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By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:34
1.1
By:
tommycockles
When: 31 Oct 13 15:34
now 1.1 ????
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:36
Looks like an announcement that King will be in charge for the Latvia game could be on it's way
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:37
For the sake of the 1.1 backer I hope so. lol
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:38
Not sure why they didn't lay MON instead
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:44
I can't find that Irish Sun tweet now, it seems to have been changed to this

Irish Sun Sport ‏@IrishSunSport 14h

Oh yeah, we also tell you when @FAIreland will know the identity of the next manager.... All this for a quid #geton
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:45
The way I see the rules if whoever is appointed national coach then the interim/caretaker/temporary tag right now associated with King is washed away immediately.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Oct 13 15:45
que?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Oct 13 15:45
Oh, you mean he would have only been in charge for 2 games
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:46
Well the original tweet did already give the answer.  Must've been an error.
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:46
If he's in charge of 3 games he's by definition the interim manager
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:47
I think it only applies if no official manager has been appointed.
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:49
The 3 game rule and interim/caretaker/temporary stuff only comes into play if no official manager has been appointed.  That's how I'm seeing it anyways.
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:49
If you are in charge of a team for a game then you are still the interim manager
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:52
Anyone have the Irish Sun and what they said today?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Oct 13 15:53
If he's in charge for the next friendly, obv we should get a payout

If the new guy is appointed but sits in the stands until next year, then it's complicated

I wouldn't whinge if we missed out tbh - though praps DH would be fair
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:54
But who care when a official manager has been appointed?  The market first and foremost is who will be the next Ireland manager? 

The 3 game rule is secondary stuff if no official manager has been named.
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 15:57
I see a price move and where do I need to look to see where it might be coming from?  Hi guys
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:58
Noel King would fulfil the requirements for rule 2 so you should be paid out on him
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 15:58
Shirley how do you interpret the rules of this market if somebody is appointed official manager but King takes the reigns for the next friendly?
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 15:59
King is the winner under the rules of the market
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:01
The manager officially appointed is the winner regardless of who picks the team for the friendly. 99% sure betfair would see it that way but ask them.
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 16:01
Disagree and honestly don't see the confusion.
By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 16:02
And not sure what the source of the King money was Shirley.
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:02
There we go 5LL and I disagree. I am talking if a manager is announced before the game just to make sure we are talking apples and apples and not apples and pears.
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:03

Oct 31, 2013 -- 4:02PM, Horangi. wrote:


And not sure what the source of the King money was Shirley.


George I expect.

By:
Horangi.
When: 31 Oct 13 16:03
The 1.10 bit? Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:03
I doubt George took 1.1 Grin
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:04
Grin
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:07

Oct 31, 2013 -- 4:02PM, ShirleyKnot wrote:


There we go 5LL and I disagree. I am talking if a manager is announced before the game just to make sure we are talking apples and apples and not apples and pears.


If a manager is announced but doesn't take charge until after the Latvia & Poland games then King is still the interim manager

By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:09
Is that a confirmation you have from betfair 5LL?
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:11
Shall I ask for clarification?  They are not good with "what ifs" though, they usually say "We will consider it if the event arises"
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:12
Betfair make it up as they go along, so I wouldn't even bother asking, but give it a go Shirley
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:14
Surely it would depend how they the FAI worded it. If they say MON is going to be our next manager but won't take charge until after Poland, then King is still the interim manager
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:24

Oct 31, 2013 -- 4:14PM, five leaves left wrote:


Surely it would depend how they the FAI worded it. If they say MON is going to be our next manager but won't take charge until after Poland, then King is still the interim manager


I disagree. If I may put my legal hat on, the market rules say:

Who will be appointed as the next national coach of the Republic of Ireland National Team?

The words after that deal with interims and caretakers.  The key rule must apply first, the rest is secondary to the main rule.

By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:30
Do you have a legal hat?
By:
bearcub
When: 31 Oct 13 16:31
It has a big 'D' on it
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:32
Naughty bear
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Oct 13 16:33
You could be right Shirley.
Does anyone know what the Irish Sun actually said today?
By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 31 Oct 13 16:33

Oct 31, 2013 -- 4:32PM, five leaves left wrote:


Naughty bear


Very.  Remarkable for somebody that has not expressed a view.  what is your view on the rules bearcub?

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