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Forget wind and solar, we should just attach dynamos to cider's and johnny's fingers.
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A married couple can't have two tax free homes , regardless of whose name they are owned in , or where they live. One of these properties become taxable from the day they marry.
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And why can’t it be the husbands house that is due to pay CGT
If she owns one house and sells it why is that house not exempt ? |
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She doesn’t own two houses , just one
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What if they wern’t married but living together sometimes ?
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I covered those points at 8.51.
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If you aren't married then each of you can have a tax free home , but when you marry you only get one.
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Yeah I know that … why ?
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In 1990 a fundamental reform in personal taxes was implemented
Under the new system of independent taxation, all individuals became responsible for their own tax affairs, and married couples were assessed for income tax and capital gains tax as separate persons. |
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The then chancellor , Nigel Lawson , in his 1988 budget speech said
when first announcing its introduction ; “ the present system takes the income of a married woman as if it belonged to her husband. Quite simply, that is no longer acceptable “ |
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ToryBoy rage rages on
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.......and on...and on....and on ....
WADC |
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Imagine how different this thread would be had Rayner been a Tory MP.
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Imagine how different this thread would be had there been any actual evidence.
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Rayner's evasion is evidence enough that something dodgy went on.
But whatever went on is nothing compared to the 10s of billions spaffed by Johnson and Truss. |
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More damning headlines.
Why won't she come clean and explain what is going on ? She has received advice confirming her affairs are in order - she can remove the heat but chooses to bluff it out. It makes no sense - she demands transparency in the taxation of others, but chooses to dodge questions regarding her own property deals - What does she want to keep hidden ? Her political career is over if she doesn't come clean - this won't get just forgotten. |
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Her political career is over if she doesn't come clean What political career? Rayner is a rabble rouser, a standard bearer. She is there to deliver traditional Labour voters to Starmer. These voters don't give a fcuk about a few thousand i CGT. A roll in the Labour party's machinery awaits her after the election. |
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Either she evaded tax , which is illegal and a matter for the tax authorities police and courts
or she didn’t and allls good . It’s also characteristic of the hypocrisy and evasiveness of the Labour Party including sir Kier and those who vote Labour generally |
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Cabinet minister Hazel Blears confirmed she is
to resign, becoming the latest high profile minister to leave pm Gordon Browns’ struggling Labour government Blears said she would pay £13,332 in capital gains tax she had avoided on the sale of a London property Blears had told tax authorities it was her main residence, though for parliamentary purposes she had said it was a second home thus qualifying for expense awards |
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Johnny still desperate to PROVE she has done something wrong.
Should Chump come clean too? Why shouldn’t Little Riche ie “ come clean “ and post his last 15 years Tax Returns? Michelle Mone has had had £29 million of tax payer money deposited into an Off Shore Trust and Johnny wants to have Angela Raynah investigated when there is no evidence she has done anything wrong. What a waste of Police time and an unnecessary political prosecution for what? |
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Johnny still desperate to PROVE she has done something wrong.
Should Chump come clean too? Why shouldn’t Little Riche ie “ come clean “ and post his last 15 years Tax Returns? Michelle Mone has had had £29 million of tax payer money deposited into an Off Shore Trust and Johnny wants to have Angela Raynah investigated when there is no evidence she has done anything wrong. What a waste of Police time and an unnecessary political prosecution for what? |
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Meanwhile the “ corrupt “ Labour Party look likely to be forming the next majority Government and the Honest Conservative Oarty look like they will retain less than 100 seats.
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Criminal charges : false accounting tax evasion
David Chaytor ( Labour ) 18 months imprisonment Jim Devine ( Labour ) 16 months Eric Illsey (Labour ) 12 months Denis McShane ( Labour) 6 months Margaret Moran ( Labour ) 2 year supervision and treatment order ( judge added some might think she got away with it ) Elliot Morley ( Labour ) 16 months |
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The longer she obfuscates the guiltier she looks.
She has gone well past the point of " It's very complicated. - I made a mistake. How much do I owe ? " The cover up is now worse than the crime. |
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More damning headlines.
Finally. Can you please share them and the evidence they contain. |
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Not really Johnny
She promised to show hers if Richie shows his She has made a fool of most who are questioning her. Where is the EVIDENCE? Finger pointing tongue wagging is not EVIDENCE Meanwhile Michelle Mone and her children have £29 million in Tax Payer money for her and hire CHILDREN in an Offshore Account. Why are you not more vexed about this? Do you have a Political axe to grind? |
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Going to the airport soon, but will hopefully be able to check in and see the evidence Jonny kindly shares from those headlines. Should be good.
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FACT - She purchased the ex council house in 2007
FACT - She sold the ex council house in 2015 FACT - She made a profit of £48,500 FACT - She got married in 2010. FACT - She paid no Capital Gains Tax on the £48,500 Between 2010 - 2015 the evidence indicates that she lived with her family in her husband's property. Legal opinion on her apparent assertions ,("apparent" - because strangely she won't actually state where she lived during that period), that she continued to live away from the rest of her family during the 2010-2015 period. "No jury would believe her" says top barrister. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13256101/Angela-Rayners-account-controversial-property-dealings-leading-barrister-claims.html . |
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Johnny you assume she paid no CGT. She may well have done so recently.
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No evidence whatsoever
But she must be guilty British Justice? Go to the Police with your information Johnny! |
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Jesus said to them , “ Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s,
and to God the things that are Gods” And they marvelled at him |
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Oh the irony Ms Rayner aided and abetted by kneeler
and Labour mps , milking the working classes ! |
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Yet more damning headlines emerge today - condemned by her own social media.
She wasn't living where she stated she was. Time for her to step aside pending a full investigation - irregularities everywhere - the electoral register , council tax and capital gains tax payments. The people have to follow the rules - we expect the same of those in public office. Question her under police caution. Let's get to the bottom of this. |
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Labour's David Lammy defends Angela Rayner and claims the rules are 'different' when you are in opposition
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The tory fan boys hate her because she didn't go to eaton, even 'SIR' starmer went to a fee paying school (of course).
Left school at 16 with no qualifications & talks like was bought up on a council estate, but even so she runs rings round the etonians and they're staining their trousers at the thought of more like her and (literally)heaven forbid, a meritocracy running the UK. You're going to be smearing her with this for a year, this is all the dirt they can find and there's no new dirt every two weeks like boris, rishi, Truss & cameroon et al. BTW, Cameroon, our Foreign Secretary, Not even an elected MP and hence not answerable to parliament for any decisions he takes to fill his and his mates pockets. Direct rule from Eaton. But... Look at that common speaking woman, what a growler ![]() |
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I talk like I was brought up on a council estate, as I was. Managed to avoid defrauding the taxpayer (so far)
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Georges Mob will take her out
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https://twitter.com/DanNeidle/status/1776941795840307511
https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2024/02/29/rayner/ - he has said no other tax expert has disputed his views. so she may have a case to answer (for a few grand) and it may or may not be a genuine mistake. neidle states that where she actually lived isnt relevant so the latest efforts from the mail seem more than a bit ridiculous. it was probably this chap escapee, dan neidle. |
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I know you're in accountancy Cider, I would have thought you prefer facts to maybe's, but not in this case it seems.
Was talking about myself, definitely a fact that I have not defrauded the taxpayer (so far) ;) |