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ArmchairIdiot When: 30 Mar 14 20:44

That's better

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:45

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:44PM, Howdi wrote:

hope not wise im on at 8-11

you'll need an implosion. A drunk Boris Beckeresque implosion

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mesmerised When: 30 Mar 14 20:45

Rafa wont give up? Well tell us something we don't know, he's being outplayed and out thought left right and centre.

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Howdi When: 30 Mar 14 20:45

novak on his day is best ive seen I think

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:45

agreed mes. which is why I said he'd need Novak to engage a mug mode..

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:46

so important nadal won that point, and as long as he stays in touch...novak will be troubled mentally. especially knowing he has had opportunities for the double break

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Howdi When: 30 Mar 14 20:46

if everyone in history plated their A game who would u say is best on a hard court

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:46

potential match point

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slip5 When: 30 Mar 14 20:46

nadal wears a thong ffs

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n88uk When: 30 Mar 14 20:46

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:42PM, aaronh wrote:

Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:40PM, Howdi wrote:Mesmer ...never underestimate rafa power of recoveryNadal isn't really even playing that bad, he just has no say right now

Nadal's mistake today is he's being dictated to too often. I always think this match tends to go in favour of who is standing on the baseline, and not in favour of the guy who is doing all the scrambling. Arguably it's down to Djokovic, but I would Nadal has been to ineffective in what he's trying to do today. Nadal's much more effective vs Djokovic when he's standing on the baseline and pinging him side to side, then Djokovic is just scrambling.

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ArmchairIdiot When: 30 Mar 14 20:47

Ive always said Nole at his very best begates anything Fed or Rafa can at their best can throw at him.

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:47

huge point. could be pivotal

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ArmchairIdiot When: 30 Mar 14 20:47

*negates

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:47

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:46PM, n88uk wrote:

Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:42PM, aaronh wrote:Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:40PM, Howdi wrote:Mesmer ...never underestimate rafa power of recoveryNadal isn't really even playing that bad, he just has no say right nowNadal's mistake today is he's being dictated to too often. I always think this match tends to go in favour of who is standing on the baseline, and not in favour of the guy who is doing all the scrambling. Arguably it's down to Djokovic, but I would Nadal has been to ineffective in what he's trying to do today. Nadal's much more effective vs Djokovic when he's standing on the baseline and pinging him side to side, then Djokovic is just scrambling.

This relationship is dictated by who can hit their forehand consistently deep. Rafa can't do that, hence he becomes the bitch / scrambler

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slip5 When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

federer is not the best, sampras owns him

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

the demons will start to creep into novaks mind now

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Howdi When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

fed was miles better than fed

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mesmerised When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:48PM, slip5 wrote:

federer is not the best, sampras owns him

^^ poor fishing

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ArmchairIdiot When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

Nole is friends witht the monsters these days

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

DEMONS

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:48

demons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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slip5 When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:48PM, AZ91 wrote:

the demons will start to creep into novaks mind now

there are no demons only in horror movies

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n88uk When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

Fed at his best > Djokovic at his best (this match up was always in Fed's favour)

Even this match up, it's hard to argue how much it's in Djokovic's favour when Nadal still leads the head to head and apart from 2011, Djokovic has never really dominated him, and Nadal has won way too many of the big encounters.

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

if you took novak early in the match....now is the time to trade out

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aaronh When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:48PM, slip5 wrote:

federer is not the best, sampras owns him

Fed 1-0 h2h

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lurka When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

djok in white hat = muggery at some point, always does

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n88uk When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:47PM, wisewords wrote:

Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:46PM, n88uk wrote:Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:42PM, aaronh wrote:Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:40PM, Howdi wrote:Mesmer ...never underestimate rafa power of recoveryNadal isn't really even playing that bad, he just has no say right nowNadal's mistake today is he's being dictated to too often. I always think this match tends to go in favour of who is standing on the baseline, and not in favour of the guy who is doing all the scrambling. Arguably it's down to Djokovic, but I would Nadal has been to ineffective in what he's trying to do today. Nadal's much more effective vs Djokovic when he's standing on the baseline and pinging him side to side, then Djokovic is just scrambling.This relationship is dictated by who can hit their forehand consistently deep. Rafa can't do that, hence he becomes the bitch / scrambler

When Nadal is at his absolute best though he does. See the US hard court summer last year.

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:49

take your stake back off Novak. that's all you need to do

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ArmchairIdiot When: 30 Mar 14 20:50

The **** drop shot is usually an indication that Nole is thinking about it too much

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Howdi When: 30 Mar 14 20:50

goes 15-30 im outta town

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slip5 When: 30 Mar 14 20:50

sampras would have won every point at the net against federer

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:50

Mar 30, 2014 -- 8:49PM, n88uk wrote:

Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:47PM, wisewords wrote:Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:46PM, n88uk wrote:Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:42PM, aaronh wrote:Mar 30, 2014 -- 7:40PM, Howdi wrote:Mesmer ...never underestimate rafa power of recoveryNadal isn't really even playing that bad, he just has no say right nowNadal's mistake today is he's being dictated to too often. I always think this match tends to go in favour of who is standing on the baseline, and not in favour of the guy who is doing all the scrambling. Arguably it's down to Djokovic, but I would Nadal has been to ineffective in what he's trying to do today. Nadal's much more effective vs Djokovic when he's standing on the baseline and pinging him side to side, then Djokovic is just scrambling.This relationship is dictated by who can hit their forehand consistently deep. Rafa can't do that, hence he becomes the bitch / scramblerWhen Nadal is at his absolute best though he does. See the US hard court summer last year.

He can't find that level today though / he chooses not to engage that level today

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n88uk When: 30 Mar 14 20:51

Federer had the perfect way to dissect Novak. In that the one play Novak doesn't particularly like is people giving him mid court slices, it puts him out of position, and he's rarely been confident enough to come in behind it.

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SabineIsGOAT When: 30 Mar 14 20:51

Novak holds easily here it will say alot

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wisewords When: 30 Mar 14 20:51

Maybe Boris has exorcised the demons, AZ

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ArmchairIdiot When: 30 Mar 14 20:51

Needs another 5 grams on his racket

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Howdi When: 30 Mar 14 20:52

fed was lucky bunch ofmugs at start of his career

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AZ91 When: 30 Mar 14 20:52

lol. ww

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edy When: 30 Mar 14 20:52

Boris recovering from hip surgery in London atm

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