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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 06 Apr 25 20:45
I mean the more general dip and when it might rebound. There was the initial drop, then a further drop when China announced their retaliation. I'm not sure there'll be any significant bounce till they know what the EU are going to do. It might flatline for a bit but I'd be surprised if there's any jump of note before that happens.
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 20:46
The EU won't retaliate as it only harms its own population (according to the experts)
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 06 Apr 25 20:48
Reason nothing really happens early doors is because the spread on US stocks like Apple is way wide.

Every morning, but especially Monday morning, London is just adjusting to what happened on Friday.

Of course Trump may wake up tomorrow and tweet something. He will tweet something. And that will be what markets respond to.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 06 Apr 25 20:49
and he accuses others of pearl clutchingLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 20:51
that was sarcasm, actually Grin
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 20:53
I have my fingers crossed for EU retaliation. It's in their dna.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 06 Apr 25 20:55
It's certainly exciting but scary at the same time ... buy when you can smell the extreme fear as Uncle Warren always says

He's sat there and taken flak for his huge cash balance the last couple years but he's got more than a few years under under his belt !  Just waiting ....
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 21:00
My sense is that fear has not crossed over into the general population yet, regular people aren't logging on to dump their holdings in large numbers imo. I don't doubt it's mad on twatter, but most people aren't on twatter.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 06 Apr 25 21:31
Tend to agree with that - good chance of retail panic selling first half of this week

we're looking lower again on the open here - premarket Dow now -539
By:
clouded leopard
When: 06 Apr 25 21:49
Dow -596 ( already -1.56% from Friday close)


epic week incoming
By:
clouded leopard
When: 06 Apr 25 21:55
-680

1 hour till Asia open
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 25 22:45
Rachel Reeves push to get people switching into stock isas from cash isas looking very ropey at this particular point,bad timing or just brutal?
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 22:55
The depressives on bloomberg are highly entertaining Grin
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Apr 25 22:59
Political people shouldn't be listened to when deciding how to best invest.

If they want to cut cash isa limits it's because it's costing them

But what did they expect?
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 23:06
Only negative 5 on 500 and daq pre trade
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 25 23:07
It is a relatively new phenomenon, most fell outside the 1k interest ceiling with low rates,a bigger net with 4-5% and now many taking advantage of 'hiding' x amount from taxman while getting the rate, right an all.
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 23:09
obviously growth in an isa is safe from double dip taxation in any type of isa
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 25 23:10
But you can lose on a share isa obviously.
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 23:13
not MM. but the change in the game is that there was no incentive to use cash isas in a flat rate era. hardly anyone is choosing between cash and investing, they are moving their cash assets into isas to prevent savings interest being liable for taxation
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 25 23:17
It's a juggling act as always, for example I have a 10% regular saver unwrapped, which will still beat wrapped investments, net of tax. some people would rather get a lot less interest and pay no tax on it
By:
clouded leopard
When: 06 Apr 25 23:21
Dow on open now -1450 _3.8%
By:
clouded leopard
When: 06 Apr 25 23:22
SP500 down over 200 points @ 4857
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 25 23:31
I like your posts CL,i won't pretend i have much financial acumen but i'm getting from the tone of your posts it is yet another v bad day tomorrow,if so it surely cannot continue and a change of US policy may be upcoming?

Saying that on being rational myself but not sure there is too much of that around.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Apr 25 23:37
People always over react, but being able to correctly
price it up with a loose canon setting policy is a toughy.

Easier to trade IPL!!!
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Apr 25 23:43
Bitcoin fell below the $79,000 level as investors braced for more financial market volatility after U.S. equites suffered their worst decline since 2020 on the rollout of President Donald Trump’s restrictive global tariffs.

The price of bitcoin was last lower by 5% at $78,647.33, according to Coin Metrics, after trading above the $80,000 for most of this year — barring a couple brief blips below it amid recent volatility. It’s off its January all-time high by 39%.

The flagship cryptocurrency usually trades like a big tech stock and is often viewed by traders as a leading indicator of market sentiment, but last week it bucked the broader market meltdown – holding between $82,000 and $83,000 and rising to end the week as stocks tumbled and even gold fell.

Other cryptocurrencies suffered bigger losses overnight. Ether
and the token tied to Solana

tumbled about 10% each.

Bitcoin’s down move triggered a wave of long liquidations, as traders betting on an increase in its price were forced to sell their assets to cover their losses. In the past 24 hours, bitcoin has seen more than $181 million in long liquidations, according to CoinGlass. Ether saw $188 million in long liquidations in the same period.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Apr 25 23:50
Hedge fund investor Bill Ackman, an ardent supporter of Trump’s 2024 campaign, posted a lengthy note on X warning of the consequences to the economy should Trump fail to back off.

“The President has an opportunity on Monday to call a time out and have the time to execute on fixing an unfair tariff system,” he wrote. Alternatively, we are heading for a self-induced, economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down. May cooler heads prevail.”
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 06 Apr 25 23:57
The 7 largest Dow Jones drops in American history:

1. Trump, 3/16/20
-2,997.10

2. Trump, 3/12/20
-2,352.60

3. Trump, 3/9/20
-2,013.76

4. Trump, 6/11/20
-1,861.82

5. Trump, 4/3/25
-1,679.39

6. Trump, 3/11/20
-1,464.94

7. Trump, 03/18/20
-1,338.46
By:
A_T
When: 07 Apr 25 07:34
Nikkei down 7%
By:
jollyswagman
When: 07 Apr 25 07:40
^^^ in percentage terms that list would feature 1987 and 1929.

it's orange monday in asia,  hang seng - 13%, shanghai - 8.99%, nikkei - 7.83%

dow futures currently - 3.54%.

crude oil approx - 3.5%
By:
yak hunt
When: 07 Apr 25 07:57
The massive worldwide losses over the last few days might only have been a blip compared to the next day or so.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 07 Apr 25 07:58
Another 4% gone - He's really 'making America great'. He's blown trillions of dollars and ruined the reputation of his  country.

He needs to have the guts to admit he's made a mistake.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 07 Apr 25 08:03
he is surrounded by sycophants and is himself a narcissist, admitting making a mistake seems unlikely at the moment.

ftse -2.7%.
By:
A_T
When: 07 Apr 25 08:04
I've seen suggestions that this is a strategy to push down treasury yields but I don't buy that
By:
Slicer
When: 07 Apr 25 08:14
Monday of Colour!! Lots of "Investors" shown to be gamblers after all!
By:
yak hunt
When: 07 Apr 25 08:29
Huge falls on European markets
published at 08:18
08:18
Breaking
We're seeing some massive falls on European stock markets.

There have been some big swings in the first few minutes of trading - but as things stand the FTSE 100 index is down nearly 6%.

Germany's Dax index - which sank 10% at one point - is down 7.6%, while France's Cac 40 index is 7% lower.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Apr 25 08:32
Cool
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 07 Apr 25 08:44
The worst deal in financial history and he still thinks America is "stronger" for it.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Apr 25 08:47
Stop bleating and start taking advantage. imho.
By:
A_T
When: 07 Apr 25 08:54
let us know when you've gone back in - as it happens and not 6 months later Wink
By:
Cider
When: 07 Apr 25 09:03
cherry picking today, eg ncyf, npp, mrch, cty, lwdb

not time for index yet (for me)

sold some cash positions in prep
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