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Marerfield by-election Market
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Refuk even deleted his two social media accounts,
but too late, they'd been screenshotted the greens sacked their candidate for same kind of stuff, albeit lying about reason. Reform UK says it has no plans to investigate its candidate for the Makerfield by-election, after allegations a social media account linked to him contained offensive posts. Social media posts from a now-deleted X account associated with Robert Kenyon have been uncovered, showing saxist, violent and homophobic messages. A spokesperson from Reform UK said: "We fully back Cllr Kenyon." The statement added that the comments were made "before he entered politics". The posts include conspiracy theories around the Covid-19 pandemic, lewd comments about presenter Carol Vorderman and offensive sexual comments about female rugby players |
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At least we can be certain that Labour won't be fielding
fake candidates in this one.  |
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Just had a quick look at the market and it appears that Reform are being backed and Labour drifting. Any news on why that might be?
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Possibly due to all the negative press Burnham been getting.....council tax and higher tax burden if he gets in....plus letting men who identify as women use womens toilet an own goal imo......they aint stupid in Makerfield
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"For the purposes of full transparency, here are our canvassing returns from Makerfield that we’ve had back so far from the door knocking today.
1,010 sample size. 24.6% for Restore Britain. 31.2% definitely against. 24.2% undecided. 20% considering. Excluding won’t votes. More teams coming back, so the sample size will grow a lot in the next few hours. Largely agrees with what we’ve found over the last week - astounding response with the working class, more difficult with wealthier areas. To be honest. Labour are the opponent in the fancier places, Reform with the working class. Our campaign has just taken off. Great name recognition already, but clearly room to grow. Let’s see what happens. But we’re very happy with progress." |
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Poll Sunday Times/Survation. Labour 43%, Reform 40%, Restore 7%.
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What's the sample size?
Non controversial comment, the times/st are basically Labour's mouthpiece. So this would have been the outcome they wanted. What do we take from that? Theoretically it's motivating to make it close, one might have expected them to have nudged reform into the lead. But maybe that wouldn't get the commentary they wanted, they want to make it seem as if burnham has all of the momentum. |
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Sample size is 365. I don't follow UK politics like I do US so IDK the poll biases.
My take from it was the market is about right on Labour/Reform. The left Labour/Lib Dems and Greens and the right Reform/Restore/Tories are basically 50/50 here, all about squeezing smaller parties and getting vote out. |
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wow that is awful.
It's not controversial in my opinion, the times and sunday times bat for labour. Of course we have this upside down scenario where it is labour vs labour. But I think they know that they would be better off with burnham than anyone else. with that sample size it's next to irrelevant anyway, but commissioned by the print version of labour it can't be taken at face value anyway. we need to read the tea leaves. personally I find it a very difficult call, as when the establishment puts this much effort in, it usually gets what it wants. |
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the times/st are basically Labour's mouthpiece
Just further and further down the koolaid mine |
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the times and sunday times bat for labour
Lol |
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AI says
The Times is owned by News UK, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of the global mass media conglomerate News Corp. News Corp is headed by the Murdoch family, with Lachlan Murdoch serving as its media empire head. The Times is generally classified as a centre-right newspaper with a traditional, establishment perspective. While its editorial board often leans conservative, the paper features a wide variety of opinion columns and is widely regarded as a paper of record. Political Alignments Editorial Stance: The paper frequently supports the Conservative Party during general elections, though it has broken this pattern in the past—most notably endorsing Tony Blair's Labour government in 2001 and 2005. Economic Policy: Strongly supports free-market capitalism, privatization, and reduced government spending. Social Stance: Tends to be socially moderate-to-conservative, frequently covering traditional British institutions and law-and-order issues with a supportive tone. But if you are a far right fruit loop down a koolaid mine,might see things differently |
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The Sunday Times endorsed Labour for the 2024 election.
The Times didn't actually champion any particular party at that time. The Sun is also part of News Uk and who did they endorse in 2024 ? Labour of course. |
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Is laughable trying to claim that the ST doesn't bat for labour
 They don't try half as hard as he does, to be fair. |
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AI goes on to say
The Endorsement: In a major break from its historical tradition of backing the Conservatives, The Sunday Times (and its daily sister paper, The Times) formally endorsed Sir Keir Starmer's Labour Party for the 2024 election. The editorial boards cited a desire for economic stability and a change in leadership after 14 years of Conservative rule, though they framed their backing as a "reluctant endorsement" with expectations of strict fiscal discipline. Content Coverage: While the paper's ownership and general commentators frequently champion traditional center-right values (such as lower taxation and restrained public spending), their news coverage and investigative reporting during the campaign were broadly regarded as even-handed and independent, subjecting both major parties to intense scrutiny. Media Tracking & Perspectives Press Watchdog Data: Media analysis from groups like Loughborough University confirmed that The Times titles provided much more balanced and neutral election coverage compared to the staunchly right-wing (e.g., The Telegraph, Mail) or left-wing (e.g., The Guardian, Mirror) press. Public Consensus: Independent industry reviews, such as those from the Reuters Institute, classify The Sunday Times as an authoritative, establishment-aligned broadsheet that leans right on socio-economic issues but is generally willing to hold any governing party accountable. |
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schrodinger's blocker surfaces from his koolaid mine
Lol |
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Dixie how could they endorse the torys in 2024? They knew they were gonna back a loser,they simply switched sides for themselves, 2 faced.
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Labour use the times and the sunday times to peddle their propaganda. As I said, it's not controversial. It would be like claiming that the Tories don't use the telegraph.
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As I said fruit loop
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If they were such fanatical supporters of the Tories Lapsy then they would have supported them whatever.
The Mirror(for instance) would support Labour no matter what state they had put the country in. The ST and The Sun decided that Labour would be a better bet this time than the Tories, nothing to do with just wanting to back the "winning side". They regret it now of course  |
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They got it right, tories abysmal, and the worst ones
now in refuk. |
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Dixie they just knew the torys were banjaxed, shameful really,i'd imagine the daily mail tried to keep their mouth shut as they would be going down the route of a 'comic' I did love the daily express and their brexit backing,very funny.
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keep drinking that koolade :)
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Burnham Drifting , What happens if he doesnt win ? We have a PM that Most of the country want shifted , Infact his own party dont seem too keen on him
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You get to keep him a bit longer...
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there's money for mahmood and cooper
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We had the Green Plumber stormed home , Reform guy is a Plumber
A Plumber if far more usefull than most MPs He can stay as long as he Likes Donnie , we all know what he is , an ounce of decency he would have walked was quick enough telling Bojo to go |
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Either would be sound replacements Cider
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I think Shabama and Yvette are ok TBH
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They wouldn't have the support of the plp or the remaining labour members.
millipede is the only 'uniting' option for them it seems to me, outside of burnham. by all accounts however, he doesn't want it |
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He didn't just tell bojo to go, he outsmarted him at PMQs
so he had to go. |
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Johnson had to go When Sajid Indicated his time was up ,that was the end of him
Anyone watch that Believe Me, about the dodgepot Taxi Driver on Itv , One of the Girls in it Carrie was based on Carrie Johnson she agreed to let her name be used , She had got involved trying get him Caught |
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Worth a watch on ITV x , Sick B@stard
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Warboys was indeed a sicko TON. Hopefully he never gets released.
We actually had the misfortune in the late 80s to have him "perform" at my local club, when they put hen nights on in the function hall for the ladies. Terry the Minder was his alter ego. He was strutting around the bar after the event as if he owned the place, very dislikeable. Daniel Mays played him perfectly in the tv series, must have been difficult for him to take on a role like that. |
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Mays is a great Actor Dixie , that is some carry on, Dixie, did warboys do a strip act ? unreal
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Yes that was his "act" TON.
had the usual fringe benefits of being such a performer apparently, the ladies loved him. I suppose in those days he didn't have to resort to the kind of things he got up to when he became a cabbie. Dreadful individual who should be left to rot. |
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According to reports from on the ground, Restore are making steady but significant inroads into the Reform vote. If that's the case, neither of them can win.
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latest poll showing a close fight between Labour and Reform
1. seems illogical to me, because this should be an easy win for Reform based on demography, Brexit vote share etc. Surely the simple fact that it is Burnham isn't going to change that in the vast majority of cases. Labour are Toxic, full stop. 2. the betting is following the same pattern as for Trump v Clinton and the Brexit vote - ie, a complete red herring |
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Isn't it the case that a smaller party polls better the further out from the vote, then on vote day people vote for a party that has a chance of winning.
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That's usually the case blank.
Especially when there is lots of publicity which is the case, also, here. Offset by refuk picking wrong candidate, and restore Maybe getting free hit as they think jolly has won anyway. We shall see. |