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apparently she can't win SPOTY coz she didn't win a gold on her own
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5/2 shot at 36.0 and not being taken?
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I'll leave it up there if any takers.
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sports personality of the year, based on your achievements for that particular year
its fecking immaterial who won what or what they won |
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Taken, hope by you army - fair play.
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as long as you achieved something, its about the journey
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brushy took it, coz i smell something
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Have a shower then :)
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As that was popular, added another tenner at 25.0
your argument convincing me, slightly. |
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Actually that's a bit skinny, so prepared to go to 30
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Star Sports obv listening to you army - they still have her at 9/1 for SPOTY
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Were you backing bellingham at 10 after the euros army?
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your're gonna have a very squeaky bum come the awards if you keep laying her stu, for one simple reason.
she won welsh spoty last year, so many welsh gamblers will expect her to progress to the main award after such a great games. She will get backed in no matter what, once a campaign starts she'll go very short. |
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Happy to give another 10 at 30, it's there...
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Someone bit, so fair play whoever - hope you played army.
I'm not adding anymore at present, it's too long to wait. |
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I was originally getting on Luke after the euro's and Olympics to see where his price was at, its actually decent but i think there is too many doubts about him making the list.
Raducanu won it last games year, will the bbc risk that again ? They are not scared of making tough controversial decisions, whether its them or the panel. Would seem harsh to dump young spoty on him, that award is for upcoming kids you've hardly heard of and Luke has transformed darts and the adult world of darts. Which is his only positive imo to help him get on the list, the fact he's competing against adults at the highest levels of his sport. Unfortunately that sport is not covered by the Illuminati and that is what the 17 year old is up against, the bbc do seem to like him though, following his progression. With the bbc's track record of leaving massive names off the list over the years, its a total coin flip whether he gets on it imo. Keely's price will always be odds on regardless of him making the list coz she will get massive media coverage on the run imo, most likely a documentary at some point, too boost her profile as i think Luke is more known than she is tbh. She'll get the kitchen sink VT on the night as well no doubt, so i think you will still get some value on Luke even if you wait till the actual night or whether he makes the list or not. conclusion is his price his great, you're just gambling he makes the list if you back him now. Its factored in by the looks of it, i think your'll still get 3+ if he makes the list. Thats the 1st hurdle, getting on the list..the next one will be getting men to vote for him, if they do he wins easily. I just can't see enough women voting for him as right now most women are doing right by supporting other women. Joey Barton fall out still in effect no doubt, they was already at there height and he just pushed the agenda higher. last hurdle for luke is no personality whatsoever, he's terrible in interviews with one sentence answers followed by a deathly silence lol and looking 35 is also a big negative. Hardly reminds you of your young son, more like the one who's moved out that drinks and eats kebabs every weekend. Good luck if backing him as of now, way to many negatives for me verses an Olympian |
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He has 0 of the classic (I think GBs term) 'moist vote' - unlike some other male winners in SPOTY
No women will be fancying him in any way - maybe to mother him, but he loses some of that even as he looks 36! |
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you can back luke at 6/1 who is not even guaranteed to make the list, then has big hurdles to overcome even if he does
or you can back Emma at 66/1 who is guaranteed to make the list and has a whole country who will get behind her ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Wouldn't rely on any wales vote - Alun Wynn Jones (greatest ever wales rugby player) couldn't even get a top 3 vote from them lot.
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...and that was RUGBY!
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Lateysha would have pissed up though ;-) :(
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helps if your're liked stu, and female. didn't you know the landscape has changed, spoty is now a female magazine show
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Lynne Davies not winning it for Wales after winning Olympic Gold was bad enough, but still not winning it after what he went on to achieve on Superstars was down right criminal
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I’d guess BBC will ask Luke if he wants to be 3rd at best in Spoty or 1st Young Spoty. If he’s not in Young Spoty it would be a farce competition.
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They'll just ask the 6 people on the independent panel, and they'll say, yes he's the biggest sporting story in Britain this year, covering the most column inches, of course he's on the shortlist
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i think he'd be closer to 2/1 if he was a cert for the list brushy
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doubt's are creeping in and the bbc are far from trustworthy to guarantee anyone being on it, apart from keely and ems
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Not being as clued up on the politics of the award as a few on here I've not understood this shortlist question stuff.
Why isn't it a simple case of, is he a star of his game, has he taken his game by storm, has he impacted outside of his sport, is there a unique aspect of his achievement...where's the debate, isn't these all the things that get you on the list...you know...excellence!! |
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And we know the BBC like him
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He has a clearly better darts player this year (Humphries) who beat him in the world final - a straight nom of Littler is very odd given this fact.
Littler has had good impact for darts, but I think will get recognised by giving him Young sportsperson of the year. |
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So the panel is external to the bbc, invited to salford come november to have a good chin wag and tea and biscuits. Maybe a slap up meal even.
Of course you can say they'll be influenced by the bbc, but they are independent. They produce the candidates, be it 6 or 12 |
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all correct duffy
but and a very big but, darts not on bbc, they are well known for leaving stars off list year in year out. Kerr last year they may want an olympian to win this time coz there channel and radu won last time games was on young spoty is a very easy get out for them i do think he makes the list but there is a ton of uncertainty |
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In answer to duffy, the public will find it very odd if he's not on the list, but of course stranger things have happened
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Does it matter that there is a player arguably better than him ATM, what he has achieved at his age especially in that very much gladiatorial arena that darts provides and to be able to hold your own at his age amid all that without being overawed especially when he appears to not be an overly demonstrative individual is simply incredible and then to be very nearly the best player in the world at it is astounding.
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Players championship is a bit of a big deal in late November he could do with winning that one, on ITV4...at least it's terrestrial tv, so might jog a few memories when people start to see it being advertised.
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Last year the panel made a very populist choice in chosing Broad, he'd done next to bugger all really. I'd make Luke odds on to be selected, and Cav around evens
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He was padding so goalie won.
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Well, he was very short for a time. I was laying
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In Olympic year, a chubby man child wins spoty by starring in a pub sport. A pub sport which auntie doesn't even have the rights to broadcast live, and the runner didn't win the most important title. I no longer see the prods going for it at all, the question is if they are comfortable risking him being listed for the main award.
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