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Trump second fav for RNom on Kalshi at 10%, implies he would be at least similar price to Vivek and RDS on here and maybe shorter.
Lara edging closer to senate. . https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-spoke-to-desantis-about-choosing-lara-trump-for-florida-senate-seat-42b37fe6?mod=latest_headlines | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Jr tied with Vance.
2028 National Republican Primary • Donald Trump Jr. — 30% • JD Vance — 30% • Ron DeSantis — 9% • Nikki Haley — 6% • Vivek Ramaswamy — 5% • Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — 5% • Sarah Huckabee Sanders — 1% • Marco Rubio — 1% • Tucker Carlson — 1% • Greg Abbott — 1% • Brian Kemp — 1% • Glenn Youngkin — 1% --- • Someone else — 5% @MorningConsult | 12/6-8 | n=994 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I did a few bets and will probably just leave it like this, as I don't want to follow it non stop.
I'm not sure I could even make a case that Gallego is value at 85. My thinking is that the Dems are going to rightly or wrongly conclude that they can't go with a woman again because 'people are misogynist/not ready for it' Not that they will say this, maybe even to each other, but I think donors will have big doubts about Whitmer orasny female for these reasons. They may be totally wrong and the previous 2 lost because they were both crap candidates in different ways, but IMO they will be going with a guy. Gallego ticks a lot of boxes, and I think they may want to skip a generation in 2028. If he is effective in his first 2 years as Senator then people will get behind him like they did with Obama. Wes Moore could maybe be a strong candidate and I might look to green up on him later. The other reds I don't see having a path. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I followed it non stop in 2024 and made £48K, would have been £60Kish if Kamala won, guess it works out about minimum wage over 4 years though, and I may have gotten lucky with a big green on Kamala before the Biden debate.
I'm already in deep here that I will have to follow it again or have money tied up for a long time, I've been laying almost everyone, with 70ish runners to be added about 90% of the current field is probably priced too low IMO, which is why I'm trying to get runners added when they're hot, DJT would be a good addition. BeShear looks like he will run, not sure about Gallego but he has a good profile. Rahm Emanuel the first Dem that is reported to be exploring a run, not heard of him but former Obama chief of staff. I'm not sure why the Reps have a significant edge in the winning party market, 1.75R/2.32D, 57%/43%. Dems actually slightly ahead on other sites and with 4 years to go and no incumbent it looks 50/50. It would probably work out to be backing the dems at odds on when 4 years of lost capital returns is taken into account though, so no value. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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2028 National Republican Primary
• J.D. Vance — 25% • Donald Trump Jr. — 21% • Ron DeSantis — 9% • Nikki Haley — 4% • Vivek Ramaswamy — 4% • Tim Scott — 3% • Tulsi Gabbard — 2% • Glenn Youngkin — 2% • Sarah Huckabee Sanders — 2% • Marco Rubio — 2% • Kristi Noem — 1% • Tom Cotton — 1% • Greg Abbott — 1% • Rick Scott — 1% • Elise Stefanik — 0.4% • Larry Hogan — 0.2% --- • Undecided — 24% McLaughlin and Assoc | 12/11-16 | 463 2028 National Democratic Primary • Kamala Harris — 35% • Pete Buttigieg — 12% • Gavin Newsom — 7% • Josh Shapiro — 5% • Tim Walz — 5% • Beto O'Rourke — 3% • A. Ocasio-Cortez — 3% • J.B. Pritzker — 3% • Gretchen Whitmer — 3% • Cory Booker — 2% • Amy Klobuchar — 1% • Wes Moore — 1% • Phil Murphy — 1% • Deval Patrick — 1% • Jared Polis — 0.4% --- • Undecided — 19% McLaughlin and Assoc. | 12/11-12 | 428 LV Pete B clear second here and he was second in another poll since the election. It'll be interesting if he runs for MI governor in 2026 and how that affects his potential running in 2028 for the top. Newsom and Whitmer fallen back from their summer polling in polls since the election, voters probably looking past an oven-ready candidate. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I followed it non stop in 2024 and made £48K, would have been £60Kish if Kamala won, guess it works out about minimum wage over 4 years though
That's fantastic though Blank! You can't really look it at as an hourly wage, as betting is fun and I'm sure you have other markets and other income. I won 600 odd and I didn't really see how I could have scaled it up much by betting a lot bigger, as the best value i got would typically be £2 bets on candidates with low liquidity, when £2 was all that could be matched at the price. To win big you have to take strong positions on the current odds of the main candidates where the money is, and be right most times. OR build huge greens on no hopers at 900+ that then become contenders. The latter could have worked out for me on Beshear & Moore but then Biden nixed the mini primary. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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• Donald Trump Jr. — 21%
I can't help think that some people being polled see or hear 'Donald Trump Jr' and think 'Donald Trump yay!' | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Yes you are right. I shouldn't be disappointed, my biggest market to date. When the market first started I was thinking of the £2BN+ 2020 market and hoping for the same matched, if 2024 had another billion and half matched I think I would have doubled or trebled my profit.
I tended to group some of the main candidates together the first few years, I knew some of their odds had to be wrong but I didn't know which. I think around 3 years out Trump and DeSantis were evens dutched and all the republicans were 1.5, the winning party market was about 1.75 I think, so I'd lay every republican and then a couple of months later back them back at 1.7+, (I could have also hedged in winning party market). Then repeated the cycle when it ebbed and flowed every few months. I don't know what to take from the Trump JR polling. He isn't going to run against his pick Vance. There was an Emerson poll last month that had Trump Snr on 23%, similar to what Jr is getting so they're likely interchangeable. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Please note that candidates in this market will not be partially settled and will remain in the market until it is fully settled. This is to allow customers to continue trading candidates that they have positions on and because each candidate is still a valid runner in this market. The only exception is if a candidate dies before they are elected in which case we will partially settle that candidate as a loser.
I was reading the rules for this market the other day. The bit in bold is new from the 2024 market I believe. I don't think it will change how the market operates significantly but probably more layers around for an instant pay-out if someone dies, and maybe shores up the VP's in the final stretch. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I think the LA fires have done for Newsom?
He is getting blamed, really squirming when trying to defend himself. No one on the left bothered to defend him much. He missed his chance I think. Should have just challenged Biden at start of primaries. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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don j t not in the market?
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Elissa Slotkin to give the Dem response to Trump's State of the Union address
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Also I backed Mark Kelly@200
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Trump Snr now listed at billy mountains, 5/1 second favourite, C'mon Betfair get him up!
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-term-white-house-methods-rcna198752
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He should be added now he has expressed interest. Betfair should be facilitating betting on candidates in which there is interest, not getting involved in moral/ political stances. He is listed on US regulated sites and now UK ones.
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What price would settle at ?
There is absolutely zero chance of Trump winning in 2028, but I guess it would be sub 100 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Depends on where the mad right wing money takes it.
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what we need is a market for who will be potus on jan 21 2029 - there are a few things the don can try which don't necessarily involve winning the 2028 election
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I'd probably be a backer at above 100 to start with. My guess would be 20-50. I think it is all bluff but he might keep it going for a few years so he doesn't appear a lame duck.
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Well, Smarkets had a crazy market at the last election where only one result was possible but the extreme right wing MAGA nuts kept piling on the guaranteed loser. It was money for nothing. Hopefully they will come up with something similar.
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he might keep it going for a few years so he doesn't appear a lame duck.
yes he will want to continue to strike fear into the hearts of republican lawmakers ![]() | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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That must be it. They should have a magic button similar to cashout that lets people back 'any other' more easily, that way instead of people backing Trump at 5/1 on oddschecker they could back him at the same price on here, and get all the other candidates to be added included in their bet.
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Betfair could easily offer a side market
Trump not to run Trump to run and lose Trump to run and win Trump to seize power anyway ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The $markets market
Donald Trump to serve as president for 9+ years by end of 2030 No 1.12 Yes 7.4 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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That's a much better market than Trump to win the 2028 elections. Betfair should do that.
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...But Betfair should nonetheless really add Trump to the election market.
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If you lay everybody quoted, you are backing trump.
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i still say it should be who will be potus on 21/01/2029
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Looks like Chump is determined to make an omlette!
Stoopid speculation that he will be running in 2028. He will be gawn by the midterms. 25th! As egg prices have reached record highs, about a third of American consumers have stopped buying them in response to the rising costs, a new study suggests. According to research from Clarify Capital, 34% of Americans have stopped purchasing eggs as prices for the breakfast staple are becoming less affordable. On average, these consumers say they won’t begin buying eggs again until costs come down to $5 or less for a carton. The report compared the average price of eggs across all US states, observing a significant jump in 2018, when the average was $1.49. In 2025, that figure is sitting at about $5.18. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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AOC is 2nd favourite
![]() I never wanted to get involved with this again but am over £500 red on her Now wish I'd layed all the 1000s when they were 600-900 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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There's so many no hopers and impossibles in the market at 50 to 150 it's tempting to get stuck in.
Like you, I'm trying not to get involved, but there are opportunities. I backed Trump Jr at 46 in January then laid him at 20 in early march. (27 currently) I've not looked at it since then. G'luck on AOC, you're on to a winner(IMHO) but you might be red on her quite a while because she's in the news a lot. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Betfair should put Trump in the market, he's declared his intention to run and he's got the power to suspend the constitution so he's got a greater than zero chance.
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Newsom, Buttigieg and Pritzker almost certain to run, AOC way down in likelihood of running imo.
Buttigieg the favourite right now for me. I was cautious a few months ago when he was rumoured to be mulling MI gov or senate but now it looks very likely he is running for Prez. Second in polling and top without Harris, strong name ID granted but he won the debates and came a very close second in the early primaries in 2020, surely better positioned now. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Last time I asked about Trump they said they're not going to add him because he is ineligible, sounded quite definitive, they probably should have stated that right away.
Still loads of names they could add which would automatically push up the prices on everyone currently listed. Raimondo, Bannon, Abbott, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Byron Donalds, Jared Polis, Cooper, Stefanik, Burgum, Jamie Dimon. Layers are at the mercy of Betfair adding names. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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2028 could be a repeat of 2024 (demented old man clings on to power to long and hastily replaced at the last moment by lame duck VP after ludicrous TV debate)
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This is a lesson in how to be a proper TDS bro, you have to believe every imaginary made up issue, like "Trump isn't going to step down", "there are fascists everywhere" etc. Classic TDS bro lesson.
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Can't believe I could lay Bernie Sanders at sub 200. He will be 87 years old in 2028.
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