The Lukey Lamborghini to the spoty loot

*her I meant

I thought I'd been out in the sun too long lol

move it to 50's, after all she has no chance

If your description is true she's more like a 5/2 shot

apparently she can't win SPOTY coz she didn't win a gold on her own

5/2 shot at 36.0 and not being taken?

I'll leave it up there if any takers.

sports personality of the year, based on your achievements for that particular year

its fecking immaterial who won what or what they won

Taken, hope by you army - fair play.

as long as you achieved something, its about the journey

brushy took it, coz i smell something

Have a shower then :)

As that was popular, added another tenner at 25.0

your argument convincing me, slightly.

Actually that's a bit skinny, so prepared to go to 30

Star Sports obv listening to you army - they still have her at 9/1 for SPOTY

Were you backing bellingham at 10 after the euros army?

your're gonna have a very squeaky bum come the awards if you keep laying her stu, for one simple reason.

she won welsh spoty last year, so many welsh gamblers will expect her to progress to the main award after such a great games. She will get backed in no matter what, once a campaign starts she'll go very short.

Happy to give another 10 at 30, it's there...

Someone bit, so fair play whoever - hope you played army.

I'm not adding anymore at present, it's too long to wait.

I was originally getting on Luke after the euro's and Olympics to see where his price was at, its actually decent but i think there is too many doubts about him making the list.
Raducanu won it last games year, will the bbc risk that again ? They are not scared of making tough controversial decisions, whether its them or the panel.

Would seem harsh to dump young spoty on him, that award is for upcoming kids you've hardly heard of and Luke has transformed darts and the adult world of darts. Which is his only positive imo to help him get on the list, the fact he's competing against adults at the highest levels of his sport.

Unfortunately that sport is not covered by the Illuminati and that is what the 17 year old is up against, the bbc do seem to like him though, following his progression.

With the bbc's track record of leaving massive names off the list over the years, its a total coin flip whether he gets on it imo.
Keely's price will always be odds on regardless of him making the list coz she will get massive media coverage on the run imo, most likely a documentary at some point, too boost her profile as i think Luke is more known than she is tbh.
She'll get the kitchen sink VT on the night as well no doubt, so i think you will still get some value on Luke even if you wait till the actual night or whether he makes the list or not.

conclusion is his price his great, you're just gambling he makes the list if you back him now. Its factored in by the looks of it, i think your'll still get 3+ if he makes the list.

Thats the 1st hurdle, getting on the list..the next one will be getting men to vote for him, if they do he wins easily. I just can't see enough women voting for him as right now most women are doing right by supporting other women. Joey Barton fall out still in effect no doubt, they was already at there height and he just pushed the agenda higher.
last hurdle for luke is no personality whatsoever, he's terrible in interviews with one sentence answers followed by a deathly silence lol and looking 35 is also a big negative. Hardly reminds you of your young son, more like the one who's moved out that drinks and eats kebabs every weekend.

Good luck if backing him as of now, way to many negatives for me verses an Olympian

He has 0 of the classic (I think GBs term) 'moist vote' - unlike some other male winners in SPOTY

No women will be fancying him in any way - maybe to mother him, but he loses some of that even as he looks 36!

you can back luke at 6/1 who is not even guaranteed to make the list, then has big hurdles to overcome even if he does
or
you can back Emma at 66/1 who is guaranteed to make the list and has a whole country who will get behind her

Wouldn't rely on any wales vote - Alun Wynn Jones (greatest ever wales rugby player) couldn't even get a top 3 vote from them lot.

...and that was RUGBY!

Lateysha would have pissed up though ;-)   :(

helps if your're liked stu, and female. didn't you know the landscape has changed, spoty is now a female magazine show

Lynne Davies not winning it for Wales after winning Olympic Gold was bad enough, but still not winning it after what he went on to achieve on Superstars was down right criminal

I’d guess BBC will ask Luke if he wants to be 3rd at best in Spoty or 1st Young Spoty. If he’s not in Young Spoty it would be a farce competition.

They'll just ask the 6 people on the independent panel, and they'll say, yes he's the biggest sporting story in Britain this year, covering the most column inches, of course he's on the shortlist

i think he'd be closer to 2/1 if he was a cert for the list brushy

doubt's are creeping in and the bbc are far from trustworthy to guarantee anyone being on it, apart from keely and ems

Not being as clued up on the politics of the award as a few on here I've not understood this shortlist question stuff.

Why isn't it a simple case of, is he a star of his game, has he taken his game by storm, has he impacted outside of his sport, is there a unique aspect of his achievement...where's the debate, isn't these all the things that get you on the list...you know...excellence!!

And we know the BBC like him

He has a clearly better darts player this year (Humphries) who beat him in the world final - a straight nom of Littler is very odd given this fact.

Littler has had good impact for darts, but I think will get recognised by giving him Young sportsperson of the year.

So the panel is external to the bbc, invited to salford come november to have a good chin wag and tea and biscuits. Maybe a slap up meal even. 

Of course you can say they'll be influenced by the bbc, but they are independent.  They produce the candidates, be it 6 or 12

all correct duffy

but and a very big but, darts not on bbc, they are well known for leaving stars off list year in year out. Kerr last year
they may want an olympian to win this time coz there channel and radu won last time games was on
young spoty is a very easy get out for them

i do think he makes the list but there is a ton of uncertainty

In answer to duffy, the public will find it very odd if he's not on the list, but of course stranger things have happened

Does it matter that there is a player arguably better than him ATM, what he has achieved at his age especially in that very much gladiatorial arena that darts provides and to be able to hold your own at his age amid all that without being overawed especially when he appears to not be an overly demonstrative individual is simply incredible and then to be very nearly the best player in the world at it is astounding.

Players championship is a bit of a big deal in late November he could do with winning that one, on ITV4...at least it's terrestrial tv, so might jog a few memories when people start to see it being advertised.

Last year the panel made a very populist choice in chosing Broad, he'd done next to bugger all really.  I'd make Luke odds on to be selected, and Cav around evens

He was padding so goalie won.

Well, he was very short for a time. I was laying

In Olympic year, a chubby man child wins spoty by starring in a pub sport. A pub sport which auntie doesn't even have the rights to broadcast live, and the runner didn't win the most important title. I no longer see the prods going for it at all, the question is if they are comfortable risking him being listed for the main award.

Luke will have many, many chances to go on the main list and win the award..that will count against him. Its the only chance they will ever get legitimately to leave him off.


The BBC Young Sports Personality of the Year[1] award is presented at the annual BBC Sports Personality of the Year award ceremony. It is awarded to the sportsperson aged 17 or under as of 1 January of that year, who has made the most outstanding contribution to sport in that year.

Ian black won the main award as a 17 year but that was back in 1958, pretty sure its never happened since then. There is no minimum age mentioned anywhere about the main award but as they introduced young SPOTY with a max age limit it might be some unwritten rule not known by the public.
Simply put is he old enough to go on the main list ? nobody actually knows !!

You don't half post some sh1te at times

2022, Young Spoty winner was Jessica Gadirova,, She was also on the shortlist of 6 for the main award



nobody actually knows !!

oh yeah well spotted , i did actually look at her last year lol for similar reasons i recall. i'm catching you all up and going senile

He still has far more negatives, his only positives are what he's achieved.
he's so boring i just can't see how there gonna make a decent VT of him

Their vt's are 60 secs..  Him hitting 2 x 9 darters and winning the premiership will fill that

Emma's will be going round in circles and getting beaten

Both girls will smash him out the park with there VT's, dreaming as young girls about winning medals...tears, blood, sweat along the way.
the men will love the 9 darters but will they vote or expect everyone else too, most won't bother to fill out the form. Lets be honest any bloke that has a partner, she will do all there paperwork and online crap coz the bloke can't be arsed.
whereas every woman watching will go out of there way to fill out the form, they love it. Being part of something, men are just not the same !! and he needs there votes to stand any chance imo

Insta is mainly aimed at females..

Emma gained 8.5 k extra Insta followers during her week in Paris

Luke gained 1.4 million

oh that old chestnut, works every time and were all millionaires by following it
how many more times does it have to be wrong before you stop posting crap followers

he has to get on the list 1st, so good luck if you have put money on him. nothing is guaranteed with the bbc, they manipulate every thing

its not like they would be fecking him over either, they would be giving him an award. the young version of it and tell him to come back next year with a bit more spunk in ya interviews

Its a decent gauge of popularity imo especially when the gap is humongous.

Probably better that relying on the huge Welsh vote because Glynn got 2nd in BB 20 years ago..

he's certainly not an ideal advert for sport in general, i actually love the lad but he's massively overweight for his age and does nothing to lower it. just eats and promotes junk food.
in this pc driven world we live in now, is he the winner the bbc want to showcase to young aspiring kids

not for me, thats another negative to the already long list

half the followers are fake and a large % would be from oversea's thats why we lose as much as win by following them

some people are sheep and like seeing big numbers next to a name without knowing who's real or not and where they live in the world

you got any more jabs my way or can i go make a coffee please

You're just posting random sh1te now so im off to cut the grass.

don't forget the weed killer !!

tbh to this thread, i'm a massive Luke fan and hope he does make the list and win if the unknowns vote, he has the potential to win by miles. its just a coinflip whether he gets on or not and far to risky to have the 2k i was gonna put on him as Plan A, so i'll probably be kicking myself when he does and win lol.

my main play in this market now and will continue to be all the way is emma top 3 so good luck luke backers and to luke himself, he does deserve it for what hes achieved and done for the sport.

ive nothing further to say on this topic, all my energy is for emma

U turn if you want to

no mate, i can get 10/1 for 3rd for emma which i think is odds on. why on earth would i take lower about luke who has many hills to overcome lol

Do both :)

lol if luke does make the list i'd be happy backing him at say 2/1+ and prey men vote, that would still be massive value considering his pub popularity. and i would have the 2k on. so i will wait

You'll need to be quick then

nah keely will go shorter come the night imo, she will get everything thrown at her unfortunately coz everyone else on the track was so poor

the bbc have no option to make it all about her coz of the popularity of athletics over everything else

lets face it, she only gets beat as a very short price fav. ive accepted that as fact

The BBc aren't producing the show this year, whisper North are

As it's their first year I doubt they will want to show any obvious bias.

Aren't they producers for a lot of the darts on sky? ;-)

bit of hope then for all

The tender was launched in January and from the field of shortlisted tenderers, Whisper North’s bid scored highest against the published criteria. Whisper North will begin producing Sports Personality of the Year from 2024 and will work closely with BBC Sport to ensure the effective and successful delivery of the programme.

Panel is a load of fat northern journos sitting in a pub

Like to shout at cyclists as they overtake

Mark Cole, Managing Director, Whisper, commented: “BBC Sports Personality of the Year brings together many of the elements Whisper love to produce and celebrate: live events, awards shows, sporting moments, superstars and entertainment.

“We celebrate sport and athletes across many productions throughout the year, so to be working with the BBC on this prestigious end of year show feels a fitting way to conclude what will be an incredible year of sporting achievement and endeavour.

“With the BBC, we will be seeking to deliver a bold and ambitious show that will appeal to a wide audience, driven by compelling and entertaining story-telling.

“Sport has a brilliant power to bring everyone together and impact change. To be able to celebrate that and showcase the heroes that influence and inspire so many is a privilege that we will, as usual, meet with the focus and huge ambition it deserves.”

just be here 1st september to give me my 10/1

Sounds like lukey is a cert for that shortlist then

hopefully it will make the show worth watching then, otherwise it will be the keely coronation night and boring as foooook

funny though he keeps drifting

and to think i could of got him into 3/1 with a bit of effort, blame emma brushy..she's my hero now

I thought you said worrying about prices was for mugs?

im not worried about his price or anyones, only bets i have is for emma and when she gets top 3 i will clean up just like i did on nick skelton..lovely 10k payday that was, i hope to better that with emma

Broom broom……..

In reverse or just stalled...?

Liking the Emma quote you also wrote just above too, you still thinking that one?

In relation to that, wonder when are we getting a top 3 market?

All eyes on Lando unfortunately for all now stu, I have him covered now but obviously rather he fecks it up

Lando is a fly in the ointment for sure for many earlier selections in this market.

Unfortunately he has to be covered if you're a trader, rather than pure gambler

After 2 more races he could be fav for the title, and closing on fav here too

Any truth in the rumour that lineker's replacement on spoty is Bobby George?

Jake Humphrey

Vroom vroom

Wow. That was a destruction. 107 average, 105 for the tournament. Unreal performance to take his 10th tournament of the year. Truly unreal levels

Brutal

Nice of him to get it done in time for IAC

Throw some non believers on the fire

Guess who was the only one Sally Nugent commented on as the bbc sports guy read them out?