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Restore are pumping money into this, costing them about £1-2,000 a day.
You can back Labour & Reform for a guaranteed 3.5% profit... Free Money
You can back Labour & Reform for a guaranteed 3.5% profit... Free Money
| UK - By-Elections -- Makerfield by-election |
| 6 Runners £201,455 Matched |
| 100.9% | 99.3% | |||||||
| Labour | 1.62 | 1.63 | 1.64 | 1.66 | 1.67 | 1.68 | £123,284 | |
| £117 | £123 | £124 | £845 | £20 | £100 | |||
| Reform | 2.74 | 2.76 | 2.78 | 2.82 | 2.84 | 2.88 | £56,046 | |
| £88 | £198 | £84 | £47 | £61 | £22 | |||
| Restore Britain | 26 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 32 | 34 | £21,280 | |
| £268 | £665 | £23 | £17 | £154 | £200 | |||
| Green | 270 | 300 | 320 | 440 | 450 | 470 | £708 | |
| £5 | £3 | £4 | £2 | £1 | £10 | |||
| Conservative | 680 | 810 | 1000 | - | - | - | £68 | |
| £1 | £1 | £57 | ||||||
| Liberal Democrats | 800 | 810 | 1000 | - | - | - | £70 | |
| £1 | £1 | £57 |
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Fair point but I would be very surprised if Restore aren't third.
Yeah, me too, but could have been some mileage in it over the duration.
And in these polarised elections it's easy for a shock.
And in these polarised elections it's easy for a shock.
Having said that, the most recent poll has Restore and Greens tied at 5%, so you never know.
Reform drifting right out to 6.0+ again, as Labour price shortens.
Sarah Pochin is doing the media for Reform on Makerfield election night. Seems that they aren't too hopeful.
Bloody hell, Labour's odds have come in a fair bit since I last checked.
Great a labour leadership battle - just what the country needs
Then presumably into a general election given if Burnham wins he wouldnt want to be constrained by a manifesto he had no input into and the legitimacy argument and pressure he would be put under like Theresa May
Then presumably into a general election given if Burnham wins he wouldnt want to be constrained by a manifesto he had no input into and the legitimacy argument and pressure he would be put under like Theresa May
Sir Keir Starmer has warned Andy Burnham against launching an immediate challenge to his leadership if he becomes an MP, urging him, and the party, to focus instead on the election for a new Greater Manchester mayor. 
No chance of an election imo. (Though we are definitely getting 12 months of cry@rsing from the right wingers and their loyal parrots for one)
10 years since the brexit vote was won, so a very long way to go to meet the salt from those losers (still salty)
Speaking from the G7 summit, the prime minister said a leadership contest would be a "bad thing" for the country and reiterated that he intended to fight any challenge.
I suppose the thing that goes against an election is that a lot of labour MPs will lose their seats
But if Burnham wins he has a massive job in uniting the party with Starmer sitting on the back benches
He is hamstrung by the pledges in the manifesto particularly on tax. I think he has said he will stick to the fiscal rules so no money to do anything new as he wont tackle the welfare bill
The future for the country looks rosy
But if Burnham wins he has a massive job in uniting the party with Starmer sitting on the back benches
He is hamstrung by the pledges in the manifesto particularly on tax. I think he has said he will stick to the fiscal rules so no money to do anything new as he wont tackle the welfare bill
The future for the country looks rosy
They'll just do what rachel from accounts did, and create new rules.
I think the party is pretty united behind Burham. At least at this stage. Even if someone like Streeting has a go, he's said nice things about him and doesn't want to burn any bridges. Seems pretty common. Basically they've concocted this daft coronation process because everyone from the MPs to the members to the electorate have overwhelmingly decided they prefer him.
I've said before Starmer should be offered Foreign Sec or something similar. He's very skilled in that area and has made some great relationships. I'd also offer Corbyn a place back fwiw and still offer ministerial seats to right wingers like Streeting and Carns. Just get the message across that Labour is a broad church.
As for tax, it's an opportunity to maybe change though the Lords could well say no. Either way, he's just got to get on with it. Hopefully the fact that he's a far better communicator than Starmer and has a lot of experience of running a government (though on a much smaller scale) means he'll be able to deliver a plan.
I've said before Starmer should be offered Foreign Sec or something similar. He's very skilled in that area and has made some great relationships. I'd also offer Corbyn a place back fwiw and still offer ministerial seats to right wingers like Streeting and Carns. Just get the message across that Labour is a broad church.
As for tax, it's an opportunity to maybe change though the Lords could well say no. Either way, he's just got to get on with it. Hopefully the fact that he's a far better communicator than Starmer and has a lot of experience of running a government (though on a much smaller scale) means he'll be able to deliver a plan.
Maybe wrong place to put this, next election, Restore 15 to win most seats next election? I thought nearer 500, are they that popular, I do not know anybody who mentions them, this is not a wind up, maybe as I have taken early retirement I am getting out of touch.
there is no way Starmer would accept a cabinet post after being PM
Surely he has more self respect than that
Surely he has more self respect than that
Dunno.
I'd say you're probably right but then Cameron came back (after a gap). Sunak is still a constituency MP when we all thought he'd be well in Silicon Valley by now. Miliband stuck around and seems happy enough. I imagine foreign office with the state of the world at present is still a very prestigious role and he might just say yes (out of service to the country etc etc).
I'd say you're probably right but then Cameron came back (after a gap). Sunak is still a constituency MP when we all thought he'd be well in Silicon Valley by now. Miliband stuck around and seems happy enough. I imagine foreign office with the state of the world at present is still a very prestigious role and he might just say yes (out of service to the country etc etc).
It's s bit different if the current manager displaced you. But Starmer is uniquely shameless.
i couldnt see him working for the man who ousted him - imagine the cabinet meetings with Starmer having to sit there meekly listening to the new boss
Milliband and Sunak stuck around as back bench MPs which I imagine Starmer would do until the election
Milliband and Sunak stuck around as back bench MPs which I imagine Starmer would do until the election
Would defeat the whole purpose of the project anyway. They will be trying to portray it as a new brand new government, far removed from the current sh111t show.
I'd certainly back him to walk away if give Evs, but I don't think he'd be a rank outsider to take another position.
And since when are they portraying it as a brand new government? Doesn't feel like there'll be wholesale changes apart from PM. There'll be a re-shuffle of some sort, but it feels mostly like the same pieces being moved to different places rather than a full on out with the old.
And since when are they portraying it as a brand new government? Doesn't feel like there'll be wholesale changes apart from PM. There'll be a re-shuffle of some sort, but it feels mostly like the same pieces being moved to different places rather than a full on out with the old.
It's politics isn't it. They won't be swept out, but demoted or operating in the background. Won't be many left this time next year. Red ed won't be going anywhere, likely promoted.
It'll be the same faces mostly. Healey will be back in defence. Carns will be back. Streeting. Rayner. Miliband. Mahmoud. Reeves. They'll all still be there.
Surely he has more self respect than that
where u been the past year Roth ?
where u been the past year Roth ?
The BBC has been slammed after it emerged two asylum seekers who appeared on an episode of Question Time had been coached by 'charity' campaigners.
In the episode, filmed on December 5 in Dover, the audience featured two men who had crossed the Channel in small boats.
The BBC previously told GB News that all those on the panel were informed "the day before the show that there would be people in the audience who had been through the asylum system".
Now, it has been revealed the two men were placed in the audience and coached beforehand by the migration support 'charity' Imix.
One of the asylum seekers featured in the programme was Ashraf, an Afghan national who crossed the Channel.
He told the panel he arrived in the UK around five year ago after trying to seek sanctuary in Turkey, Macedonia, Serbia, Romania, Austria and Germany, adding he left Afghanistan because it "is not safe".
Later on in the programme, host Fiona Bruce introduced an Iranian man in the audience named only as Alireza, who read a statement from his phone, arguing that leaving the Refugee Convention would be harmful to the rights of British people, not just refugees.
Their appearance was overseen by Imix’s Chief Executive Jenni Regan who was also on the show and was selected to ask a question, reports The Telegraph.
Ms Regan, who also volunteers with the RNLI in the Channel, later said appearing on Question Time was a daunting experience. She added: "Dover is not a particularly multicultural area" and she was therefore "conscious that many in the audience might hold anti-migrant views".
A Reform UK spokesman said: "It is no surprise that the Question Time: Immigration Special sparked so many complaints. The programme represented a clear failure of impartiality, editorial judgment and audience selection by the BBC.
"We are seeing an increasingly blatant pattern of bias and prejudice from the taxpayer-funded broadcaster.
"The question remains as to why did the BBC think it was appropriate to give a national platform to men who entered Britain illegally, allowing them to lecture the British public and attempt to manipulate opinion on the immigration crisis?"
In the episode, Reform UK's Zia Yusuf told Ashraf he would be deported if Mr Farage becomes the Prime Minister.
When Ms Bruce asked Mr Yusuf if migrants such as Ashraf would be deported under a potential Reform government, he replied: "I don’t know enough about that particular story.
"In terms of broad strokes, if you are entering from a war zone, it is generally women and children first and the vast majority of the people coming to this country, via the English Channel, illegally, are men."
A spokesman from the BBC told GB News Imix was one of a number of organisations contacted before filming, with producers saying they want to "find audience members that could give different perspectives on the debate about immigration in the UK".
In the episode, filmed on December 5 in Dover, the audience featured two men who had crossed the Channel in small boats.
The BBC previously told GB News that all those on the panel were informed "the day before the show that there would be people in the audience who had been through the asylum system".
Now, it has been revealed the two men were placed in the audience and coached beforehand by the migration support 'charity' Imix.
One of the asylum seekers featured in the programme was Ashraf, an Afghan national who crossed the Channel.
He told the panel he arrived in the UK around five year ago after trying to seek sanctuary in Turkey, Macedonia, Serbia, Romania, Austria and Germany, adding he left Afghanistan because it "is not safe".
Later on in the programme, host Fiona Bruce introduced an Iranian man in the audience named only as Alireza, who read a statement from his phone, arguing that leaving the Refugee Convention would be harmful to the rights of British people, not just refugees.
Their appearance was overseen by Imix’s Chief Executive Jenni Regan who was also on the show and was selected to ask a question, reports The Telegraph.
Ms Regan, who also volunteers with the RNLI in the Channel
, later said appearing on Question Time was a daunting experience. She added: "Dover is not a particularly multicultural area" and she was therefore "conscious that many in the audience might hold anti-migrant views".A Reform UK spokesman said: "It is no surprise that the Question Time: Immigration Special sparked so many complaints. The programme represented a clear failure of impartiality, editorial judgment and audience selection by the BBC.
"We are seeing an increasingly blatant pattern of bias and prejudice from the taxpayer-funded broadcaster.
"The question remains as to why did the BBC think it was appropriate to give a national platform to men who entered Britain illegally, allowing them to lecture the British public and attempt to manipulate opinion on the immigration crisis?"
In the episode, Reform UK's Zia Yusuf told Ashraf he would be deported if Mr Farage becomes the Prime Minister.
When Ms Bruce asked Mr Yusuf if migrants such as Ashraf would be deported under a potential Reform government, he replied: "I don’t know enough about that particular story.
"In terms of broad strokes, if you are entering from a war zone, it is generally women and children first and the vast majority of the people coming to this country, via the English Channel, illegally, are men."
A spokesman from the BBC told GB News Imix was one of a number of organisations contacted before filming, with producers saying they want to "find audience members that could give different perspectives on the debate about immigration in the UK".
Didn't hear you moaning when they did the same and planted pro brexit, or pro reform people in the audience.
The producers are tasked with making a programme where opposing views are voiced, they are not going to leave it to
chance that the audience randomly comprises of people with opposing and or unpopular views.
The producers are tasked with making a programme where opposing views are voiced, they are not going to leave it to
chance that the audience randomly comprises of people with opposing and or unpopular views.
Did they, what's the evidence of that?
It's obviously been self evident for years that qt has been r i g g e d to propagandise the liberalist narrative.
It (the bbc) tries to have a veneer of impartiality, but the actual truth is rather different.
It's obviously been self evident for years that qt has been r i g g e d to propagandise the liberalist narrative.
It (the bbc) tries to have a veneer of impartiality, but the actual truth is rather different.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17647208.bbc-question-time-defends-audience-selection-process-following-bias-complaints/
The BBC has defended its vetting process for Question Time after a former Conservative MSP and a number of councillors appeared as part of the show's audience in Elgin.
Mary Scanlon, who served as a Conservative MSP for over a decade, appeared on the show, as a member of the audience.
Viewers took to social media after spotting Scanlon alongside a number of Conservative councillors.
Responding to the criticism over the audience selection, a spokesperson for the BBC said: “Question Time does not bar people from its audience because they have held elected office or are political activists.
There is a selection process to ensure a range of views are heard and last night’s QT audience included supporters of different political parties, including the SNP.”
The SNP MP Stewart McDonald was quick to point out that the MSP was part of the crowd tweeting “Why is former Tory MSP Mary Scanlon – 1999 to 2016 – pretending to be an audience punter on #BBCQT?”
Tory MSP Edward Mountain, replying to McDonald, said: "I think, as she is no longer an MSP, that she is just a voter. I also know she will have been through the audience vetting process."
MSP Jenny Gilruth asked: “Why is Mary Scanlon, former Tory MSP, being allowed to ask questions as if she’s a normal punter on #BBCQT? Outrageous.
i remember seeing a left winger on twitter complaining that a tory councillor was repeatedly in the bbc audience.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/is-question-time-s-audience-producer-really-fascist/ - wow, trying to recruit audience members from the edl but not the local conservative party. and even more left wing bias
- a person who recruits the audience sharing and liking posts from britain first.
the bbc get it in the neck from all sides about audience selection.
The BBC has defended its vetting process for Question Time after a former Conservative MSP and a number of councillors appeared as part of the show's audience in Elgin.
Mary Scanlon, who served as a Conservative MSP for over a decade, appeared on the show, as a member of the audience.
Viewers took to social media after spotting Scanlon alongside a number of Conservative councillors.
Responding to the criticism over the audience selection, a spokesperson for the BBC said: “Question Time does not bar people from its audience because they have held elected office or are political activists.
There is a selection process to ensure a range of views are heard and last night’s QT audience included supporters of different political parties, including the SNP.”
The SNP MP Stewart McDonald was quick to point out that the MSP was part of the crowd tweeting “Why is former Tory MSP Mary Scanlon – 1999 to 2016 – pretending to be an audience punter on #BBCQT?”
Tory MSP Edward Mountain, replying to McDonald, said: "I think, as she is no longer an MSP, that she is just a voter. I also know she will have been through the audience vetting process."
MSP Jenny Gilruth asked: “Why is Mary Scanlon, former Tory MSP, being allowed to ask questions as if she’s a normal punter on #BBCQT? Outrageous.
i remember seeing a left winger on twitter complaining that a tory councillor was repeatedly in the bbc audience.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/is-question-time-s-audience-producer-really-fascist/ - wow, trying to recruit audience members from the edl but not the local conservative party. and even more left wing bias
- a person who recruits the audience sharing and liking posts from britain first. the bbc get it in the neck from all sides about audience selection.
Fran Unsworth used to run BBC news, she'll tell you about their 'world view'
if you can be bothered.
if you can be bothered.
Today's the day.
The market is pretty certain Burnham wins
The market is pretty certain Burnham wins
| UK - By-Elections -- Makerfield by-election |
| 6 Runners £1,899,302 Matched |
| 101.3% | 98.7% | |||||||
| Labour | 1.1 | 1.11 | 1.12 | 1.13 | 1.14 | 1.15 | £1,140,594 | |
| £132 | £395 | £1,896 | £934 | £607 | £1,476 | |||
| Reform | 9.4 | 9.8 | 10 | 11.5 | 13 | 13.5 | £325,228 | |
| £87 | £7 | £98 | £100 | £100 | £10 | |||
| Restore Britain | 50 | 55 | 60 | 65 | 75 | 190 | £429,609 | |
| £208 | £263 | £3 | £15 | £33 | £1 | |||
| Green | 420 | 430 | 1000 | - | - | - | £3,263 | |
| £1 | £3 | £269 | ||||||
| Conservative | 220 | 300 | 1000 | - | - | - | £359 | |
| £1 | £10 | £429 | ||||||
| Liberal Democrats | 5 | 220 | 1000 | - | - | - | £249 | |
| £5,000 | £1 | £438 |
I'm rooting for less than 10% Restore vote, less than 5% would be best for my book.
| UK - By-Elections -- Makerfield - Restore Britain Vote Percentage |
| 9 Runners £66,900 Matched |
| 118.4% | 91.3% | |||||||
| Less than 5% | 5 | 5.1 | 5.2 | 7.6 | 8.8 | 9 | £14,126 | |
| £5 | £6 | £7 | £25 | £3 | £43 | |||
| 5-9.99% | 1.57 | 1.83 | 1.84 | 1.9 | 2.28 | 2.36 | £23,486 | |
| £11 | £51 | £10 | £100 | £100 | £50 | |||
| 10-14.99% | 4 | 4.1 | 4.2 | 8 | 19 | 990 | £11,929 | |
| £80 | £8 | £9 | £35 | £10 | £2 | |||
| 15-19.99% | 9.6 | 10 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | £6,286 | |
| £50 | £55 | £22 | £9 | £1 | £4 | |||
| 20-24.99% | 15.5 | 16 | 16.5 | 34 | 44 | 46 | £4,897 | |
| £1 | £20 | £10 | £1 | £2 | £1 | |||
| 25-29.99% | 26 | 27 | 28 | 85 | 120 | 940 | £2,713 | |
| £1 | £26 | £51 | £1 | £5 | £2 | |||
| 30-34.99% | 90 | 100 | 110 | 160 | 770 | - | £1,407 | |
| £3 | £10 | £5 | £2 | £1 | ||||
| 35-39.99% | 120 | 140 | 150 | 340 | 450 | 980 | £865 | |
| £10 | £1 | £5 | £1 | £2 | £2 | |||
| 40% or more | 90 | 130 | 140 | 330 | 950 | 1000 | £1,192 | |
| £1 | £1 | £2 | £1 | £1 | £2 |
The vibe on the ground must be very +ve.
Imagine Labour have thrown everything at this election as defeat would be disastrous.
Imagine Labour have thrown everything at this election as defeat would be disastrous.
I don't see how Labour can possibly lose. I think this is more about
the beginning of restore overtaking reform in the next 3 years.
the beginning of restore overtaking reform in the next 3 years.
@saddo, what is the difference between reform and restore?
Escapee Reform are followed by normal people. Restore are followed by crazy people. That's one big difference. The other big one is mass deportations.
Economic policy aside from that I imagine is broadly similar. Tax multi millionaires less
Jun 18, 2026 -- 12:29PM, Escapee wrote:
@saddo, what is the difference between reform and restore?
Elon's algorithm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fchrqBL-8B0&t=1471s
Elon Musk before and after
Elon Musk before and after
I wonder when the leadership challenge will start ? hopefully Starmer shifted ASAP, every Cloud
Escapee 18 Jun 26 12:29
@saddo, what is the difference between reform and restore?
................................
One is run by someone who wants to save the country,
Farage has recently hinted at stepping down I think.
People need a choice of real change, or more of the same.
There isn't room for both parties at the next GE, Farage
made a blunder causing the emergence of an opposing party.
@saddo, what is the difference between reform and restore?
................................
One is run by someone who wants to save the country,
Farage has recently hinted at stepping down I think.
People need a choice of real change, or more of the same.
There isn't room for both parties at the next GE, Farage
made a blunder causing the emergence of an opposing party.
The difference is is that Farage is pragmatic and in it for himself and Lowe is deluded? I could go along with that being a difference
You should listen to the 'Farage On The Record' broadcast. Yes it was one of the very few mainstream chats where the host wasn't trying for gotachas, it was more of a life story type thing. As obviously the neutral bbc wouldn't have him on their version on the show.
(fyi, you'll identify that you are talking a load of cobblers).
The whole concept is absolutely daft anyway, that politicians are meant to be altruistic. It's in the job description to be self promoting. Due you think that the 'king of the north' isn't in it for himself?
(fyi, you'll identify that you are talking a load of cobblers).
The whole concept is absolutely daft anyway, that politicians are meant to be altruistic. It's in the job description to be self promoting. Due you think that the 'king of the north' isn't in it for himself?
There are levels. As politicians go Farage is an elite in it for himself guy. Well ahead of the rest of the field in UK politics. Starmer has let power go to his head. If you watched that link I've given, you might understand why and how.
Musk used to be a decent fellow, until power and probably his trans child corrupted him. Trump always been a nasty individual. He's just ratcheted up the nastiness and is in a league of his own in the West. Farage is some way off both, but leads the UK field.
It's a common tactic by corrupt individuals to say everyone is at it. It's BS
It's a common tactic by corrupt individuals to say everyone is at it. It's BS
I'd have Starmer below Theresa May David Cameron and Rishi Sunak but well above Johnson and Liz Truss in the in it for himself stakes. Farage below Johnson but above Truss
Has anyone in history made more money than Blair, after leaving the job?
How long has the country voted to eradicate immigration?
err, never
I know we like to think everyone's forgotten and then just make things up that suit our preferred narrative but the UK has never voted in a party whose manifesto said it would eradicate immigration. At least not in my lifetime.
err, never
I know we like to think everyone's forgotten and then just make things up that suit our preferred narrative but the UK has never voted in a party whose manifesto said it would eradicate immigration. At least not in my lifetime.
For several manifestos it was 10s of thousands (arguing that some highly skilled immigrants are a benefit).
Then Brexit (biggest vote ever)
Then the Brexit election (biggest majority for many years).
Then 1 million+ immigrants within a year
What do you do when you repeatedly win the argument, win the vote, and the people elected specificially on that mandate either ignore it, or do the complete opposite?
Then Brexit (biggest vote ever)
Then the Brexit election (biggest majority for many years).
Then 1 million+ immigrants within a year
What do you do when you repeatedly win the argument, win the vote, and the people elected specificially on that mandate either ignore it, or do the complete opposite?
On my journey through the constituency this morning I spotted 3 labour posters and 18 reform.
I think people aren't that stupid as it goes, none of the traditional parties are going to stop importing people. Whatever they may promise.
Of course, eventually there will be so many imported people that the politicians won't have to bother lying, the liberalists will be elected by default. See London, Brum, Leicester et al.
Of course, eventually there will be so many imported people that the politicians won't have to bother lying, the liberalists will be elected by default. See London, Brum, Leicester et al.
Jun 18, 2026 -- 4:50PM, Cider wrote:
For several manifestos it was 10s of thousands (arguing that some highly skilled immigrants are a benefit).Then Brexit (biggest vote ever)Then the Brexit election (biggest majority for many years).Then 1 million+ immigrants within a year What do you do when you repeatedly win the argument, win the vote, and the people elected specificially on that mandate either ignore it, or do the complete opposite?
A correction. Progress.
PorcupineorPineapple 18 Jun 26 16:39
How long has the country voted to eradicate immigration?
err, never
........................
None so blind.............................
How long has the country voted to eradicate immigration?
err, never
........................
None so blind.............................
Andy Burnham has been reported to the police over an alleged breach of lockdown rules.
The claim is said to centre around the number of teenagers present at a property when the fire service arrived to tackle a blaze on the in the early hours of June 10, 2021.
As firefighters put out the inferno, the teenagers were collected - apparently by their families, they said.
was there any Cake ?
As firefighters put out the inferno, the teenagers were collected - apparently by their families, they said.
was there any Cake ?
Jun 18, 2026 -- 5:04PM, saddo wrote:
PorcupineorPineapple 18 Jun 26 16:39
Saddo,
The floor is yours. Do please feel free to prove me wrong.
The floor is yours. Do please feel free to prove me wrong.
I've got my biggest liability since Trump to win by a landslide in the 2021 Presidential election on this market. Only the spectre of AC's preventing it being bigger. Third biggest ever after that and Le Pen in 2017 or 18.
PorcupineorPineapple 18 Jun 26 17:24
Saddo,
The floor is yours. Do please feel free to prove me wrong.
........................
A difficult ask without writing to millions, how about you prove yourself correct?
Saddo,
The floor is yours. Do please feel free to prove me wrong.
........................
A difficult ask without writing to millions, how about you prove yourself correct?
It was 2020 not 2021, but it dragged on for so long that it felt like 2021.
USA deported lots of English and Irish immigrants in the 19th century. Often on the boat they arrived on
USA deported lots of English and Irish immigrants in the 19th century. Often on the boat they arrived on
Presumably that is laying restore. Effectively free money but I couldn't be ar$$ed. I'm +10p labour, but no liability
Jun 18, 2026 -- 5:29PM, saddo wrote:
PorcupineorPineapple 18 Jun 26 17:24
Saddo,
Let google be your friend. If you find one winning GE manifesto from the last twenty years or so promising to eradicate immigration I'll be all apologies.
Let google be your friend. If you find one winning GE manifesto from the last twenty years or so promising to eradicate immigration I'll be all apologies.
These lockdown accusations could be massive , If charged would he be able to run for PM ?
Sir Shameless is devoid of embarrassment. He knows he's going to be discharged from his office (forcefully) yet he's offering Mr Burnham who he'd refused permission to run in an earlier by-election a seat on his Cabinet post Makerfield.
How gracious Sir Shameless! He and his side-kick the Chancellor Ms Reeves will be history very soon.
How gracious Sir Shameless! He and his side-kick the Chancellor Ms Reeves will be history very soon.
Somebody just took everything on Restore from 100 down to 40.
Now drifting back out again.
He is trying everything he can to stay, no matter how much ridicule he gets.
Is there something worse than ridicule awaiting him when he's out of the door?
It really is a puzzle.
Is there something worse than ridicule awaiting him when he's out of the door?
It really is a puzzle.
Sir Shameless will be praying that Burnham is at least investigated , Could buy him a couple of months
on the telegraph pod, Farage said he would be a seller at 7% for restore. and they will get their highest ever % in a by election. essentially close, in a losing race. a note of caution perhaps that his bit was recorded before today
good luck with your bets, i've closed my positions, won't be waiting up for this one
Watching the (only) restore bloke on GBnews....
Another posh, privately educated silver spoon type.
Another posh, privately educated silver spoon type.
The market is confident Burnham has it
| UK - By-Elections -- Makerfield by-election |
| 6 Runners £2,152,161 Matched |
| 103.2% | 98.8% | |||||||
| Labour | - | 1.01 | 1.02 | 1.03 | 1.04 | 1.05 | £1,360,891 | |
| £10,229 | £213 | £123 | £217 | £397 | ||||
| Reform | 16 | 22 | 24 | 75 | 80 | 770 | £345,097 | |
| £11 | £2 | £3 | £3 | £2 | £2 | |||
| Restore Britain | 120 | 130 | 150 | 250 | 270 | 290 | £442,287 | |
| £9 | £6 | £1 | £10 | £1 | £1 | |||
| Green | 420 | 430 | 1000 | - | - | - | £3,271 | |
| £1 | £2 | £277 | ||||||
| Conservative | 220 | 300 | 1000 | - | - | - | £363 | |
| £1 | £10 | £449 | ||||||
| Liberal Democrats | 6 | 220 | 1000 | - | - | - | £251 | |
| £100 | £1 | £458 |
friendly handshake with binface and burnham on walk on
Polls got Restore spot on but heavily underestimated Burnham
54.8%
34.5%
6.8%
On my figures
Tories comfortably beat Greens and Lib Dems
54.8%
34.5%
6.8%
On my figures
Tories comfortably beat Greens and Lib Dems
Bloody hell.
That wasn't even close. Two by-elections now where there was talk of tactical voting to defeat Reform, and not needed either time.
That wasn't even close. Two by-elections now where there was talk of tactical voting to defeat Reform, and not needed either time.
Labour crush the right wing - much more than predicted. The electorate see Labour as a safe pair of hands - keeping out the extremists. Starmer obv an issue but unlikely he'll fight another GE.
Feels like Reform have a really big problem in picking candidates. There is a good portion of people who like Farage and for the likes of the locals, where candidate personality and competency is subsumed under banner and simply getting the bins emptied on time, this seems enough. But when it comes to something like this where the focus is much more on the individual they're often found wanting. He needs to spend some of his Thai millions on better selection and training of his minions if he wants to do anything more than shout from the sidelines imo.
Had nothing to do with people voting to get Starmer removed ,your safe pair of Hands has created nothing but Chaos for 2 years AT
"Safe pair of hands". LOLOLOLOL. Taking the p!$$ obviously.
That Is even more preposterous than Starmer's absurd claim that the voters chose Labour over something he called "Division and Hate".
Do you REALLY have to believe all that rubbish if you are on the "Progressive" Left?
That Is even more preposterous than Starmer's absurd claim that the voters chose Labour over something he called "Division and Hate".
Do you REALLY have to believe all that rubbish if you are on the "Progressive" Left?
Seems people voted for Burnham not liebor, be careful what you wish for, if you think it cant get any worse for the country you just wait.
dpm, Do you know any reliable plumbers in the Makerfield area. ??
I can see the Tories having a bounce after Aberdeen. I reckon Reform have got a big problem on their hands and I've just had a little nibble on Farage leaving before the end of the year. He'll know the picture better than anyone. The Restore issue for them is huge. Those guys are just gloves off and make Reform look like another bunch of establishment goons (which, let's face it, they are or are at least trying to be). Add in Elon's algorithm and that vote is only going in one direction. Meanwhile Badenoch is quietly making the Tories look close to competent again. Reform are almost doing the splits trying to keep the two factions of their voter base together. Add in the whole working for foreign billionaires, the links to Trump and the incompetence of their candidates then I just don't see how it holds for them.
Has Our Andy got the 81 MPs together yet? Get a move on lad
Funniest thing is the labour loony tune lefties and the left media thickos thinking reform losing this local by election, is a such a big win for them.
Where the reality is that Labour winning this is probably the most undesired outcome for the labour government.
Should and hopefully bring an end to this woeful and inadequate labour government before 2029.
Here’s hoping…..
Where the reality is that Labour winning this is probably the most undesired outcome for the labour government.
Should and hopefully bring an end to this woeful and inadequate labour government before 2029.
Here’s hoping…..
Andy Burnham will be PM by the time Parliament shuts up shop next month. In the meantime the steward up the British Legion is predicting a heatwave with temperatures up to 100C will begin this weekend. He reckons it'll last until Eclipse Day at Sandown. I'm off to Turkey for a week July 13 - July 20. I dare say it'll be warm enough out there as well. 
a lot of very delicious salty tears on here today
The process may start by then, but it will be very difficult to finalise. More likely we have a new PM announced at the Labour conference in September. Also, it is the least disruptive to both Labour and country.
I didnt expect (or bet) Burnham to take so many votes off reform but it stacks up in hindsight.
Restore was a bit of an underwhelming momentum killer. They may have just reached their full potential very quickly and replaced UKIP/ brexit party etc as the non establishment vote.. 3 thousand odd votes out of 75 thousand. Either they have a very shy vote or a very lazy vote. Or they are struggling to spell X on the ballot paper
Restore was a bit of an underwhelming momentum killer. They may have just reached their full potential very quickly and replaced UKIP/ brexit party etc as the non establishment vote.. 3 thousand odd votes out of 75 thousand. Either they have a very shy vote or a very lazy vote. Or they are struggling to spell X on the ballot paper
Restore matched bets £450,000 approx. Reform matched bets £350,000 approx.
Restore backed at 44 on Thurs morning, still being backed @ 100 at midnight last night.
Restore never polled over 10%. Was this betting influenced by Polymarket? A mad bot-led X.com community?
Restore backed at 44 on Thurs morning, still being backed @ 100 at midnight last night.
Restore never polled over 10%. Was this betting influenced by Polymarket? A mad bot-led X.com community?
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