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*** Eurovision Grand Final IR Thread ****
*** Eurovision Grand Final IR Thread ****
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Belgium can be explained by iTunes imo
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Today? I thought that was based on perception of the performance.
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Latvia hardly shortened
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Not just today. During the semi final there was a much bigger move
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Latvia trading at 180 after 2nd in the semi plus a good draw would indicate no insiders imo
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Agreed
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I thought both of Serbia's moves were related to the performance. Belgium were quite close to Russia and clear in 2nd. I doubt if anyone would be backing Latvia for the win if they had those results to hand.
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I wouldn't be backing Belgium for the win either
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If there were insiders there were loads of markets they could have exploited and won with them results
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maybe now the bbc will do a rethink on how to select the uk entry next year but somehow i have this feeling that it will not happen.
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You think that the price crash was a pure coincidence? Perhaps Belgium 'won' the jury vote in semi 1.
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Much of it could be put down to it being top on iTunes
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Full results out. I've not gone through them all but I reckon Italy might have won the pv
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It's late and I might have made some mistakes but Italy clearly won the pv easily
I make it 351 Italy, 266 Sweden |
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I got Italy on 358 tho is late! Either way they absolutely smashed up the PV.
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Guess just like Sognu the juries didn't dig it!
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This is Swedens collectoin of jury ranks, hosed up with the jury. I suspect insiders knew this hence the 2.5 into 1.8 price crash, I know plenty will disagree but I don't think insiders concern themselves with side markets when they can make tens of thousands on the main one.
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Did anyone dig Sognu?
 He was dreadful on the night I wasn't a big fan of Italy but it's crazy that a country that smashes the pv can finish 3rd |
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Bang goes the theory that TPTB didn't want Sweden winning
 The juries won it for him |
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Jury Result
Sweden 353 Latvia 249 Russia 234 Australia 224 Belgium 186 Italy 171 |
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Cumulative/Average jury ranks (lower the better):
Sweden 91/2.5 Russia 205/5.7 Italy 287/8.0 Cumulative/Average PV ranks: Sweden 157/4.4 Russia 149/4.1 Italy 97/2.7 |
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Russia beat it in the pv too
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Yup! I felt Sweden wouldn't get good jury votes and felt very sweet on it now winning the public vote. Seems the 3rd most popular song won by 50+ points, which is quite a margin, all thanks to the jury! To me the market knew!
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not* not now!
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So the people's choice wins yet again...quel surprise
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The people's choice was Italy
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Grande Amoure absolutely hacked up basically, yet came 3rd.
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Or are you saying it didn't win pv Angela? In which case...
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Lower the better. Italy rinsed them like Frankel, seems the juries put me on his back inside of Ryan Moore though and the extra weight slowed them down into 3rd.
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PV not winning had to happen sometime I guess
tbf to the judges when you look at the 4 factors they are asked to rank Sweden does ok on them...Italy's voices good but staging poor. Interesting they p1ssed the press poll too. I called it right re Italy doing well early on...traded as low as 3.8 if not lower. |
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Bails calls it right again
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"This is Swedens collectoin of jury ranks, hosed up with the jury. I suspect insiders knew this hence the 2.5 into 1.8 price crash, I know plenty will disagree but I don't think insiders concern themselves with side markets when they can make tens of thousands on the main one."
That's a good point about the side markets, we shouldn't be surprised if they're not affected. However loads of people would have been smashing Sweden's price down after the vote reveal order came out. And, unlike us, insiders had to also do their job on the night and wouldn't have been able to be stuck to the BF screen. The only surprise is the many hours the price stayed in the 2.4s and 2.5s. |
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i wonder how italy would have done had they competed in the semi finals?
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Haven't looked over the results in detail,but a few observations......
Amazed how it was the juries which won the contest for Sweden,rather than the televote....really didn't see that coming.Italy can feel justifiably aggrieved having topped the televote,although I do think the draw played a factor in that.Interesting to look at the Scandinavian voting results for Italy...... Finland ....Jury 19th. Televote 3rd Iceland. Jury 11th. Televote. 1st Norway. Jury 10th. Televote 4th Denmark. Jury. 8th. Televote. 5th Sweden. Jury 5th. Televote 3rd The usual shenanigans between Azer & Armenia....all 12 judges scoring the other country last on jury score,and both televotes last also. And finally the UK televote.....1st Lithuania 2nd Poland .....Nigel Farage must be fuming. |
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A couple of interesting points.
Last place isn't bad even if not the best, for Italy to do so well, especially coming 2 behind Russia. If the song is powerful it can overcome dodgy direction. The Italian staging was very static and uninteresting compared to Sweden and Russia and there was some editing mistakes and also the singers missed cameras. |
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UK jury result for Sweden in Semi Final 2,compared to the jury result for them in the final is also strange.
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