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Is the Union Jack a "hate" icon ?

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By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 16:13
The Union Jack is the most recognisable flag in the world
Everyone knows it in every corner of the world from the deserts of Africa and to the Eskimo in the North Pole
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 16:14
No doubt a host of bigots complained about it irishone.
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 16:16
"Everyone knows it in every corner of the world from the deserts of Africa and to the Eskimo in the North Pole"

you have met them all have you !
WADC
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 16:17
When buying food I always look for either
The Union Flag emblem or The Saltire.
By:
saddo
When: 28 Jul 22 16:19
irishone 28 Jul 22 16:16 
"Everyone knows it in every corner of the world from the deserts of Africa and to the Eskimo in the North Pole"

you have met them all have you !
WADC

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irishone 28 Jul 22 15:39 
"For many ordinary British people, the Union Jack was almost toxic. WADC
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 16:19
How do you know irishone?
Have you met them all?

WAD
(Not a mistake - think of Manfred Mann)
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 16:20
"The Kingdom of Ireland, which had existed as a personal union with England since 1541, was unrepresented in the original versions of the Union Jack.[50] However, the flag of the Protectorate from 1658 to 1660 was inescutcheoned with the arms of Ireland. These were removed at the Restoration, because Charles II disliked them.[51] "


Pity that !  Thats where it all went wrong ....hatred for the flag probably started then
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 16:23
Who can forget the classic Janes Bond skiing off the mountain - and then the Union Jack parachute !! opens
And the opening theme tune comes in .   Wonderful Happy
By:
lapsy pa
When: 28 Jul 22 16:24
Akabula you didn't even know the red saltire represented St Patrick,you thought it was NI.
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 16:26
the flag is hated
it represents imperialism
...and the facists right wing mindset
highly apparent in this thread
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 16:27
Contrary to the authorised history propounded in English history books, of democracy and steam travel brought to the undeveloped world, the British empire brought little benefit to its subject nations. Instead they were relentlessly exploited and disrespected. It is estimated, for example, that 97% of the wealth generated in India during the imperial regime flowed to Britain, 3% to India.

In other cases their population was enslaved, their independence movements violently crushed; this is why the flag of the nation that oppressed them is hated around the globe.

What of the nations that were not part of the British Empire? What reason have they to hate this flag? China, for example, was weakened and impoverished by British initiation of the ‘Opium Wars’, which disproportionately benefitted British trade. Britain used ‘soft power’ in addition to its usual military conquest model, to control world trade and influence.

Why is the Union Jack hated more around the world than, say, The Stars and Stripes, even though the US controls a large proportion of the world for its commercial and strategic benefit now? Partly because the US is more cunning, diplomatic in how it exerts its power. Americans have learnt from the British Empire, partly too because of its associations in the world’s eyes: rightly or wrongly America is seen as the land of the free, opportunity for anyone around the world who can get there, and, ironically, a symbol of anti-imperialism.
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 16:27
No lapsy what I said was that it now represented Northern Ireland.
Not my fault if yer not bright enough to see the difference.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 16:27
the Union flag became the Union Jack when it was aboard a Warship
Other countries of course just have flags — only Britain has the Union Jack
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 16:31
It seems to trigger the irishbigit , that’s just his insecurity
By:
lapsy pa
When: 28 Jul 22 16:31
No Akabula,you cannot change it,it was put in for St Patrick, you hadn't a clue,we can revisit the last union jack thread if you want?
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 16:33
irishone flying the flag of bigotry here.
The islanders cheered when they saw the flag.
By:
brentford
When: 28 Jul 22 16:33
It was colonise or be colonised largely in that era, Irish'

France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands etc all involved in those type of projects and competing for many of the places Britain took...none showed empathy for the populations they took control of and raped resources for personal gain...
By:
Pokermonster
When: 28 Jul 22 16:37
Probably the most recognisable flag in the world.

By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 16:37
Wonderful photo aka
By:
Pokermonster
When: 28 Jul 22 16:37
And the most envied.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 16:39
My gosh look at that Union Jack - superb
By:
Pokermonster
When: 28 Jul 22 16:43
Outsells all the other flags on the beach ten to one. Happy
By:
Pokermonster
When: 28 Jul 22 16:45
Check out my pool cue case, LFC.

By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 28 Jul 22 16:57
3 patron saints Confused
Old-school imperialism
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 16:59
Lovely pool case PM.
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 17:00
brilliant


the heat must have got to you lads
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 17:01
you are getting too easy lads !
By:
Pokermonster
When: 28 Jul 22 17:01
Cheers, Mr A.

I had it made by a little fellow in Dublin.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 28 Jul 22 17:03
Believe it or not, the cue was originally made for Alex Higgins, but he didn’t like it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 17:05
Good man pm , that’s lovely to see
By:
irishone
When: 28 Jul 22 17:05
must be raining in gods waiting room.... lfc takes the bait
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 17:07
Of course the world has taken many things from our rich culture
and they won’t be taking the Union Jack unless they want trouble
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 28 Jul 22 17:15
In answer to the question NO!

However it has been hijacked by dark forces
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 28 Jul 22 17:17
I must say I prefer the sparse and minimalist English flag myself.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 17:20
Of course some such as the French and Germans and the south of Ireland etc may not like the Union Jack , granted
But that’s because they behaved badly in the past and they want us to pay for beating them in past wars
But that’s hardly our fault now is it
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 17:22
irishone takes a battering them claims he was only at the wind up.
WAD Laugh
By:
akabula
When: 28 Jul 22 17:24
On this day in 1689 the Great Siege of Londonderry ended.
You been celebrating irish?
asking for a friend....
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Jul 22 17:24
I must admit I quite like these threads Grin
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 28 Jul 22 17:27
I do think there is something very, very wrong that the 3 most contentious flags seem to be USA, UK and Israel. The 3 flags that seem to generate the most ill-will.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 28 Jul 22 17:29
The Blood and Cruelty that the Russian flag represents seems to pass folk by completely and that is

OUTRAGEOUS!
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