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ok , here is what we know : The PSNI made an undisclosed settlement t
to Mrs Brown , and also issued an apology over inadequacies in the RUCs original investigation Now there have been hundreds of unsolved murders over the last 40 years And many more throughout these islands . If there was to be a retrospective and detailed investigation going back over the police investigations into those unsolved murders , Do you think there would be mistakes found to be made in many , and perhaps all of those cases ? Certainly there would without any doubt . That’s what we know . |
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If you have any other evidence lp that shows anyone other than
members of the LVF were guilty of this murder , let us know … |
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Are they like that? do they give undisclosed settlements out willy nilly? Why did they do that?
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Change in the law a few years ago in a ruling against the met police
Hitherto police forces had been immune from claims of negligence The Supreme Court majority ruling ‘ The important point to make is that if the investigation is seriously defective , even if no systemic failures are present , this will be enough to render the police liable ‘ The Yard said it accepted the judgement and unreservedly apologised to the victims , who had been awarded compensation totalling nearly £ 50,000 |
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You don’t know what the country was like intimately lfc
You gave big gif a clue about the Protestant terror gangs and the collusion of the security forces in the murder of many people. You have not got a clue who the terrorists were or are You are part of the problem with your lies and misinformation, a dangerous rat. Vermin need dealing with. |
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^ drivel
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The Alliance party has no priority regarding the constitutional position of Northern Ireland , it accepts that the status quo exists unless democratically voted against by a majority as set out in the GFA . They have no agenda espousing the cause for or against re-joining the EU . The loyalist DUP , the moderate Ulster Unionist , the ultra loyalist TUV ( 1 MLA) , all have staying within the UK as their primary objective at all costs . Sinn Fein and the SDLP both have re unification of Ireland at stated priority levels .
Cannot see how that helps any debate on here , every person who knows anything about NI ( and particularly someone as knowledgeable as you claim to be re events here) knows the party stances . The real unanswered question here at present lfc is your proposal as to how to solve the NI protocol problem . Legally . And without diminishing the UK's international standing . Answer please lfc . |
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Kelly I’m not particularly impressed that the ‘ alliance’ party claims to
respect democracy - although in practice it’s quite another matter Now as to your question regarding the protocol , it can probably stay But the sea border should not . And the south of Ireland and republicans and nationalists should grow up and act responsibly and do the customs checks that they are required to do in EU territory And if the south of Ireland will not accept its responsibilities as an EU member The EU then should as a final resort check the produce coming out of the south of Ireland into France There you go . Now stop whining . |
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Isn't it ironic how the Unionist apologists talk about the "last forty years" without ever mentioning the previous forty and all the totally unnecessary civil rights abuses and work and social deprivations etc;, visited upon the catholic communities, which largely caused the trouble in the first place.
And the biggest apologist is of course lfc1971. The "B" Special spin doctor. |
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lfc, after badgering me about not answering ( your words) how the Alliance party differs from nationalist and unionist parties , you respond blandly that you are not sure about the Alliance party's democracy . There was no question to answer , presumably you were trying to score some point if I answered a question which does not need addressing by anyone with a scintilla of knowledge about life on the ground here in Northern Ireland .
Having failed to gain anything from your continual posts asking for information which you profess to know intimately via your assertive posts re NI ( your own view , skewed I might add) , you answer my question about your (legal) solution to the NI protocol problem by advocating a solution which is against the rules inherent in an international agreement which is backed by most of the countries with which UK is seeking to set up international ( oven ready?) trade deals . The concept inherent in your "solution" implies the return of myriad border posts along the 375 mile border in Ireland , which would replace the few needed at the ports into Northern Ireland . Practical --NO . Legal--No. Daft--Yes. Clutching at straws . Julian Smith this morning appeared from nowhere , thank goodness, asserting that the NI protocol has benefits for NI . As one of the few competent Conservatives around , with a great ( but short) regard by all parties here ( possibly except the 2 ultra unionist voices) it was refreshing to hear some truth from a prominent conservative . Guess that was why he got the chop after he had managed to get the Stormont Executive back in harness after 4 previous NI ministers had failed dismally. Business people here want minor changes to some aspects of the protocol , but economic indicators apparently show that overall the protocol has not affected NI adversely , which could have been the case consistent with the effect of Brexit on the rest of the UK . The ultra unionist view that the NI protocol affects their Britishness is a political invention , designed to deflect voters minds away from faux pas after faux pas committed by them , particularly in relation to Brexit stance when there was a substantial majority across NI in favour of remain . Despite that then largest party telling their supporters that Brexit was a good idea . The NI protocol is a logical solution inherent within the hard Brexit deal , any child could compute it given the parameters extant . But not the DUP and friends , one wonders is there a brain among them. Britishness could be defined as having a British passport . It is my sole passport at the moment , although when world travel returns for us covid avoiders we will probably apply , largely on the grounds of friendlier travel within Europe . . On the other hand in recent years lots of Unionist friends of ours joined the rush for Irish passports , as they are entitled to . What , if anything , does that imply ? Ian Paisley senior would not have allowed any of his supporters to touch an Irish passport in case they were smit , never mind possess one . |
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people who wanted to get Brexit done, don't actually want Brexit to be applied IN THE WAY THEY SAID WAS OVEN READY AND WON AN ELECTION ON.
couldn't make it up. when do these chancers get held to account? |
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DUP failing to join in and help form a badly needed executive in NI .
Jeffrey Donaldson getting elected under false pretences , obviously no intention of taking his MLA position in Stormont . Then nominating Emma Pengelly in his place . She was a candidate in the Belfast south constituency election to Westminster in 2019 . This was always a safe Unionist seat since 1922 through to recently. Thankfully South Belfast voters supported a candidate who was a strong advocate of staying in the EU , and gave a thumbs down to the DUP who had campaigned for Brexit in that period. Claire Hanna ( SDLP) : 27079 votes Emma "Little" Pengelly( DUP): 11678 votes One of the biggest majorities UK wide ( 15041 votes) . The "Little" element in her election material refers to her maiden name . Her father was loyalist terrorist Noel Little , arrested for arms trafficking in the late 1980's . Pandering to the ultra loyalist vote ? If she disagreed with his activity why did she not just have Emma Pengelly on her election ticket ? Jeffrey just on now , having walked out of forming an executive , shedding crocodile tears about how they want to get an executive up and running . Blaming the EU for everything , when it is actually Boris who shafted him and his party bigtime . You couldn't make it up , but the DUP followers are like sheep when anyone waves a flag . |
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Is it correct the dup went in today to sign the roll just to collect their wages?
Could be a huge backlash here,people struggling and this carry on? |
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Oh , thanks for the reminder loyalhoncho
Of course it is not only the last 40 years that the IRA terrorists have been bombing and murdering innocent men , women and children in N Ireland - but for 100 years And don’t talk nonsense about civil rights , everyone in N Ireland had equal rights and as part of Great Britain and NI were fortunate to live in a country with more freedoms and opportunity than any other country in the world That is the reality . |
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By the way lapsy if the DUP are docked wages
everyone’s wages should be - Stormonts closed |
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You are a clown lfc which is ok because people can laugh at you and also with you
but sometimes the rubbish you produce is really odious. |
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The reality today is the dup went and signed the roll to collect wages with no intention of doing the job of serving the people.
They are lying,the British govt are lying with the reasons for this,the majority of the people want a functioning govt to help sort out bills,healthcare etc and are happy with the Protocol' The people of NI are getting shafted by the poison of the dup and an incompetent British govt. |
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what’s wrong wd , don’t like the truth , your ears too sensitive ?
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Lapsy did Sinn Fein collect their wages when they walked out of Stormont -
for three years ? |
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Did they go in to sign a roll just to collect their wages,no,they didn't,that is scummy.
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Did they collect their wages and not attend Stormont - for 3 years ?
Now I’m getting tired of this hypocrisy from nationalists |
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Did the dup? yes they did,the difference is they went in to sign today for that.
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Truth lfc?
The truth is usually the idiocy you write is so stupid as to be mildly amusing. I think most people cannot believe anybody can really be as stupid as you purport to be by your ramblings. Ordinarily one would think your your musing are those of a sad old man who wants some company but your continued lies, ignorance or both on this subject can only draw the conclusion that you are not a very nice human being and that saddens me. Good day. |
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wd - if you are going to continue to be so abusive I won’t be taking
any notice or replying to anything you might say in future Good bye |
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It is sad,the British Govt told Ian paisley jun that they signed the Protocol to worm out of it and you Lfc are defending that.
It is sad for democracy,the people of Northern Ireland and sad that the UK themselves are actually doing this. |
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Lapsy Sinn Fein didn’t have to take their pay - for 3 years when they walked out
They did .. now stop talking nonsense |
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Actually I think it’s sad that the south of Ireland and the EU are not prepared to do their own work
That’s sad |
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The pay is just a small point in the scheme of things,i did mention it however.
The other points above are what you are defending,shame on you. |
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I’m not bothered about the pay - but you mentioned it in relation to the DUP
And tried to defend Sinn Fein with a ludicrous excuse That’s hypocritical Shame on you |
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You don’t see that do you ?
That’s a big part of the problem right there . |
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Start rambling about 50 years ago,it is all you have,you are a sad bitter old man.
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Lapsy I think it is you that is rambling
I’m not bothered about 50 years ago That seems to be your problem So I suggest you try and keep up |
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3.16pm 'that is the reality'
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Now , if you can stop being so sad and bitter that might also help you to not be so hypocritical
That’s best |
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Yes lapsy there you go again
Try and tell honcho - and yourself that’s history Now come up to date |
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Now I think you accept you were being hyocritical in relation to the DUP, good
Let’s move on |
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lapsy,
I really think you ought to pay more due care and attention when quoting your 3:16's! lfc 3.16 don’t talk nonsense about civil rights , everyone in N Ireland had equal rights and as part of Great Britain and NI were fortunate to live in a country with more freedoms and opportunity than any other country in the world That is the reality . Not to be confused with John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life Contrast that to the Very Reverend Ian Paisley who will hopefully be burning in hellfire as we speak for his hate crimes and sins against God! |
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Now did God have any daughters?
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3 years on from asking about Sean Brown (12th May 15.34 2022)
No answers. Hilary you won't be able to look your dad in the eye,you know how wrong it is. |
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Why the shut down for a public inquiry Hilary?
You know you are acting unlawfully by refusing one. Anything to do with the alleged calling off surveillance for a few hours while the murder was committed and then resumed? Who ordered that? |