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Tennis
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23 Jan 13
12:18
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murray to win in 3 again for me
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are you a mentalist?..Sir Roger has never lost in a slam against the ginger jock...
yet somehow you reckon the greatest of all time wont win a single set? does the funny farm realise you are missing? |
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lol and?!
muz a different player last 6 months i've checked the forecast and no rain due, so the roof won't be saving roger |
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Can't believ the odds compilers have murray so short ,thought Murray would be about 1.83 ,Federer 1.91.
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not 3 sets probably but should be victory for scottish boy
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Re-posting from t'other thread > There are very few players that have the shot variety and tools in their box to dismantle Federer. Murray is one of them, his H2H stats are only bettered by Nadal if memory serves. If you look at how well Tsonga handled Fed's serve today, Murray will do even better being the top 2 or 3 returners in the game.
It has been Murray's lack of mental toughness against Fed that held him back, especially in GS finals where the pressure is immense. This is a SF, so less pressure and the GS drought is over, so he has nothing to prove. For me, these are the reasons why Murray will overcome Fed. There is also the physical edge, while I think Fed is fit enough to handle 5 tough sets, he would much rather be done in 3 or 4 but I don't think he will get the chance, not on Murray's current form. Just my two penneth.. |
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only thing that i'm worry about is murray's mental toughness also
but i think that he grown up already (slam + olympics should do this for him). and he's always playing very good in Oz land so should be easy for him if he won't go crazy |
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There is abit of a problem for Murray in this match, as all of his matches, have been comfortable 3 sets to nil wins, while Fed had a proper test today. Murray will have his first real test against Federer and it will be the 1st time Federer, will go in as the underdog. It may be that Andy Murray is playing that well that no ordinary player can get near him, but I reckon this will go to a 5th set. Murray will still be in cruise mode, at the start, while Federer will be in fighting mode. It should be a great match, of which both players are well capable of winning
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Fed beat an excellent Tsonga today. No disgrace in going the distance. He's hitting the ball as well as ever, and the key for Murray will be whether he can get at Feds only weakness these days: Doubt. Tsonga didn't smell it today - Murray's more of a shark on court and gets the scent.
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Murray complain of the bad timing of his shots. If no problem, he is favorite. But for me 1.7 is too low. For me 1.85 more correct price. Must watch to see how many UEs he make.
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that was in the early rounds
he didn't have any complaints against chardy apart from the middle of the 1st set and when he first served for it |
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Murray's time now, he knows he can beat Federer.
Fed still great but he was beat by Byrdy in the US and pushed by Tsonga here. |
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 ,pre and in play. |
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murray on the drift
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Fed is like Sharapova...demolishes most players but when it comes to someone equal or better they fold faster than superman on laundry day. Murray has conquered his mental frailtys and physically he is muscle on muscle. I envision a lot of fed backhands into the net
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Time to pile in on Murray if you ask me, Ferrer just made Djoko look good today, he has been looking jaded and old for the past 6 months or so winning minor tournaments.
Murray beat Djoko fair and square in the US he will do it again, if you doubt it watch the match again. |
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i have every confidence murray will beat fed but not sure about djoko
murray needed windy conditions and a lot of djok errors to win us open |
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*And yep, Murray for me as well
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Last 3 Major tournaments:
Djoko lost to Murray in US Final Djoko lost at Semi's in Olympic then lost Bronze match to Del Potro Djoko lost Wimledon semi final.# My odds would be: 10/11 Djoko, 11/10 Murray, 9/2 Federer If Murray gets to the final. Murray 4/5 Djoko 11/10 |
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Dont know how Tsonga didnt put Fed away, the great man looked seriously under pressure from the start as he could tell Jo was playing so well and aggressively, I agree fed hitting the ball as well as ever, but Murray found the belief and now hitting it as good as Djokovic, Murray in 3 or 4.
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The rhino Murray was 11/8 v Federer at Wimbledon . Fed 4/7 or that.. Fed beat him at the atp in london a month ago it's a bit of an overreaction from bookies he's beaten chumps so far in straight sets same as what Federer had done before yesterday.. Odds are too one sided it's an even game IMO
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Odds too one sided? 1.73 is 57% chance for Murray... that's almost an even chance
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Well, it's actually more like 58% Murray vs. 42% Federer. That isn't exactly "evens" though! Having said that, I think the odds SHOULD be around evens. To tight to call it for me.
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murray should win but was expecting 1.9 2.1 fed
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What odds would a Djokovic vs Fed final be please
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1.3 on djok and 3.9 on fed
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will depend on how easy or not Fed puts away Mugray, but I suppose Djoker clear fav, low 1.6x in case of a 5-setter, 1.75 in case of a clear Fed win
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not a chance djocko will be 1.3 in a final v fed. 1.65 id imagine possibly a tad shorter. 1.3 is ludicris
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bb66,
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Fed to go off like a rocket, probably goes a break up or may be even wins first set. Then, pile into Murray.
Murray to win in 4 as Fed tires, UE count climbs and Murray crucifies Feds weak 2nd serve. Murray wins and you get over 2.0 into the bargain. sunday final just too tight to call. |
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What would odds look like if Fed takes the 1st set with a break or TB? A flip of SP or only evens?
Also, it should be about right to assume Feds only real chance of taking this would be if he runs ahead first right? Seems to have been a long time since he won with a big comeback. |
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I guess you could say his olympic SF was a comback, but then again it went wrong the next 2 times with DelPo and of course there was the Birdy QF
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i have backed fed in most of the matchups with muzza. might be wrong here but i think muzza has obtained the early break in the most recent ones. fed looks nervous when he serves v muzza as he gets a lot back
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if Muzz wins the 1st set he wins 3-0
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Can't believe the Fed Express is odds against. I'm having my biggest bet ever on him. £2.50
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I would imagine fed can keep in touch for a while, would expct murray to win in three, would lay fed in the + 4.5 games 1.52
cant see him winning more than 10 |
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@the rhino......I agree the match is a toss of a coin. I have decided to wait and watch a few games. Usually I can tell from Murray's demeanour whether or not he believes he will win. You can never read Federer like that. For example, if it goes something like 3-3 in the 1st set and the odds are still against Federer and Murray is displaying negative tendencies, then it is time to move in and bet. That is only, of course if you are like me and think Federer is still the better of the 2 players still.
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