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you could also turn that around and say if Fed was 25 and these guys were around at the same age that Fed wouldn't have won as much as he did.
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the whole ManUre squad, what's the last time they won anything..?
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Youssou N'Dour, hasn't had a hit since 1994
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thank gawd they didn't make Caro sing it she would be out of top 100 |
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on itunes or wta rankings?
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depends if she was wearing clothes in the video
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fed should defo consider retirement. The great man is a legend but longer he goes getting beat by muzza, djocko and possibly nadal depending how bad knees r the more people guna question his record. i already question would he hav won half as many with them 3 wer around wen he was in his pomp
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Muzza has raised his game to a new level now. It was only Fed's instinctive match toughness & android-like play in tie-breakers that forced it to 5. Muzza essentially tore Fed a new one today in terms of shot-making & all court play. Great to see.
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fed will never retire while he's still winning slams and making the last 4 easy ffs
and he'll continue to make semis at least for a few years yet |
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End of the day, Murray still isn't there. Federer was well below his best, yet he pushed Murray to 5.
Murray still mentally inept in the tight points in sets, both the breakers and when he served for it at 6-5. Murray only won the 5th so easily due to Federer's lack of fitness, or whatever. His level just wasn't there for him in the 5th. When Nadal does eventually come back, Murray will then return to having to beat two out of three in slams, rather than one out of two. (Albeit, he has had to beat two out of two this slam.) It is up to Federer, he can quite easily sustain a top 4 ranking for the next 3/4 years as the level of #5 and below is nowhere near the level of the top 4 (Nadal included in top 4, not Ferrer). It is just wether Federer is happy with getting to QF/SF in majors and winning minor events, or wether he really thinks that he has a chance to hang on until Rio. IMO, he will always have an outside chance at going all the way again, as he goes through the first four rounds so easily. |
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or whatever
![]() fed always bottles it in the 5th and muz was hardly inept at 6-5 federer played unreal returns |
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Murray won fair and square. Fed is not in his prime and he didn't play anything close to resembling that very prime. Murray has choke, a lot more then Djokovic. Nadal is injured/ recovering from injury/ prone to injury
things as they is ^ move along |
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welshie but how fit is rafa? i dont really no to be honest. if he aint fit rog is no 3 clearly
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I think Nadal has been wise coming back on clay, see how his knee and fitness is on his favored surface and take it from there.
He would then only have IW and Miami before the clay swing and then Wimbledon. I think we will see him back to his best around about RG. Don't think he can compete with Djoko/Murray on hard anymore but clay and grass he will still be challenging IMO. |
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HTEHB - he was inept at 6-5 30-15, the serves were coming in around 80mph... I could hit dominating returns, with the serve at that pace.
He had been serving great throughout the match on a whole and then come 6-5 after coming back from 4-1 down he just choked like his old self. Had Federer of had more in the tank, I really do believe he would've pushed Murray to the point where he choked again. As always, this is all hypothetical... |
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welshie nadal will strugle on grass also tho. hardcourts r a no no with his knees but so is grass
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Welshie5121 25 Jan 13 14:13 Joined: 09 Dec 10 | Topic/replies: 4,106 | Blogger: Welshie5121's blog
End of the day, Murray still isn't there. Federer was well below his best, yet he pushed Murray to 5 let us know when he does get there won't you welshie. if 3 slam finals on the trot isn't "getting there" then very few have ever made it. by the way where exactly is "there???" mind you this comes from a poster who once told the forum that serena williams would be ranked about 50 on the mens tour so not really an opinion to take too much notice of. |
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can anyone please confirm what were the lowest odds on Fed during the entire 5 sets?
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2.22
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cheers
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Welshie. Ifs and buts; ifs and buts. .........
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It is up to Federer, he can quite easily sustain a top 4 ranking for the next 3/4 years as the level of #5 and below is nowhere near the level of the top 4 (Nadal included in top 4, not Ferrer). It is just wether Federer is happy with getting to QF/SF in majors and winning minor events, or wether he really thinks that he has a chance to hang on until Rio.
+ fed is making 50+ million a year of sponsors:) |
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Mugray won because Fed had a tough QF, while DelPo fell to Chadry, if he had to play 5 sets in QF as well it could (and probably would) have gone the other way.
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no
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typical that a whole host of excuses get made for fed when he loses.
is murray entitled to make excuses for the final? fair play to him that he didn't even when they were suggested to him. |