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the easiest route to semifinals seems to be for andy murray.
to win the tournament
murray 50
ferrer 36
gasquet 200
most likely andy murray will defeat Gasquet and that will set up a quarters meeting with david ferrer, and all said and done Murray will be a favourite to win that match and will book a place in semis.
Taking a punt on murray at 50 is not a bad option.here is what I did my liability on this market is 1000£ and profits for both andy murray and gasquet is 33000£. I feel andy murray will win against richard gasquet how ever to eliminate the risk gasquet comes at a handy odds of 200. So no harm in buying him too. The good thing is that this will set up a meeting with ferer and again I feel andy murray is a favourite here. How ever at this time you can lay him too or do a set betting in favour of Ferer. Usually this has good odds ie
ferrer to win 3-0 odds 6
ferrer to win 3-1 odds 5
ferrer to win 3-2 odds 9 or 10.
now you can put 300£ on first 2 options and 100 on 3rd option, if Murray wins you loose 700£ but your man is still safe and profit is still 33000£ with a liability of 1000£ on that market, or you can sit and wait because most likely David ferrer will loose and Murray will be safely into the semis with Nadal. Now here is the big thing. Now 2 things will happen
Murrays rate will drop alarmingly at this point from 50 to 20 or something like that. You can either decide to lay him in this market or better still to make more profit go fully in favour of rafa with out any fear of loosing. At this point i will bet 4000£ on rafa nadal to win with out any worries. if rafa starts at odds of 1.2 or 1.25 you can atleast cover some of your 1000£ liability or what ever you decide to punt. How ever if the match gets tough and rafas odds shoot upto 1.5 then the chances are with a bet of 4000£ you will get 2000£ that covers ur 1000£ liability on the winner market. Or better still bet on rafa to win 3-0 and odds will be better like 4 and 3-1 will be like 6 etc. That way with a buffer of 33000£ even if u bet heavily on Nadal to win you are not worried as in case murray wins u will still have 29000 thousand and im sure in the finals u can make more than 10K if you are smart. How ever I feel Murrays ride will come to an end when he takes on Rafa. bet 4000£ in favour of rafa on open market. and lay Murray too on the winners market. Remember that at semifinals stage Murrays odds will drop alarmingly from 50 to 20 odd. so it will be best to then go fully for rafa and u can cover ur 1000£ liability. guys please read this and if you have any suggestions kindly let me know?????
to win the tournament
murray 50
ferrer 36
gasquet 200
most likely andy murray will defeat Gasquet and that will set up a quarters meeting with david ferrer, and all said and done Murray will be a favourite to win that match and will book a place in semis.
Taking a punt on murray at 50 is not a bad option.here is what I did my liability on this market is 1000£ and profits for both andy murray and gasquet is 33000£. I feel andy murray will win against richard gasquet how ever to eliminate the risk gasquet comes at a handy odds of 200. So no harm in buying him too. The good thing is that this will set up a meeting with ferer and again I feel andy murray is a favourite here. How ever at this time you can lay him too or do a set betting in favour of Ferer. Usually this has good odds ie
ferrer to win 3-0 odds 6
ferrer to win 3-1 odds 5
ferrer to win 3-2 odds 9 or 10.
now you can put 300£ on first 2 options and 100 on 3rd option, if Murray wins you loose 700£ but your man is still safe and profit is still 33000£ with a liability of 1000£ on that market, or you can sit and wait because most likely David ferrer will loose and Murray will be safely into the semis with Nadal. Now here is the big thing. Now 2 things will happen
Murrays rate will drop alarmingly at this point from 50 to 20 or something like that. You can either decide to lay him in this market or better still to make more profit go fully in favour of rafa with out any fear of loosing. At this point i will bet 4000£ on rafa nadal to win with out any worries. if rafa starts at odds of 1.2 or 1.25 you can atleast cover some of your 1000£ liability or what ever you decide to punt. How ever if the match gets tough and rafas odds shoot upto 1.5 then the chances are with a bet of 4000£ you will get 2000£ that covers ur 1000£ liability on the winner market. Or better still bet on rafa to win 3-0 and odds will be better like 4 and 3-1 will be like 6 etc. That way with a buffer of 33000£ even if u bet heavily on Nadal to win you are not worried as in case murray wins u will still have 29000 thousand and im sure in the finals u can make more than 10K if you are smart. How ever I feel Murrays ride will come to an end when he takes on Rafa. bet 4000£ in favour of rafa on open market. and lay Murray too on the winners market. Remember that at semifinals stage Murrays odds will drop alarmingly from 50 to 20 odd. so it will be best to then go fully for rafa and u can cover ur 1000£ liability. guys please read this and if you have any suggestions kindly let me know?????
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ok guys 33K profit as a buffer. going to use some of it against Ferrer. I can freely bet on David ferrer to win 3-1 atleast a 1000K. and alsoon 3-2, because ferrer cant beat him 3-0 thats out of question. If ferrer wins i get atleast 4000k, if he looses Murray is in semis and his odds in the market will drop to 20s as i said. then with 33k buffer lay him against nadal and also bet heavily in favour of nadal. I wish some of you would have taken me seriously and not been arrogant about murrays reaslistic chances for the semis.
Just to make it clear to some of the stupid comments Nole and federer will play each other if they reach the semis so they will not face murray. I never said Murray will reach finals he will probably make it to the semis and with a 33k profit margin buffer you can safely bet against murray when he faces ferrer or nadal. Because that way u will feel safe even if by chance murray happens to beat ferrer u still have that 33k and odds market would have dropped to 20 from 50 or 60.
even if i cash out now im green :) but i like murrays chances against ferrer but going to spend 500£ on ferrer 3-1 and 3-2 win just in case. if ferrer wins i win more than 1000k liability on winners market its not a loss
this 33k only allows me to safely bet on ferrer with out fear that he might loose, get ur thinking caps on.
Vector...
what if ferrer wins 3-0 ??
and thats totally possible ...
and what do you mean '1000K' ? and '4000K'?
these sums you refer to are 1 million and 4 million , Im not sure about ur figures vector , ur reasoning sound feasible , but Im not sure you've expressed it very clearly , good luck though
what if ferrer wins 3-0 ??
and thats totally possible ...
and what do you mean '1000K' ? and '4000K'?
these sums you refer to are 1 million and 4 million , Im not sure about ur figures vector , ur reasoning sound feasible , but Im not sure you've expressed it very clearly , good luck though
Murray has done well so but you're deluded if you think he will drop to 20 if he beats Ferrer. Nadal started the tournament odds on for a reason and is going to take most the market at 1.36 - 1.4 at the semi stage.
listen yomomma i never said murray will beat nadal for the starters. but can you safely bet 4000k on nadal winning with out even a slightest fear of loosing ????? unless you know you have backing of 33k.
I think he'll be about 30 if he beats Ferrer. It's all good as long as you can make some profit though.
in sports anything can happen. I remember Nadal getting knocked out by Ljubicic in french open and consequently federer won that french open. Similarly chelsea won the champions league.
the idea behind taking murray at 50 was just to act as a buffer. So you can bet freely on nadal or ferrer to make some profit and cover the liability of 1000k
30 for some one in slam semis is too high. preferably 25-30 but you may be right still better than being 50.
Nadal's only lost to Soderling when he had an injury. He's a shoe in to win it again. It's going to be 8 appearances and 7 wins, nobody playing well enough to trouble him.
Djokovic backers must be seething he's gone he wrong way, from 4.3 to 5.5
but its not 100% nadal will win. most of us will not bet 5000£ on nadal to win just because of a slight fear that murray can upset him and murray can on a given day. only way to bet heavily on nadal is when u have the comfort that even if he losses u have 29k still for the finals to play with.
i gather its wrong to take djocker or roger at 5 and 14 as one of them will not make it.
but world no 4 at 50 thats a good one only to trade at semis
some people if they were lucky when murray was about to pull out when he did that injury act could have had taken him at 400. :( i didnt
to much of a risk to back djocker at only 4. because he can loose to tsonga on a given day and then he faces federer in the semis. The easiest rout to semis was for murray. betting on tsonga and delpo also not a great idea as they have federer and djocker in the way
Good luck with it. Match with Ferrer will probably be a close one.
Murray will loose 90% of the times against nadal but not before his rate drops to 25-30. plus also bet freely against him when he faces ferrer and nadal as u have 33k cushion well not for people who buy him now. David ferrer is in great form yet to drop a set but im sure he will drop one against Murray. so
ferrer 3-1 odds will be 5 or something
ferrer 3-2 will be 9 or 10
just put 300£ on 3-1 and u make 2000£ if murray looses u loose ur 1000£ liability on winners market but u get 2000£. how ever if murray wins his odds will be 30 odd for the semis and at that time u can lay him and bet against him heavily in favour of nadal and if he wins like chelsea won champions league u have 23,0000 odd pounds to play with in the finals.
ferrer 3-1 odds will be 5 or something
ferrer 3-2 will be 9 or 10
just put 300£ on 3-1 and u make 2000£ if murray looses u loose ur 1000£ liability on winners market but u get 2000£. how ever if murray wins his odds will be 30 odd for the semis and at that time u can lay him and bet against him heavily in favour of nadal and if he wins like chelsea won champions league u have 23,0000 odd pounds to play with in the finals.
people who are backing tsonga, delpo, federer, djocker are playing with too much risk thats a very tough draw as u can already see djockers odds went higher.
Murray v Ferrer is too close to call. ie. Either player on current form can turn it on. 1.61 is way too short. When play goes with serve in 1st set, as I think it will for a few games, that 1.61 will lenghthen and business can be done to make a green scene. Good punting my friends.
well some of these matches are fixed too. they surprise you when you least expect it. eg Nadal vs djokovic australian open final nadal taking it to 3-2 but in the game it looked like djokovic could beat him 3-0. Then just to add the thrill nadal breaks djocker in the final set only to give it back in the next game when he was serving for the match. the croud realised it too and started booing as it was clear djocker lost his serve on purpose and then nadal did same the very next game.
tsonga vs wawrinka was a fix.
tsonga vs wawrinka was a fix.
shut the fu ck up. why would nadal throw away a slam and chance of becoming greatest ever with his record
listen the way djocker was playing in the finals he could have beaten the crap out of nadal. for betting market and entertainment value they fix it to make it look not one sided affair. this australian open was a clear evidence see the recording of the match bhoys.
it will be clear that djocker gave up his serve in the third set and will be equally clear nadal when he was serving for the match gave it back u can be ur own judge but please watch the damn video, may be on youtube
they tend to fix a game when one player is obviously stronger. but just to add thrill and for betting odds they do this
recent match final rome masters fedrer vs djokovic was a late fix. federer was being hammered by djocker so much that federers odds went to 80
and that crucial break back from him in the second set sent the odds from 80 to 3.
and that crucial break back from him in the second set sent the odds from 80 to 3.
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they tend to fix a game when one player is obviously stronger. but just to add thrill and for betting odds they do this
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they tend to fix a game when one player is obviously stronger. but just to add thrill and for betting odds they do this
No
boy get of the drugs. wawa was crying today leaving court
wawa can cry all he wants but that exchange of breaks should not have happened
it was a value match for punting. PLEASE GUYS WATCH THE FINAL MOMENTS OF THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN FINAL 2012 when nadal breaks him and gives it back the very next game, its obviously fixed. Nadal lost the match when he was 2-0 down and if it had been 3-0 it would have been boring entertainment for crowd, then the fixing comes into play.
Hi Bhoys, hope you are fine.
Could you talk to Millie please and ask her if
we could have a live debate on SSN regarding the
best fixers in ATP tennis
Could you talk to Millie please and ask her if
we could have a live debate on SSN regarding the
best fixers in ATP tennis
i wudnt let this clown near millie. seems dangerous. so mate i suppose fed v potty us open was fixed? fed battered him 2-0 then potty won 3-2?
it was a value match for punting. PLEASE GUYS WATCH THE FINAL MOMENTS OF THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN FINAL 2012 when nadal breaks him and gives it back the very next game, its obviously fixed. Nadal lost the match when he was 2-0 down and if it had been 3-0 it would have been boring entertainment for crowd, then the fixing comes into play.
This is ridiculous
This is ridiculous
always note in a grandslam final or semis when one player is looking totally out of sorts expect a twist. example
US OPEN 2011 djocker vs federer
US OPEN 2011 nadal vs djocker
AUS OPEN 2012 djocker vs nadal.
US OPEN 2011 djocker vs federer
US OPEN 2011 nadal vs djocker
AUS OPEN 2012 djocker vs nadal.
Just went to the kitchen and opened my fridge.
Only one bottle of Stella left.
Can't be
It's a fix
Only one bottle of Stella left.
Can't be
It's a fix
mate thats 3 finals that cud go either way. its no suprise theres twists and turns
nadal serving for the match in australian open finals look at what he did
i remember wat he did i had him outright he missed the pass at the net to the right by inches
vector 99 you should be locked up for accusing Federer and Nadal of fixing a tennis match. I bet your opening post is all nonsense aswell and you probably had £5 on Murray.
wawa was crying because he fixed the game and tsonga was supposed to lose but tsonga didnt listen to the fixers? that sounds interesting
What a big baby Wawrinka is didn't know he started crying.
yes i did, he was carrying his bags and wiping tears, he was just outplayed by tsonga, people who lost money on wawa would whine about fixing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRHhlWMUeBo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&... watch this video of the australian open final from 1:05 hours onwards. djocker is serving for the match....
talking about exchange of breaks, today mornings tipsarevic broke almagro then almagro broke back tips, from there on almagro was favorite till GSM, did they do that for better odds too?
you sure the tsonga - wawa match was a fix? I thought it was only GS-finals
would make more sense
would make more sense
thats what vector says, i dont believe it.. its very usual to get broken and breaking back in during the initial moments of a match
ok this video from that 1.05 hours onwards was real tennis, i just wanted some people to see that now we need to go back on this video to see the fixing i will see it and tell u from where it starts and u can tell that this 2 breaks were fixed.
watch the exchange of breaks from 0:26 mins onwards its a clear fix
fixing is normal, every sport has its fixes. its us punters who inspire them to fix matches
thats ridiculas no harm to u. nadal worked novak hard to break him there
for 2 breaks and it has huge impacts on the odds market i remember at that point djockers odds went as high as 8
but look at the response from nadal wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wont expect this from some one who wants to add another slam
ooopssssssss wrong video let me see all this tennis was normal tennis may be it was the fourth set let me check that and post the video the tennis standards in this set were fine and up the mark
the biggest fix of the year to me seemed verdasco vs nadal where nadal was 5-2 and was serving for match, then suddenly he throws the game away and verdasco wins 7-5 lol!
exactly right max demon that was a big fix and then nadal screwed big time it was obvious he was not even attempting to get the balls across the net
yeah, just watched its highlights on youtube and nadal is just hitting ue's on purpose and getting aced.. then he blames the surface
these kind of fixes can give u good money if u pick them up. US OPEN 2011 Nadal being hammered by djokovic in the finals so much so that the odds went upto 30. Annabel crofts pre match prediction was djokovic to win 3-0 but she used the word be very cautious as to give a hint something might change. now at the very crucial juncture nadal some how breaks djokovic feigns injury and all of a sudden the odds that were 30 for nadal dropped to only 2. In big games slam finals or semis if one guy is loosing miserably expect a twist as these can win u big money you just have to be brave enough to put some money on these odds.Rome masters final recently federers odds went as high as 80 and he looked very clumsy and totally out played by djokovic but at very last moment the crucial juncture having played miserably all match he got a break back to send us into tie breaker. odds went from 80 to 3.
another recent match between tsonga and nadal where tsonga looked very clumsy and totally out of it so much so that his odds went to 40 and again at crucial juncture when nadal was serving for the match plays like he is in the form of his life and takes the game to win the set in tie breaker. its not a coincidence that you play bad through out a match and suddenly at the very last moment something happens as if the magic wand has been waved and a different player emerges. these games are high value fixes. good thing though is when 2 good players are playing and this happens the man with very high odds that went upto 30 or 40s or even 80s in federers case, tsongas case they will bring the odds down to 2 or 3 but i have yet to see them win. so either way when the odds suddenly drop from 50 to 2 or three when 2 good ranked playes play the man with higher odds will almost certainly loose the game later after a small heroic act which was just to give us some money. I like these games as its a 2 way win situation. watch out for slam semis if one player is loosing miserably expect a twist for sure.
another recent match between tsonga and nadal where tsonga looked very clumsy and totally out of it so much so that his odds went to 40 and again at crucial juncture when nadal was serving for the match plays like he is in the form of his life and takes the game to win the set in tie breaker. its not a coincidence that you play bad through out a match and suddenly at the very last moment something happens as if the magic wand has been waved and a different player emerges. these games are high value fixes. good thing though is when 2 good players are playing and this happens the man with very high odds that went upto 30 or 40s or even 80s in federers case, tsongas case they will bring the odds down to 2 or 3 but i have yet to see them win. so either way when the odds suddenly drop from 50 to 2 or three when 2 good ranked playes play the man with higher odds will almost certainly loose the game later after a small heroic act which was just to give us some money. I like these games as its a 2 way win situation. watch out for slam semis if one player is loosing miserably expect a twist for sure.
max demon can u paste the link of that video please, its a definite fix no doubt about it.
iremember that match verdasco vs nadal as i won 800£ with it just betting 100£ at that exact moment. I remember that verdasco looked towards his coach and nodded when he was 5-2 down it might be in the video. and there the game changed.
these matches add to crowd entertainment as crowd want to see a good game and no one pays money to come and watch a broing one sided final of a grandslam so if in finals a guy is 2-0 down to nadal and looks completely wothless and their odds jump to 30 or something watch out could be a time to punt at this exact moment u loose 100 but u win big if suddenly the game changes and in most cases it changes in a slam final, suddenly the player that was hammering the other one to all parts of the ground will look a little shaky and clumsy while the guy that was down and out will grow claws out of no where....
Jun 4, 2012 -- 10:43PM, vector_99 wrote:
it was a value match for punting. PLEASE GUYS WATCH THE FINAL MOMENTS OF THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN FINAL 2012 when nadal breaks him and gives it back the very next game, its obviously fixed. Nadal lost the match when he was 2-0 down and if it had been 3-0 it would have been boring entertainment for crowd, then the fixing comes into play.
I remember rafa wining first set at Ao 2012..what about those 3-0 rafa roger fo finals??man, get a life
its worth putting 100£ on very high odds in these high profile games most likely things can change. if u loose u loose 100 if u win u can win big.
i prefer to spend my money on loose women than lose it all on betfair .The tennis cartel is not very loose with its ways and often when you 2nd guess it you lose.sometimes loose lips cause the cartel to change plans and it may seem like a double double cross but its only when they think you know that the double double comes into play ,often a double double feels like a triple but its only a double and you lose .
loose losers always lose .
loose losers always lose .
too many conspiranoics here.. tennis is this way, i doubt there are fixes in the top ten and in the finals.
and i believe in ferrer will beat murray!
and i believe in ferrer will beat murray!
Djokovic backers must be seething he's gone he wrong way, from 4.3 to 5.5
it's much worse than that, some of us lumped on Joker at 3.4
it's much worse than that, some of us lumped on Joker at 3.4
Vector is about to make a few look stupid here Maybe they should have read his post. I thought it was smart
I got some Murray at 250 200 and 150 during first round And they way he played yday only Pothead can stop him getting to final IMO
I got some Murray at 250 200 and 150 during first round And they way he played yday only Pothead can stop him getting to final IMO
errr jermaine, how bout Rafa stopping murray getting to the final ? assuming he beats ferrer
Pothead ( del potro ) is in the top half of the draw
Pothead ( del potro ) is in the top half of the draw
Jun 5, 2012 -- 12:45AM, vector_99 wrote:
these matches add to crowd entertainment as crowd want to see a good game and no one pays money to come and watch a broing one sided final of a grandslam so if in finals a guy is 2-0 down to nadal and looks completely wothless and their odds jump to 30 or something watch out could be a time to punt at this exact moment u loose 100 but u win big if suddenly the game changes and in most cases it changes in a slam final, suddenly the player that was hammering the other one to all parts of the ground will look a little shaky and clumsy while the guy that was down and out will grow claws out of no where....
great thread vector. I totally agree with you re the dynamics in finals/great sporting occasions of all kinds; tennis, boxing, football, rugby etc etc. Yes finals can be one sided but when the world is watching and the event becomes a classic then the dynamic will switch several times in play. Trading opportunities in running are like taking candy from a baby at times.
Yes George I have got my days mixed up I admit
But I dont think rafa has done much he got his usual pass to the quarters and tsonga may shock him
del boy does look good to me tho and will have a few tricks for the goat today Might be Rope a goat day
But I dont think rafa has done much he got his usual pass to the quarters and tsonga may shock him
del boy does look good to me tho and will have a few tricks for the goat today Might be Rope a goat day
agree with the OP but the market dont three games in and his price has moved just 3 clicks 
but dat 1st game did yeild 500/1 ,hopefully he can give the haters another fright and put the funeral celebrations off for another set or two .
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but dat 1st game did yeild 500/1 ,hopefully he can give the haters another fright and put the funeral celebrations off for another set or two . .
wasting of pixelles talkin about the broken Empire warrior!!
Murray is Scot by all mean. He cannot wait for moment when Scotland regains the independency...after 300 years of slavery!!
Go Muzza!!
Murray is Scot by all mean. He cannot wait for moment when Scotland regains the independency...after 300 years of slavery!!
Go Muzza!!
no idea what you're trying to say.
Say it in English, please.
Go Muzza!!!! Go Scotland!
You know when Murray wins, the British papers headline: "Great win for British tennis!"
When Murray loses, the headline in the same British papers:
"The Scot lost again"!!
Say it in English, please.
Go Muzza!!!! Go Scotland!
You know when Murray wins, the British papers headline: "Great win for British tennis!"
When Murray loses, the headline in the same British papers:
"The Scot lost again"!!
Thats funny yyyy, because this is usually the way the british media handles it. Successful players are british and those british players who are not successful are from some country around england - and this principle is not confined to successes in sport only I guess.
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