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map
When: 27 Jul 14 21:38
i dont agee with that as they need money to get by and if theyre working fulltime no time to train surely?
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:38
which constitutes the US American challenger and ITF tournaments
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 27 Jul 14 21:39
you shouldn't make a great living off challengers/itf's but at least raise it with inflation/cost of living, it's been static for years
By:
map
When: 27 Jul 14 21:39
they should make enough to be comfortable
By:
map
When: 27 Jul 14 21:40
not saying 100000s obviously
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:41
Let's take this Nanchang $125k anyway. This is like as high as prize money goes at challenger level even on ATP.

Winner - $20k
Final - $11k
SF - $6k
QF - $4k
R2 - $2k
R1 - $1050

Then you have challengers like Oberstaufen.

Winner - 5035 euros
F - 2975 euros
SF - 1760 euros
QF - 1020 euros
R2 - 600 euros
R1 - 365 euros

Not making a lot of money if you go out in the early rounds of the latter.
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:42
Dustin Brown was sooooooooooooo poor, his parents bought him one of those really VW Buses and he traveled with it from tournament to tournament on continental Europe. Might've slept in it too.
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:42
*one of those really old VW buses
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 27 Jul 14 21:42
the best players will get out of that level pretty quickly anyway
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:43
this stuff is why the story of Estrella is so great Happy
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:44
or Lorenzi
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:44
slugging it out on futures and challenger level for 15 years before finally making the top100
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:44
Cool
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:45
if SIG had his way they would have retired 10years ago
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:45
Yer. The biggest thing is what you say SabineIsGOAT. It needs to be a way that you don't need a lot of money to start to come up the ranks.

Not everyone is a super talent. But say I have prospects for top 20-30, sponsors might not have jumped to my support, if you don't have parents with high disposable income you are going to struggle to fund yourself for maybe 5 years rising up the ranks (from the very bottom lets say).
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:45
It's especially true now that it's becoming harder and harder for youngsters to break through.
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:46
That's why the college way keeps being a very attractive option for tennis players
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:46
If I am not breaking top 100 to 22-23, what am I meant to be doing from 18 to 22-23.
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:48
you're on a scholarship, earn yourself a degree, hone your tennis skill, get to evaluate your level at about 22, maybe give it a go and if you are not good enough after all or don't like life on tour you have that degree to fall back on (albeit most tennis players graduating in something that will have given them enough time to still focus on tennis)
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:48
Go look up what say Roberto Bautista-Agut was making before this year.
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:48
or become a local tennis coach
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:51
Like, not too long and Julia Cohen will work in a team with with smb. Him being the strength & conditioning coach, Cohen being the nutritionist.
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:51
'cuz she clearly ain't good enough to cut it at playing big babe tennis
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:52
your mum is a big babe
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:53

Jul 27, 2014 -- 9:48PM, n88uk wrote:


Go look up what say Roberto Bautista-Agut was making before this year.


how much

By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 27 Jul 14 21:53
Probably worse examples, at least when he was still down at futures level making no money tons of the tournaments were in Spain so would be alot less money going on travel expenses
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:53
me mum lost 25 pounds last year ffs. Don't make her go into fatshaming again. It's a progress.
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:53

Jul 27, 2014 -- 9:48PM, edy wrote:


you're on a scholarship, earn yourself a degree, hone your tennis skill, get to evaluate your level at about 22, maybe give it a go and if you are not good enough after all or don't like life on tour you have that degree to fall back on (albeit most tennis players graduating in something that will have given them enough time to still focus on tennis)


don't they just get most athletes to do lame degrees that are probably worthless

By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:54
Surely they are worth something.
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:55
Bautista-Agut is 26 years old, and now ranked world number 26. Probably didn't have a lot of hype about him. He's made $1.98m in his career, $984k was this year.

2014 - $984k
2013 - $490k
2012 - $171k
2011 - $63k
2010 - $77k
2009 - $32k
2008 - $12.8k
2007 - $10.5k
2006 - $2k
2005 - $2.9k
2004 - $787

He probably wasn't even making money until he was 24.

And being Spanish he has it one of the better ways, as Spain has a lot of lower tournaments for him to play. What if you have a player like that from a country without the tournament and financial support?
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 21:55
nah
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:56
He is world number 16 rather.
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:56
Not world number 26.
By:
AZ91
When: 27 Jul 14 21:56
chmpionship point big john
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:56
Can't compare the tennis players, who often come at least from a good middle-class background with some education in mind, to some of the quite probably proper dumb kids who play e.g american football either I think. Even if neither group will pick up engineering degrees.
By:
AZ91
When: 27 Jul 14 21:57
engineering is for mugs
By:
edy
When: 27 Jul 14 21:57

Jul 27, 2014 -- 9:55PM, n88uk wrote:


Bautista-Agut is 26 years old, and now ranked world number 26. Probably didn't have a lot of hype about him. He's made $1.98m in his career, $984k was this year.2014 - $984k2013 - $490k2012 - $171k2011 - $63k2010 - $77k2009 - $32k2008 - $12.8k2007 - $10.5k2006 - $2k2005 - $2.9k2004 - $787He probably wasn't even making money until he was 24.And being Spanish he has it one of the better ways, as Spain has a lot of lower tournaments for him to play. What if you have a player like that from a country without the tournament and financial support?


before taxes

By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 21:58
Not all of them is that true for though Edy.

Plus for every Sharapova super success where her dad moved to USA and worked jobs to make ends meet, there must be failed versions of that story that we never hear off. Then what you have a child who for all intents and purposes has no qualifications.
By:
n88uk
When: 27 Jul 14 22:00
Azarenka was financed by a Belarussian NHL player financing her to move to USA.
By:
aaronh
When: 27 Jul 14 22:00

Jul 27, 2014 -- 10:00PM, n88uk wrote:


Azarenka was financed by a Belarussian NHL player financing her to move to USA.


Surprised

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