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The First Lady of Ukraine has urged Britons to continue supporting her country despite the cost-of-living crisis impacting millions across the UK.
Olena Zelenska, wife of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, acknowledged the “very painful choices” facing British people, in an interview with the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg.
When asked what her message would be for Britons “desperately worried” about covering their own expenses amid the UK’s cost-of-living crisis, she said: “Well of course I understand the situation is very tough.”
“The prices are going up in Ukraine as well, but in addition our people get killed.
“So when you start counting pennies on your bank account or your pocket, we do the same and count casualties,” she added.
“We hear that energy is getting pricier, that life is getting pricier, but people should understand that that is not coming through the west’s support to Ukraine, but through the actions of Russia,” she told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.
“People are facing very painful choices because of the soaring cost of energy, that’s going to make things very tough for people.”
Her comments come after Boris Johnson warned British households will “have to endure the cost-of-living crisis” in order to counter Russia’s “inevitable manipulation of energy prices”.
During a visit to Ukraine last week, Mr Johnson said: “We also know that if we’re paying in our energy bills for the evils of Vladimir Putin, the people of Ukraine are paying in their blood.
“And that’s why we know we must stay the course. Because if Putin were to succeed, then no country on Russia’s perimeter would be safe, and... (that) would be a green light for every autocrat in the world that borders could be changed by force.”
Olena Zelenska, wife of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, acknowledged the “very painful choices” facing British people, in an interview with the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg.
When asked what her message would be for Britons “desperately worried” about covering their own expenses amid the UK’s cost-of-living crisis, she said: “Well of course I understand the situation is very tough.”
“The prices are going up in Ukraine as well, but in addition our people get killed.
“So when you start counting pennies on your bank account or your pocket, we do the same and count casualties,” she added.
“We hear that energy is getting pricier, that life is getting pricier, but people should understand that that is not coming through the west’s support to Ukraine, but through the actions of Russia,” she told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.
“People are facing very painful choices because of the soaring cost of energy, that’s going to make things very tough for people.”
Her comments come after Boris Johnson warned British households will “have to endure the cost-of-living crisis” in order to counter Russia’s “inevitable manipulation of energy prices”.
During a visit to Ukraine last week, Mr Johnson said: “We also know that if we’re paying in our energy bills for the evils of Vladimir Putin, the people of Ukraine are paying in their blood.
“And that’s why we know we must stay the course. Because if Putin were to succeed, then no country on Russia’s perimeter would be safe, and... (that) would be a green light for every autocrat in the world that borders could be changed by force.”
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...ask her husband to sell off his properties in Londongrad, america and elsewhere before she asks us to dig deeper into our pockets already being rifled day on day.
The war is lost. Russia has won. give it up ffs and stop the slaughter of conscripts being butchered y professional soldiers. All your husband has to do is relinquish his aspirations to take the most corrupt country in Europe into a NATO alignment. Enough is enough. |
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Biden and His Family Involved heavily with Ukraine , Let them send the Money , USA does not have Gas and Lecce problems , so let them Crack on with it , We have sent plenty as is .
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Replace Boris with Zelensky
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putin is a 22 year dictator who will be in power until he dies.
he murders people within and worldwide all opposition is crushed. there are no independent media in russia. they are all in jail or abroad. you get 15 years for criticising russias 'special operation' hes invaded another country, resulting in 10s of thousands of civilian deaths. for his own messianic faith in mother russia. and hes already invaded georgia and retains a portion of it hes a grotesquely rich neo-fascist who has massively enriched himself and his cronies while the russian people have nothing hes waged cyber-war against the baltic states for 20 years. because of this those fascistic states sweden and finland want to join nato. maybe they want to invade russia? if you listen to russain state tv, they do. he invaded crmimea 8 years ago, and denied it was happening, until it became undeniable. he then moved in irregulars into eastern ukraine, and lied again. nothing to do with russia he said. but it so was and you deride zelensky. what do you think of putin? and the invasion of crimea happened 6 months after ukraine made overtures to the e.u. that well-known fascist group. nato was the spectre raised by putin. picked up by mugs like you. its nothing to do with it. he couldnt get away with saying he wants ukraine so he put up the nato nonsense and wanchors like you picked it up and ran with it. the useful idiots are still useful tempted to think you are a bot but i cant beleive the ira would create one so stupid |
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I tell you what im sick off.... how far down the road to filth we are and your still met with agressive push back from the flock public
When do they finally admit to themselves he /she could have a point? |
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I was randomly looking at google maps the other day and it struck me just how phuckin big Russia is... 11 time zones, it crosses half the planet.
I'm baffled why Russia/putin wants more territory |
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you are a moron. fo. you said it was simulation.
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It can easily be infiltrated because of how big it is as well, its not defendable and they dont even have their own gas either its pilfered from under other countries ,they seem to have bagged it for themselves though... logic? Not here
Its a sh!t hole wasteland stretching 1000s of miles, why the feck would anyone want half of it, the best part of it is near Americas. |
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urrgh. ive been boring on so long about this. you are easily baffled. its nothing to do with it. he looks at the russian empire and sees how much is gone. hes a disciple of a proto-fascist psuedo philospher ivan ilyin. he quotes him regularly. a 24 carat loon.
russia will always be the biggest state. but to putin, a secret policeman who applied to join as a teenager(bit of a clue there. who does that?) its only lost territory since the demise of the murderous soviet empire that only dominated by force. you think estonia or kazakstan or lithuania wanted to be be part of the soviet empire? er. no. the lack of support they got from the west was a disgrace. they were occupied by the red army and what chance did they have? none. if you meet one ask em. they were brutalised by the soviets for 70 years. and putin described the end of this vicious dictatorship as ' the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century'. i doubt many of those who suffered would say the same. russia/ ussr is not the same thing. although putin thinks it is. how is kyrgystan russian? or uzbekistan. not at all. they are mongol states thate were stolen by the ussr because of their massive resources. and he supports their grotesquely corrupt 'presidents' to obtain said resources. |
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If anyone believes putin wants to take possession of Ukraine they must have shoite for brains.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1566404765700980738
Desperate Times in kyev |
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why are those fit and able ukrainees not at the front fighting Putin's war machine?
boogie nights ah ha ah ha boogie nights keep sending us your billions ha ha. |
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thousands dead and you think its funny. what a creature you are.
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Bit Strange that the Kyev locals are all tanked up at a Disco .. Thought it was Lights out During a war , Putin mean't to be overtaking Ukraine, we were Told a massive Convoy was 40 Miles from Kyev About 3 months Back , What happened to that ?
What kind of a war is it when you are trying to Overtake a country and could presumably level its Capital ,But don't ? Never heard of any war between two Countries where the Main Town is not targeted ..Are we sure Putin wants to Take the whole of Ukraine ? |
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well if you don't know what happened to the convoy or why the offensive action on kyev
was unsuccessful then you obviously have very little interest beyond asking stupid questions. |
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leif • September 4, 2022 9:17 PM BST
...ask her husband to sell off his properties in Londongrad, america and elsewhere before she asks us to dig deeper into our pockets already being rifled day on day. The war is lost. Russia has won. give it up ffs and stop the slaughter of conscripts being butchered y professional soldiers. All your husband has to do is relinquish his aspirations to take the most corrupt country in Europe into a NATO alignment. Enough is enough. What leads to that conclusion? |
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What happened to this mighty Russian war machine we heard so much about?
That threatened to overwhelm Europe, and even threaten the shores of Britain. Should we believe anything they tell us about Russia? Too many dopes like mitoilet about. |
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How is German rearmament going? They should be defending the eastern frontier of their new empire. If Trump gets reelected they could be in for a shock regarding NATO.
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The Russians always tell everyone on their state TV it's Britain that's behind everything.
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So you Nazis go and do rearmament to defend your Naziempire and your masterminded artificial anti-russian nazi state called Ukraine.
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Not our empire, we left it to you and Ursie vdL. Let your Frenchies do the fighting for you until you can build more tanks and artillery, they have an army of sorts and the nukes.
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You masterminded Ukraine. Stop denying it. The Russians told me.
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Nor is there any denying you pull all the strings with the EU.
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I don't North Perhaps you would like to Enlighten me , Can you also Tell me why the Russians have not flattened Kyev while you are at it .
Great News that a full football League Season is also now taking Place ,I would presume there are no night games , Floodlit stadiums might become a target ,Spec if the off Duty AZOV supporters are in attendance . |
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If Trump gets re elected ..
There wont be a war ,and he certainly wont be sending billions to Joes Partners in Kyev . |
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edy05 Sep 22 14:19Joined: 13 Dec 06 | Topic/replies: 262,272 | Blogger: edy's blog You masterminded Ukraine. Stop denying it. The Russians told me. Nah, the Russians are playing at "let's pretend we're Prussians". They even ordered the spikey helmets from a manufacturer in Koenigsberg (oops Kaliningrad) but decided at the last moment that would give the game away. |
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Well said Wodger
 Roger Waters has written an open letter to the first lady of Ukraine, Olena Zelenska, seeking her support in persuading her husband to “stop the slaughter” by pursuing a ceasefire at the expense of control over two eastern Ukrainian regions. The 79-year-old English musician started off his letter by writing: “My heart bleeds for you and all the Ukrainian and Russian families, devastated by the terrible war in Ukraine.” Referring to Zelenska’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg interview that aired on BBC News this week, Waters pointed out a statement where she said: “If support for Ukraine is strong, the crisis will be shorter.” The Pink Floyd co-founder questioned her statement, writing: “Hmmm? I guess that might depend on what you mean by ‘support for Ukraine’? “If by ‘support for Ukraine’ you mean the west continuing to supply arms to the Kyiv government’s armies, I fear you may be tragically mistaken.” Waters added that “throwing fuel, in the form of armaments, into a firefight, has never worked to shorten a war in the past, and it won’t work now,” as in this case, “most of the fuel is (a) being thrown into the fire from Washington DC, which is at a relatively safe distance from the conflagration, and (b) because the ‘fuel throwers’ have already declared an interest in the war going on for as long as possible.” The Is This The Life We Really Want? singer suggested that “in order to achieve a different outcome,” instead of being dependent on the west for support, “we may have to seek a different route” and that route may lie in president Volodymyr Zelensky’s “previously stated good intentions”. In the rest of the letter, Waters referred to the promises that the Ukrainian president made during his 2019 election campaign. These included the promise to “end the civil war in the east and bring peace to the Donbas and partial autonomy to Donetsk and Luhansk” as well as “ratify the Minsk-II agreement” which sought to secure a ceasefire between the Ukrainian government and Russia-backed separatists in the east of the country. “One can only assume that your husband’s electoral policies didn’t sit well with certain political factions in Kyiv and that those factions persuaded your husband to diametrically change course ignoring the peoples mandate (sic),” Waters wrote. “Sadly, your old man agreed to those totalitarian, anti-democratic dismissals of the will of the Ukrainian people, and the forces of extreme nationalism that had lurked, malevolent, in the shadows, have, since then, ruled the Ukraine. “They have, also since then, crossed any number of red lines that had been set out quite clearly over a number of years by your neighbors the Russian Federation and in consequence they, the extreme nationalists, have set your country on the path to this disastrous war.” Waters ended his letter by asking Zelenska to help him “persuade our leaders to stop the slaughter”. “Might it not be better to demand the implementation of your husband’s election promises and put an end to this deadly war?” he asked. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/roger-waters-olena-zelenska-ukraine-russia-b2160521.html |
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People like Roger Waters are also probably aware that certain people including Western leaders don't want the killing to end.
They're happy to let others die for their goals. What has Boris done towards ending the war for instance? Nothing. He even threw cold water on peace talks saying they won't work. He prefers to supply Ukraine with arms to perpetuate the war. |
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The poor Ukrainian people used as cannon fodder
It's absolutely despicable The military industrial complex & Biden/Obama/Clintons ECSTATIC $$$$$$$$$ |
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Us (Us, us, us, us, us) and them (Them, them, them, them)
And after all we're only ordinary men Me (Me, me, me, me, me) and you (You, you, you, you, you) God only knows it's not what we would choose to do "Forward" he cried from the rear And the front rank died The general sat and the lines on the map Moved from side to side Roger Waters Russsians slaughtering other Russians madness |
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Russsians slaughtering other Russians
What's better than watching you enemies fighting amongst themselves? The war in Ukraine is a classic example of divide and conquer. |
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Nice to see you guys fully aligned with Ukrainians not even existing and them really being Russians.
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The success of kremlin speech reaching and manipulating you guys would bring tears to ol' Daddy Vladimir.
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5+ billion a month
Obviously true cost much much higher Czech  youtube.com/watch?v=VdN9cD6nZcU |
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Money laundering on speed
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Putin commits murders abroad ,such as Salisbury/Syria and many other places ,has raped Russia ,stole Crimea ,stole children and the evil tyrant has probably caused over 50k deaths in Ukraine as well as war crimes.
Would we give up the wonderful counties of Lancs + Yorks' if invaded ,to appease the barsteward and to bring your leccy bill down. The chief sad old bearded/sandaled hippy (Corbyn) speaks and his disciples whine. |
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/\ China next
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That's standard propaganda flat16, set the opposition leader up as the target for criticism like he performed every action personally.
Create a monster in their leader. Did you see any Western leaders treated like that when we were breaking up the Middle East? You need to try and see what’s going on. It’s not as clear cut as they'd have you believe. |