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By:
five leaves left
When: 13 May 13 21:52
The press centre vote
http://www.esctoday.com/64126/press-centre-voting-denmark-and-azerbaijan-leading-the-semi-final-votes/
By:
Corbyguy
When: 13 May 13 22:09
number of points closer in the 2nd semi final then in the first final, no runaway leader.
By:
George Bailey
When: 13 May 13 22:44
Ukraine doing ok it seems
By:
ClayDavis
When: 14 May 13 08:45
Anyone got the running order for tonight?
This is a tough semi and can't help but thinking a big gun won't qualify....Holland?
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 09:05
I'm hoping and to an extent expecting a shock or two tonight. The tweaks to this years voting combined with the poor draw for the overall favourites in this particular semi I think means its on.

Voting allies wise Russia and Serbia would normally be all but secure by my calculations; jury wise the likes of Netherlands should be secure of its qualification. I'm happy to sit this out betting wise mainly because I don't have the slightest idea which of the likes of Austria, Belgium, Montenegro Estonia Latvia Cyprus Slovenia is going to take the 10th placa and/or replace one of the current betting top 10

Hunches? Belarus might struggle to qualify and as personal preferences Austria and belgium I hope make it
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 09:06
Oh and for Clay...

First Semi-Final

    Austria
    Estonia
    Slovenia
    Croatia
    Denmark
    Russia
    Ukraine
    The Netherlands
    Montenegro
    Lithuania
    Belarus
    Moldova
    Ireland
    Cyprus
    Belgium
    Serbia
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 09:09
and much as I like Croatia I wouldnt be backing it at 1/3 Wink
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 09:12
The drift on Belgium is a worry. Hopefully the vaginal rubbing didn't put the juries off
By:
ClayDavis
When: 14 May 13 09:44
Holand in trouble coming after a trio of Denmark, Russia and Ukraine
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 09:51
Save the best til the last.
I've had to have some more on Belgium and just hope the drift isn't informed money. It rarely is
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 09:54
btw there is a break after Denmark & Ireland
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 10:53

May 14, 2013 -- 4:51AM, five leaves left wrote:


Save the best til the last.I've had to have some more on Belgium and just hope the drift isn't informed money. It rarely is


As far as any inside info I'd be more worried the day of the final. Azerbaijan was heavily backed in 2011 and Sweden almost to the exclusion of anything else in 2012. Maybe 'they' just gotlucky, maybe it was the market finally reaching a final conclusion but I have decided to watch and probably follow any big plunge in the last couple of hours before the final

By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 10:58
The strangest move I saw was on Austria in 2010?
Backed down to single figures ir. Then when the voting lines had closed you couldn't give it away. Someone clearly knew it had bombed in the pv
By:
jacob_TA
When: 14 May 13 10:59
The "to qualify" prices are terrible on here, lower than High St + commission. Don't recall the markets in last years semis, does anyone remember if there was much action?
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 11:04
the liquidity is better Jacob once it gets running but a lot of people to an extent are 'buying money' tonight so dont expect much generosity on the 'stone wall' qualifiers.
By:
jacob_TA
When: 14 May 13 11:30
Thanks bex, I remember the Final being good, but don't think I played the semi IR. I want to get some down on Moldova, but there isn't enough up on here and its still 1.2 on High St.
Oh well, may just sit and watch
By:
stu
When: 14 May 13 11:51
Moldova now shorter than Netherlands to qualify!
By:
leroyb
When: 14 May 13 12:34
Damnit Ireland. Backed them at 110 and then dumped them now 70's wahhhh. Our best song in years.

Laying the top 3 to qualify tonight for entertainment purposes.
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 13:15
I've backed Ireland in most markets.
My one worry was the live performance but it has come across well live.
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 13:16
An audio stream of sorts on escxtra
By:
bearcub
When: 14 May 13 13:33
Sneak Peak of first Semi Final

quite useful to see them all in order and with full staging

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JLyVGlW4g
By:
skipper11
When: 14 May 13 13:33
Natalie to win, i mean Cascada
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 14:13

May 14, 2013 -- 8:33AM, bearcub wrote:


Sneak Peak of first Semi Final quite useful to see them all in order and with full staginghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JLyVGlW4g


Thanks for your links so far bearcub

Listening to these in order would give me some hope for Cyprus to qualify, coming after Belarus Moldova and Ireland which are more up tempo and after the earlier ballads are forgotten. Possible jury love for this one also.

By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 15:28
latest press centre vote fwiw
http://instagram.com/p/ZS-f1Np7y9/#
Clearly Austria doesn't send everyone to sleep.
It's one of the best 3 or 4 songs in this semi. Just a shame about the draw and the lack of friends.
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 15:30
Estonia wouldn't look out of place in the 1974 contest
By:
Corbyguy
When: 14 May 13 16:35
Are we going to have a live in chat discussion feed for tonights sem-final like we did for the semi-finals and final last year?
By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 16:37

May 14, 2013 -- 11:35AM, Corbyguy wrote:


Are we going to have a live in chat discussion feed for tonights sem-final like we did for the semi-finals and final last year?


for sure there will be a thread, who knows how busy it will be...

By:
bexley
When: 14 May 13 16:37
me and leaves will be there I suspect LaughLaugh
By:
Corbyguy
When: 14 May 13 16:41
Cool, I look forward to it. Was good to partake in last years final feed which was quite busy. Hard to keep up sometimes to read comments.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 14 May 13 16:43
http://www.esctoday.com/64158/bigpoll-2013-first-semi-final-results/
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 16:47
I shall only be switching on to watch anouk
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 14 May 13 17:09
Tissues at the ready Figgy?
By:
DickyM
When: 14 May 13 17:14
Mrs M taking unmerciful p1ss for me staying in watching this rather than taking her to the Reading ManCity game Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 13 17:20
Laugh Dicky

Tissues always at the ready HF. I hope they won't be to dry my tears Grin
By:
honestcl
When: 15 May 13 05:44
Just on here catching up after last night's SF1.  No one appears to have seen Serbia's shock exit coming or Croatia for that matter.  Just pleased Belarus got through - my only bet but quite a few on here were putting that down as a lay which had me concerned.

Prior to last night, 29 of the previous 30 qualifiers were the predicted ones betting-wise, but last night was a bit of a carve up, which now makes me wonder how much of a factor the new scoring rules are. 

Did Croatia suffer from next to no public vote despite (we suspect) a decent jury vote - something that in previous years would have been covered by the jury score to get them through? 

I also grew to like Montenegro but I suspect it bombed with the juries - again, bombing on just one side of the equation could have dire results, whereas under previous rules, if you bombed on one side, at least around half of the others bombed with you.

Makes me more inclined to look for outsider rather than attempt to buy money.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 08:30
Given the way Croatia drifted before the show, I strongly suspect it did poorly with the juries and Estonia did rather well.
By:
eaglewardy
When: 15 May 13 08:42
Russian price drift...Result of a poor draw or a leak of the semi final results?
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 May 13 08:46
Poor draw I reckon. It's price has stabilised & shortened a little from last night
By:
bexley
When: 15 May 13 08:46

May 15, 2013 -- 3:42AM, eaglewardy wrote:


Russian price drift...Result of a poor draw or a leak of the semi final results?


the draw 100% it came in to 12's after thesemi - once first half came out all cacks disappeared.

By:
bexley
When: 15 May 13 08:46
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