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By:
bexley
When: 15 May 13 08:48
Malta to qualify leaves any views? Interesting how many non english failures last night though some were of course poor songs. At 1.4 im actually thinking of piling on
By:
bexley
When: 15 May 13 08:50
not just because of Malta but the weakness of this semi >  I hate Finland, dont like Israel etc and they are meant to qualify as well...
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 08:50
Denmark Love
By:
bexley
When: 15 May 13 08:50
and we have JR insights as well for malta ofc...
By:
bexley
When: 15 May 13 08:51
did you watch RMB and were you impressed?
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 08:55
Didn't watch live. But I've had quite a big fill in the 2.5s, and the crowd seem to acknowledge it's the winning song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hn5_YerAQA

Couldn't be more impressed. If this doesn't win, I will eat my hat. It's a weak year and this song sticks out, it's very catchy, the staging is sublime. :)
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 08:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAV2aAitr7Q *
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 08:58
I was hugely underwhelmed by it
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 09:00
1.4 not the sort of price I play at Bex, but Malta does look a good thing for qualification
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 09:05
Second half draw, Isla Fisher on lead vocals, everyone will be listening out for it, must have done well in the voting because of the price move, it's hard to see anything knocking it off its perch. Can't have the likes of Italy or Holland doing so.
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 09:10
If they had got the first half draw I'd be less enthusiastic, for sure. Maybe the price move was just on the draw alone, I want it to be votes based more!
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 09:13
France, Germany, Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom will draw for their half today. Germany and Italy will be of interest.
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 09:14
Got to think the producers will put Denmark on near the end as well, hopefully after some dirge so we can really appreciate it's greatness Love
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 09:24
It's hardly great and I'm still far from convinced that women will vote for a woman who looks so seductive.
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 09:27

May 14, 2013 -- 4:09AM, bexley wrote:


and much as I like Croatia I wouldnt be backing it at 1/3


Was that a hint at a lay, if so wp sir.

By:
STEVO1878
When: 15 May 13 10:00
Haven't really looked at all the songs yet, just the front few in the betting. My personal fav at the moment is Norway. Does anyone know when will the draw for the final be made?
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:05
I'm not entirely sure. You will know if she's in the 1st half of the final or 2nd at the press conference after the semi final on Thursday.
I guess they will announce the running order soon after.

Germany 2nd rehearsals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMhrsWRyJJ4&feature=youtu.be&a

Not a great video but sounds awful to me
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:07
France
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1UaIr7MZKg&feature=youtu.be&a

Spain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLhfyF0lSQQ&feature=youtu.be&a
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 10:08
Running order confirmed on Friday.
By:
RMB ©
When: 15 May 13 10:10
[1500 CEST]
By:
STEVO1878
When: 15 May 13 10:11
Thanks guys. Norway for Top 3 at 2.48 for me up to now!
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:27
Cheers RMB.

Spain have drawn 1st half. Must be a reasonable bet for finishing last.

Another one of Germany

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCEDaxS-Aa4&feature=youtu.be&a
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:28
Worse than Slovenia
By:
hemsby
When: 15 May 13 10:44
Just caught up watching the first SF.Denmark,Holland and Russia the 3 obvious standouts for me,still can't have Ukraine...the more I listen to it,the less I like it.
I thought the staging for Denmark was the best of the evening,although the singer does look a little manic-eyed at times.
Russia has a very pedestrian 1st minute,and then IMO the most impressive final minute.
Holland looked like a Top of The Pops performance,with the satellite stage surrounded by the audience.Quite refreshing,following the huge productions which preceded it.

The one thing which strikes me about ESC betting in general,is that despite months of analysis and debate,the RO draw has such a huge significance on price fluctuations,that punting on it (thinking OR here) is very difficult.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:51
Don't talk about the draw Hems Sad
I've been lucky in the past 3 years, so was due a nightmare.

Interesting comments. Especially about Holland.
I wasn't keen on her being amongst the crowd. It was the one thing I didn't like about the staging.
She was rather lost behind the waving flags at times.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:52
the draw is rather like taking a position on an XF elim and then the act you've backed getting the pimp.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 10:54
France 1st half fwiw
By:
hemsby
When: 15 May 13 10:57
Yep...a fair analogy Fig.Its just that the ESC is considered by most on here to be the premier event of the year,and to have so much supposedly riding on a random running order draw doesn't personally entice me to get more involved in it,other than a few speculative plays.
As regards the Dutch staging,whilst I found it refreshing,I take your point on board,and perhaps it wasn't ideal.It was just in my mind,it made the most unique song in the contest stand out a little more if anything.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:07
Possibly. I'd still have preferred her on the main stage and the backdrop more prominent.
It stands out though regardless.

I take your point about the draw Hems. It's frustrating when you get unlucky but it levels out over the years and it's perfectly possible to win from an early draw if you stand out enough.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:09
I am sure Fairytale, Satellite, and Euphoria would have won from any draw.
Running Scared the one that was really helped by the draw
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:14
Looking back, Ukraine won from 10 in 2004 and Turkey from 4 in 2003.
A late draw a clear advantage tho
By:
DickyM
When: 15 May 13 11:17
2 from 3 of Italy/Ger/UK get a 2nd half draw ? have I got that correct ?
By:
DickyM
When: 15 May 13 11:20
Ger 1st half
By:
DickyM
When: 15 May 13 11:21
All in on Marco Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:21
Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:25
33/1 with spoils ew if anyone can get on
By:
hemsby
When: 15 May 13 11:29
Spoils only 1/4 first 3 though Plain.I was going to have a few quid E/W on Germany if it got a late draw,so that's probably saved me some dough.
Hope Georgia get a late draw tomorrow.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:50
I agree. Not great in a 26 runner race.

Going back to the draw. It wasn't great for me last night but better today with Italy and hopefully on Thursday with Georgia.

Unless you put all your eggs in one basket or get very unlucky then things should even themselves out
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:52
..and for such a different and distinctive song as the Netherlands, I'm not sure the draw is so important.
I'd like 7+  though
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 11:56
Our Bonnie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXkGKoF_jzk&feature=youtu.be

I think this could do OK.

Top 10 not out of the question
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