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By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Mar 12 14:51
I'd be happy to lay you that on here if betfair would let us.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 25 Mar 12 14:52
And me you!
By:
squares
When: 25 Mar 12 15:57
perhaps BF will be offering their own odds soon Plain

from the MoS via the horse forum:

Online betting exchange Betfair to launch as a bookmaker

By Sarah Bridge

Online betting exchange Betfair is to launch itself as a bookmaker in a move designed to prevent customers deserting to rivals such as William Hill and Ladbrokes.

Interim chief executive Stephen Morana said the company would shortly be introducing its own fixed-odds sports book, which means it will start taking bets of its own rather than just acting as a marketplace where customers offer bets to each other.

‘Our sports exchange always has been – and always will be – Betfair’s core product,’ said Morana. ‘It has revolutionised the industry and we have a loyal customer base, but we also recognise that there are certain bets at certain times that the exchange, by its nature, cannot offer.

‘Some of our customers are going to traditional bookies for a portion of their betting and we hope to address this with the introduction of an integrated risk product that will complement the exchange, not compete with it.’

Betting exchanges work by having customers offering odds to each other and accepting each other’s bets. But customers who want to get early prices on a race or bet while a match or race is under way might find it hard to find someone to take their bet.

Now Betfair will be taking on the risk itself. Betfair has yet to decide on a name for the bookmaking business.

The company will be hoping that the move changes its fortunes as it has been going through tough times. It was seen as one of the worst flotations in recent years, listing at £13 a share in October 2010, but falling steadily ever since to close at 871p on Friday.

Chief executive David Yu and chairman Ed Wray have both since left the company, which earlier this year was forced to cancel millions of pounds in bets due to a ‘technical failure’.

Some analysts are positive about Betfair’s move into bookmaking. Ivor Jones of investment bankers Numis said that while the result of putting a betting exchange and a fixed-odds sports book together was ‘uncertain’, he believed it had ‘the potential to increase profits by over 50 per cent’.

Betfair currently has four million registered users, of whom 900,000 gamble regularly. In the year to last April, it made pre-tax profits of £26.6million on turnover of £368.6million.
By:
squares
When: 25 Mar 12 15:57
Wonder if this means they'll be banning and restricting us like the rest of the firms do.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 25 Mar 12 16:00
I'll still be 'banning and restricting' if that helps ................ and you're one of them!

wink!
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 25 Mar 12 16:25
Just watched The Voice now on iplayer and have the following comment.....

No sob stories then we get baldy woman with big sob story VT and looking so desparate that it was painful and just a decent cabaret voice... oh dear.

Max Milner the star auditionee of the 1st show for me, good voice original presentation and a vote winner for the ladies.

Thought Danny was the star judge by a mile, warm and came across as genuine and obviously bright as a button.  Thought the whole panel was good tbh and is a good mix of styles and personalities.  Although I like Jessie J wasn't quite as smitten as some on here as I found her to be trying a bit to hard at times.
By:
squares
When: 25 Mar 12 16:27
just about sums up my thoughts entirely, HF.
By:
squares
When: 25 Mar 12 16:31
It is a worry that Jessie may well become a victim of her own success and possible overexposure, and becomes annoying and overbearing over time.  Extremely likely if SCowell gets her on board.
By:
Claret85
When: 25 Mar 12 18:18
Is there so Xtra-Factor type show to go with this?

Cheers.
By:
Claret85
When: 25 Mar 12 18:19
no*
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Mar 12 20:59
Decent judges, format. Appalling acts so far
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Mar 12 21:17
perfect summary
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Mar 12 21:21
I can only hope they intended this in week 1 as they know everyone is studying the judges etc.  Atrocious dullfest and you could see exactly why none of them have made it yet
By:
George Bailey
When: 25 Mar 12 21:28
No Claret don't think so.  Hey we can all bet with BF the bookie and lay on BF the exchange. Simples. Crazy
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Mar 12 21:38
I can't see the new betfair bookie restricting or closing accounts PlainPlainPlainPlainPlain
By:
George Bailey
When: 25 Mar 12 21:42
Be interesting to see what their overround will be and how many bold blacks they get on Oddschecker. Likely to be generous early doors.  Be ironic if they have worse odds; they won't be able to boast on their adverts.  "Our fixed odds prices are crap but our clients still offer the best odds"...not quite the same ring to it.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Mar 12 21:50
lol @ betfair. Desperate
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Mar 12 21:51
Will also be ironic if they offer early prices on the likes of XF and BGT and yet don't let us do the same
By:
George Bailey
When: 25 Mar 12 21:54
Will they hit themselves with the PC when they start laying?
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Mar 12 21:55
Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Mar 12 21:57
..and share it out amongst the losers.

Once they're a bookie they won't want losers to lose more slowly. The quicker the better.
By:
George Bailey
When: 25 Mar 12 21:58
Yeah they are disappearing up their own arses alright. just hope our money is safe Shocked
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 25 Mar 12 23:59
Who wants 'up the arm on' this good thing?
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 26 Mar 12 00:47
Betfair will just skim their own prices and add on a fixed percentage to the market spread equally over the market selections.

With a direct price link they will never generate and arb between their sports book and the exchange.

Simples! Happy
By:
Danzaa
When: 26 Mar 12 01:03
Looks like a good way to completely decimate liquidity in already rubbish markets.
By:
hemsby
When: 31 Mar 12 12:59
As we are watching recordings atm,has anyone got any idea what stage they have actually reached yet?An article in a TV mag today quotes Tom Jones saying how difficult it was to chose between his contestants in the "battle" round.I guess then that the auditions and battle rounds have all been completed and approx only 15 are still left to go through to the lives?
Are there any spoilers out there with the names of the people who are through?Very difficult to have a punt if the info isn't out there yet.
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Mar 12 14:48
I'm sure they'll be all ready to go for lives, but I've not seen any spoilers as to who is through
By:
squares
When: 05 Apr 12 13:58
pics of this week's people on tmix and the likes.

Two weeks of filling teams, I think, with Battle Rounds on 21st and 22nd April.
By:
bunnyman
When: 08 Apr 12 19:59
Hello folks, just thought I'd pop in to see how much buzz there is about the Voice.  For the first time since 2003 I'm watching a reality tv show with no betting interest at all, just sitting down with the family and really enjoying it.  Is it my imagination or is this the best reality talent show ever?  We love it. No sob stories, no gimmicks, everyone is talented, even the losers leave on a high with positive comments, and we think the judges are great.  Hope everyone is doing well.
By:
five leaves left
When: 09 Apr 12 01:05
Hi bunny,
I hope you're well.
I agree it's an excellent show. A great mix of judges. No duffers only there to be laughed at and very little of Reggie Yates up til now.
By:
George Bailey
When: 09 Apr 12 02:02
Yes loving the format.  Shows XF and BGT up for the phoney sentimental Cowell con tricks they are.  Still good betting opportunities mind.

Took a chance and just had 50 quid on one.  Gamble given they may have saved the best till last and s/he might not get picked for lives but this one ticks so many boxes I couldn't resist. If a bigger price on here happy to go in again.
By:
bunnyman
When: 09 Apr 12 08:26
Yes very well thanks Figgy, I hope 2012 is treating you well so far.  Biggest surprise about this show is how much I'm liking Will.I.Am who I'd always had down as a complete tw4t.  Hope the format survives going live. Good luck with your bets on it.
By:
bunnyman
When: 09 Apr 12 08:28
Nice to see you around as well George - hope its profitable as well as enjoyable for you.  gl :)
By:
George Bailey
When: 09 Apr 12 09:34
Thanks bunnyman and good to see you back.  I'm not sure how The Voice keeps its uniqueness once the live show starts. The GBP will vote on the whole package; only way is to have it on the radio I guess or have them singing behind a screen.

We all know its NEVER just about the voice. Best hope is that the 4 mentors do their jobs properly unlike the XF frauds and there is no TCO that TPTB want to win.

Doing my "homework" on Youtube its clear the yanks think our version is better.  Not bad for a load of XF rejects etc. As with the other shows we have early favs who just won't have the voices to get them through various genres and appeal to the GBP.

Plus ca change....still a change however small is as good as a rest.
By:
George Bailey
When: 09 Apr 12 10:22
I see my 50 quid has caused Laddies to knock 4 points off the price Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 09 Apr 12 11:50
I'm off to check to see what the HG has said...
By:
five leaves left
When: 09 Apr 12 11:54
Not even one I've looked at.

I'm not too bad either bunny.....and agree about william.

As for the lives, it's never going to be just about the voice then. I'm not sure that matters tho. Just so long as they don't manipulate it too much, as you say GB2
By:
five leaves left
When: 09 Apr 12 11:56
The other good thing from a betting POV is that the beeb haven't pulled all the contestants previous performances as of yet. So good for research.
By:
George Bailey
When: 09 Apr 12 12:03
Just found another one I really like. 20 on at big odds. Betting Tourettes of course as more still to come plus risk of not getting through plus likely to be better odds on here early doors...still who knows.  Plenty of false favs to make a good book methinks.

far too soon for HG fll....but the early signs on my fav are very good.  Are we naming names "elsewhere"? Must have a look.
By:
five leaves left
When: 09 Apr 12 12:18
Yep...and a few have picked yours out.

He passed me by. I shall have to take a look.
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