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at least the tin foil will deflect the heat and avoid boiling their brains
they will point to the heatwave in the 70s and say its cyclical an that weve been hot and cold many times through history. which is true but that tokk a long time, 1000s of years, not massive shifts in succession with floods fires mass melting of icecaps and glaciers, heatwaves, all at once and all unprecedented and scientific unanimity even putin and xi dont dispute it |
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The UK has successfully halved its greenhouse gas emissions compared to 1990 levels, officially becoming the first major economy to reach this milestone while significantly growing its economy.
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I'm sure there's some logic in there. Somewhere. The temperature is inversely proportional to emissions?
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The highest officially recognized air temperature in Ireland is 33.3°C (91.9°F), recorded at Kilkenny Castle on June 26, 1887. A quick breakdown of historical and seasonal records highlights how Ireland's temperatures peak: All-time High: 33.3°C at Kilkenny Castle (June 26, 1887). Highest in Recent Decades: 33.1°C at Mount Juliet, Co. Kilkenny (July 18, 2022). Warmest Night: 19.6°C (Highest daily minimum) recorded in Northern Ireland on August 14, 2001, and widely in the mid-twenties for the Republic. All-time Low: −19.1°C (−2.4°F) at Markree Castle, Co. Sligo (January 16, 1881).
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Make sure you get them record sweltering temperatures from the Heathrow runway tarmac each day!!!!
Sure they will add a few degrees on top for the loony climate change believers! Give us your money mugs…… |
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Was this hot in 1976 for 3 months I recall....
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Did anyone predict 1976?
Was it a random one off year of records or was the 1970's choc a block with temperature and rainfall records like the 2010's and 2020's? How did all these looney scientists from the 1970's to the 2010's all predict this decade of temperature and rainfall records? |
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You don't need to be a data scientist to work out that [apparently] it's getting hotter the more we reduce emissions.
I thought it was meant to be the other way around. |
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It's been much hotter in the past. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Emissions are still going up.
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I'm just using their logic.
Isn't it weird how Ireland's highest temp was 33°C, yet we share the same climate. |
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Emissions are still going up.
Ah, so what we do is utterly irrelevant. |
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In a nutshell, there is no guarantee 'achieving' nut zero will impact the climate (either positively or negatively).
Even if it did, there's bugger all we can do about it. Tremendous ![]() |
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The difference between Ireland and UK is the UK is much closer to the continental land mass of Europe, ie you would also get colder winters.
Not a bit weird at all. |
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It is weird. Ireland's highest temperature was recorded in 1887, according to the data I cited.
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And the lowest in 1881.
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My times in Ireland suggested to me it could do with warming up, to be honest
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Weird how these corduroy clad quiche eating boffins all predicted these new weather records would keep being broken.
random luck? |
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the climate has changed for millions of years, it's bit about to stop if everyone drives a battery powered car.
it's actually completely irrelevant how or why all that counts is what positive impact self harming your economy will have. if the UK achieves nut zero, what specifically will be different to how thing are currently? |
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Lovely summer weather.
A miserable July and August on its way. Give us your money, and shut up. |
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Put your tin foil hat on Benny, Factor 50 won't protect you over the next few days.
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if the UK achieves nut zero, what specifically will be different to how things are currently?
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If it did achieve net zero you won't be in hoc to things like the Straits for one.
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I'm not clear that you fully understand what nut zero is.
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The reduction of fossil fuels is probably the biggest factor in net zero,hence the reason i used the 'Straits' as surely you can even see an alternative to reliance is a good thing?
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And by the way you are paying for that now.
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The country will be more reliant on foreign fossil fuels as a direct result of nut zero policy (not less). In fact, that's exactly what nut zero is
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Its just somebody else’s fossil fuels
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There's a massive heat sink at Heathrow that retains all of the intense radiating heat from the swathes of burning hot, large black asphalt runways, sprawling concourses enroute to the airplane, airport buildings etc making it an absolutely perfect environment to record the hottest temperature possible, our topography is is made up of mostly rolling hills, mountainous regions like Wales, Highlands, Pennines, or a wide open, flat landscapes as it is in places in East Anglia/the Fens, but instead we record temperature on a man-made heat island.
Records have only been kept consistently for around 250 years, yet media are constantly spouting "hottest temperature ever", apparently 'ever' started in around 1772. What was the daily/monthly/yearly fluctuations, and record high temps long before that when the Beaker people were mooching around the island, or the Neolithic farmers before them, or even further back to the Mesolithic hunter gathers. The Celts might have something to say about how hot it was during their time as well and the Roman Briton's that followed them. There's barely any context given by reporters, 250 years does not even qualify as a snapshot of time, it's an insignificant arbitrary number. Having said all that, Man made climate change is still definitely real, but there' no point in worrying yourselves about it, there's nothing you can do, cutting down on your short car journeys is chocolate teapot stuff. China are not slowing down their greenhouse gas emissions output despite targets they may have agreed to, they are determined to become the biggest economy in the world, and they account for nearly a third of all emissions globally, America second on that list, they have a MASSIVE highway network infrastructure with little to no high speed trains in operation meaning they're always going to have a huge reliance on personal vehicles. These electric cars themselves have batteries producing emissions during manufacturing and use fossil fuel grids to charge them, probably cleaner still over it's lifetime using them but massively mis-sold as being great for the environment. Then there's the centre's used by these growing power hungry AI companies as well driving up emission rates. Unless China-India-America reach a point where they're actually serious about reducing greenhouse gasses then conversations here or anywhere are largely futile, and our Green policies are nothing more than just token gesture, sound-bite stuff aimed at fooling the uninitiated. Kind Regards. |
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Thought you were rerferring to Andy Burnham when I read the header. As I understand it he is pretty green in policy terms but he might be more pragmatic when he sees the data. Meanwhile I am in my office in an old stone house in Somerset where it is about 19 degrees without any air conditioning.
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couple of days down by the Coast Sea breeze 26 c , kids in school very peaceful ,Lovely
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Climate change deniers?
This is false label, there is no such thing, there is some discussion on the reasons for change and what is man induced and what is natural cycle. Recent Triple dip and current ENSO phase have not been explained, nor has recent sudden increase in solar activity. If you don't have cloud cover and sun output is high, it's going to be warm, is cloud cover down to co2 increase or are other things at play? Never heard anyone denying the climate is changing, the Westher is changing but a hot day around summer solstice doesn't mean climate change imo. When does sea level rise start and where can it be seen? Coastal erosion doesn't count BTW. For every ship on/under the water there is displacement, all coastal land reclaimed, all the sediment washed out to sea,tectonic plate shift ect ect yet no measurable rise as claimed by your heavily funded scientific lobby. Not a denier of global warming but unsure if it's all down to co2 increase. It might be. As for electric vehicles, they not the enemy. Biggest miselling was diesel by a county mile, although the changes have been too rushed, helped no one and ordinary folk are paying for it all, uk a very expensive place to live. Don't get me started on state of roads, the reliance on tax from vehicles as a whole, ved and fuel duty is crazy, state of roads tells you all you need to know about how politicians view the motorist. And only going to get worse, heavy electric vehicles need a good surface or the running costs are going to be very heavy, does the gov think the motorists can just suck it up and absorb these costs too. They going to tax ordinary folk off the road, that is plan. |
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Some natural change and 8.5 billion folks now on the the planet .. As for cheap clean energy which can be the only excuse for the Insane push in the UK ..Don't hold your Breath
Many countries have spent billions on Green Business over the last few years , guess what its making no difference , any guesses when it will ? |
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Breadnbutter, completely agree.
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There are extreme views on both sides. It is the rate of change in climate that is claimed to be due to humans and none of the plans will change that. The only solution is less people and a lower standard of living. The number of car miles, truck miles. air miles etc. go up at a faster rate than the population as people expect more travel distances to work, holidays, football matches and even stag and hen nights 1000 miles from home. The sporting fraternity alone must account for quite a lot as football, rugby and cricket teams, golf and tennis players plus an entourage of hangers on fly to a new event nearly every week of the year etc. And that is before you start on the football fans.
There is no doubt that towns create local climate change. The average annual temperature in a large city is 2 or 3C above the surrounding countryside. That has to be solely down to human activity. |
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Extreme is irrelevant really. Just got to distil the facts. And it is a fact that whatever the UK does won't impact the weather or the climate. The end.
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I asked Escapee who has avoided the question twice. Another other proponent of nut zero can respond in his stead if they feel able.
When the UK reaches nut zero, what will be specifically different to how things stand now? |
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When the UK reaches nut zero, what will be specifically different to how things stand now? |