who are normally referred to as the generation before them were far more accomplished at their ages.

By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:52
Pin made headlines at the 2007 Australian Open, after playing top seed Maria Sharapova in the first round and coming within two points of winning the match. After recovering from a 0–5 0–30 deficit in the final set, Pin eventually lost with a final score of 6–3, 4–6, 9–7.

what a cool mugfest
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:52
Vika-Woz-Aga-??
By:
n88uk
When: 31 Jan 15 20:53
Kvitova.
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:53
ah of course
By:
n88uk
When: 31 Jan 15 20:53
They're all 24-25.
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:54
it doesn't feel like 20 and unders are going to suddenly become contenders and pack the top 10 anytime soon
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:54
those 3 can have great potential but being constantly there at the end really seems like something that could happen in 2-3 years
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:55
not next year
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:55
or even this
By:
n88uk
When: 31 Jan 15 20:55
I feel like they get way too much criticism like that. That their rubbish because they could never dethrone Serena.

The next generation will probably do more winning as they will face an easier era (ie. the post-Serena era, and probably post-Sharapova for a lot of their primes too), but is any of the new generation really that super special?
By:
n88uk
When: 31 Jan 15 20:56
The next generation also consists of way more players which benefits arguments like these (ie. against what I'm arguing).

Because people will argue the next generation consists of everyone from as young as Konjuh up to Halep. That's like 17-23. And must consist of around 10 players.
By:
aaronh
When: 31 Jan 15 20:57

Jan 31, 2015 -- 3:55PM, n88uk wrote:


I feel like they get way too much criticism like that. That their rubbish because they could never dethrone Serena.The next generation will probably do more winning as they will face an easier era (ie. the post-Serena era, and probably post-Sharapova for a lot of their primes too), but is any of the new generation really that super special?


do you think the same argument can apply for the men - Raonic/Dimitrov/Nishikori aren't that good because they haven't threatened the big 2/3/3.5/4 on a regular basis

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