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the easiest route to semifinals seems to be for andy murray.
to win the tournament
murray 50
ferrer 36
gasquet 200
most likely andy murray will defeat Gasquet and that will set up a quarters meeting with david ferrer, and all said and done Murray will be a favourite to win that match and will book a place in semis.
Taking a punt on murray at 50 is not a bad option.here is what I did my liability on this market is 1000£ and profits for both andy murray and gasquet is 33000£. I feel andy murray will win against richard gasquet how ever to eliminate the risk gasquet comes at a handy odds of 200. So no harm in buying him too. The good thing is that this will set up a meeting with ferer and again I feel andy murray is a favourite here. How ever at this time you can lay him too or do a set betting in favour of Ferer. Usually this has good odds ie
ferrer to win 3-0 odds 6
ferrer to win 3-1 odds 5
ferrer to win 3-2 odds 9 or 10.
now you can put 300£ on first 2 options and 100 on 3rd option, if Murray wins you loose 700£ but your man is still safe and profit is still 33000£ with a liability of 1000£ on that market, or you can sit and wait because most likely David ferrer will loose and Murray will be safely into the semis with Nadal. Now here is the big thing. Now 2 things will happen
Murrays rate will drop alarmingly at this point from 50 to 20 or something like that. You can either decide to lay him in this market or better still to make more profit go fully in favour of rafa with out any fear of loosing. At this point i will bet 4000£ on rafa nadal to win with out any worries. if rafa starts at odds of 1.2 or 1.25 you can atleast cover some of your 1000£ liability or what ever you decide to punt. How ever if the match gets tough and rafas odds shoot upto 1.5 then the chances are with a bet of 4000£ you will get 2000£ that covers ur 1000£ liability on the winner market. Or better still bet on rafa to win 3-0 and odds will be better like 4 and 3-1 will be like 6 etc. That way with a buffer of 33000£ even if u bet heavily on Nadal to win you are not worried as in case murray wins u will still have 29000 thousand and im sure in the finals u can make more than 10K if you are smart. How ever I feel Murrays ride will come to an end when he takes on Rafa. bet 4000£ in favour of rafa on open market. and lay Murray too on the winners market. Remember that at semifinals stage Murrays odds will drop alarmingly from 50 to 20 odd. so it will be best to then go fully for rafa and u can cover ur 1000£ liability. guys please read this and if you have any suggestions kindly let me know?????
to win the tournament
murray 50
ferrer 36
gasquet 200
most likely andy murray will defeat Gasquet and that will set up a quarters meeting with david ferrer, and all said and done Murray will be a favourite to win that match and will book a place in semis.
Taking a punt on murray at 50 is not a bad option.here is what I did my liability on this market is 1000£ and profits for both andy murray and gasquet is 33000£. I feel andy murray will win against richard gasquet how ever to eliminate the risk gasquet comes at a handy odds of 200. So no harm in buying him too. The good thing is that this will set up a meeting with ferer and again I feel andy murray is a favourite here. How ever at this time you can lay him too or do a set betting in favour of Ferer. Usually this has good odds ie
ferrer to win 3-0 odds 6
ferrer to win 3-1 odds 5
ferrer to win 3-2 odds 9 or 10.
now you can put 300£ on first 2 options and 100 on 3rd option, if Murray wins you loose 700£ but your man is still safe and profit is still 33000£ with a liability of 1000£ on that market, or you can sit and wait because most likely David ferrer will loose and Murray will be safely into the semis with Nadal. Now here is the big thing. Now 2 things will happen
Murrays rate will drop alarmingly at this point from 50 to 20 or something like that. You can either decide to lay him in this market or better still to make more profit go fully in favour of rafa with out any fear of loosing. At this point i will bet 4000£ on rafa nadal to win with out any worries. if rafa starts at odds of 1.2 or 1.25 you can atleast cover some of your 1000£ liability or what ever you decide to punt. How ever if the match gets tough and rafas odds shoot upto 1.5 then the chances are with a bet of 4000£ you will get 2000£ that covers ur 1000£ liability on the winner market. Or better still bet on rafa to win 3-0 and odds will be better like 4 and 3-1 will be like 6 etc. That way with a buffer of 33000£ even if u bet heavily on Nadal to win you are not worried as in case murray wins u will still have 29000 thousand and im sure in the finals u can make more than 10K if you are smart. How ever I feel Murrays ride will come to an end when he takes on Rafa. bet 4000£ in favour of rafa on open market. and lay Murray too on the winners market. Remember that at semifinals stage Murrays odds will drop alarmingly from 50 to 20 odd. so it will be best to then go fully for rafa and u can cover ur 1000£ liability. guys please read this and if you have any suggestions kindly let me know?????
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couldnt be arsed to read all that but:
a) murray won't beat ferrer b)murray might not beat gasquet hth |
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I agree with Morgan... specially for the non-reading, for the Ferrer and for the Gasquet parts...
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gasquet is covered and the profit on him is 33000£ too. if murray looses gasquet advances and then bet heavily against gasquet when he faces ferrer :)
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no chance for mugray
Gasgay will beat him Ferrer will beat him Rafa, Nole and Fed will beat him give up you crazy british people |
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sifron please check the odds Murray is favourite against gasquet but GASQUET IS ALSO COVERERED AND PROFIT ON HIM IS ALSO 33000£. and mind u sifon Nole and fed cant beat him because they are not in murrays part of the draw. Either Nole or fed will be eliminated before the finals. There is a realistic chance for murray to make it to the semis.
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Murrey the dark IDIOT and MUG...mate the Scot is simply a loser
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vector my advise is to green as soon as simple.... if your bank is that great there many more ways to make 1.00 pounds easier and faster tham that.... Good Luck
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You do make incorrect assumptions vector, not sure what's your intention here. But you can't say Andy will be favourite in a matchup with Ferrer because he won't, plus you're assuming some set odds there doubtful as well.
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better off investing in the ladies winner market. only case murray can win if the top 3 pulls out. As long as one of them is in it, he has close to 0 chance of winning french open, he has better chances in us open and aus open, but bottled in the finals.
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better off investing in bernie madoff or the solar powered torch
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as mogan says cudnt b arsed reading it either. and ferrer will destroy murray IF he beats gasgay
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Murray will not make the semi. Even if he was 100% fit, he just can't play on clay.
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Murray is always a dark horse and he will never win a slam.
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Agreed Crowseye,although a fine player and the best we have produced in decades cant see him ever getting it done on the big occasion and with fine young players coming through his chances have probably came and gone,still no need for the disrepect to Andy by some on this forum in general and this thread in particular.
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well guys as it proved Murray hammered gasquet. If Murray performs to his best Gasquet is no match for him. Ferrer will loose to him too. and the odds will drop as low as 20 odds
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then will be the time to back rafa all out
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ok guys 33K profit as a buffer. going to use some of it against Ferrer. I can freely bet on David ferrer to win 3-1 atleast a 1000K. and alsoon 3-2, because ferrer cant beat him 3-0 thats out of question. If ferrer wins i get atleast 4000k, if he looses Murray is in semis and his odds in the market will drop to 20s as i said. then with 33k buffer lay him against nadal and also bet heavily in favour of nadal. I wish some of you would have taken me seriously and not been arrogant about murrays reaslistic chances for the semis.
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Just to make it clear to some of the stupid comments Nole and federer will play each other if they reach the semis so they will not face murray. I never said Murray will reach finals he will probably make it to the semis and with a 33k profit margin buffer you can safely bet against murray when he faces ferrer or nadal. Because that way u will feel safe even if by chance murray happens to beat ferrer u still have that 33k and odds market would have dropped to 20 from 50 or 60.
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even if i cash out now im green :) but i like murrays chances against ferrer but going to spend 500£ on ferrer 3-1 and 3-2 win just in case. if ferrer wins i win more than 1000k liability on winners market its not a loss
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this 33k only allows me to safely bet on ferrer with out fear that he might loose, get ur thinking caps on.
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Vector...
what if ferrer wins 3-0 ?? and thats totally possible ... and what do you mean '1000K' ? and '4000K'? these sums you refer to are 1 million and 4 million , Im not sure about ur figures vector , ur reasoning sound feasible , but Im not sure you've expressed it very clearly , good luck though |
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Murray has done well so but you're deluded if you think he will drop to 20 if he beats Ferrer. Nadal started the tournament odds on for a reason and is going to take most the market at 1.36 - 1.4 at the semi stage.
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so far
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listen yomomma i never said murray will beat nadal for the starters. but can you safely bet 4000k on nadal winning with out even a slightest fear of loosing ????? unless you know you have backing of 33k.
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I think he'll be about 30 if he beats Ferrer. It's all good as long as you can make some profit though.
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in sports anything can happen. I remember Nadal getting knocked out by Ljubicic in french open and consequently federer won that french open. Similarly chelsea won the champions league.
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the idea behind taking murray at 50 was just to act as a buffer. So you can bet freely on nadal or ferrer to make some profit and cover the liability of 1000k
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30 for some one in slam semis is too high. preferably 25-30 but you may be right still better than being 50.
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Nadal's only lost to Soderling when he had an injury. He's a shoe in to win it again. It's going to be 8 appearances and 7 wins, nobody playing well enough to trouble him.
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sorry yes my wrong it was soderling
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i got confused between soderling and ljubicic
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Djokovic backers must be seething he's gone he wrong way, from 4.3 to 5.5
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but its not 100% nadal will win. most of us will not bet 5000£ on nadal to win just because of a slight fear that murray can upset him and murray can on a given day. only way to bet heavily on nadal is when u have the comfort that even if he losses u have 29k still for the finals to play with.
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i gather its wrong to take djocker or roger at 5 and 14 as one of them will not make it.
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but world no 4 at 50 thats a good one only to trade at semis
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some people if they were lucky when murray was about to pull out when he did that injury act could have had taken him at 400. :( i didnt
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to much of a risk to back djocker at only 4. because he can loose to tsonga on a given day and then he faces federer in the semis. The easiest rout to semis was for murray. betting on tsonga and delpo also not a great idea as they have federer and djocker in the way
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Good luck with it. Match with Ferrer will probably be a close one.
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