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Ive no problems with those two cases at all although I have plenty about the morality of the financial services industry in general. My real problems come from the extremely poor performance of the vast majority who still make fortunes off the backs of ordinary investors. Very few are worth a fraction of what they are paid.
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The bonds were full of crap
Buffett should have noticed |
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You see Buffett just happened to be living in America
Someone inevitably was going to make a lot of money investing in American companies It was an almost perfect time and place to be Someone had to do so , it happened to be him |
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Correct. One of my favourite sayings of his is "Our favourite holding period is forever".
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Yes could just as easily have been you I suppose. Just bad luck it wasnt.
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Now - who is living in a country like that now , anyone ?
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He lost 28 billion donchnite
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Too late for me now. This could be a really useful thread though if enough people took it seriously.
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If the time is right , if the country is right , and thousands of people are investing
Someone , like Buffett will make a serious amount of money - it’s inevitable |
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Surprisingly he doesn’t necessarily need to know what he is doing
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Morality is for he birds Dotchinite. Plenty of bad morality and corruption on display in our public services, education, police, politics, social services and church to be too sanctimonious about the financial services industry that pays massive revenues that help to fund our public services. It's not perfect but in general the compliance and measures that are in place to protect consumers is very good. More and more of the bad eggs forced out with higher qualifications needed to do the job and better protections in place. I think the Police should take note.
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You will find that very intelligent and those with all sorts of information are at no advantage
To the average person in the street when it comes to predictions |
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End of January Jacob Rees Mogg's company sold its last many millions of shares in Putin's UN sanctioned Sberbank - must have been something he heard in cabinet - used to be called Insider Trading. @fca
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There you go
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i'm insider trader
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I would strongly disagree with you lfc1971.
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Imagine losing 28 billion and pretending to know what you’re doing
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Something go wrong there ?
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i can understand lfc's logic
say you take 100 random people and ask them to predict the score of Chelsea v Lille some will get it right does that mean they know a lot about football? now if they keep predictin stuff right long term that is different |
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I would also blame the education curriculum that places more importance on children knowing angles than personal finances and how investments work. The lack of education and financial acumen amongst individuals is alarming amongst the older generations.
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people will sometimes get stuff right but for the wrong reasons, they will just be lucky
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Soros made a huge amount of money shorting GBP
does that mean he's a genius? or was he just lucky? |
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It’s not necessarily different Giuseppe
If you are in America over that particular time in history Someone is going to get it right longterm - probably a few |
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Well he's still worth over $100 billion dollars lfc. Must have done something right.
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yes of course with an economy which is generally growing it is easier to make money on the stock market
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Soros knew something instinct and intelligence
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"I would also blame the education curriculum that places more importance on children knowing angles than personal finances and how investments work."
agree with that kids should be taught how the economy works (and the law too) |
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There are a few people like that , can’t be taught
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1,000 people predict the score of Chelsea v Lille
100 get it right out of that 100, 10 get the score right in the next game out of that 10, 1 will get three in a row is that one person a genius or just lucky? |
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you ask 100 grandmothers who never watch football to predict scores
some will get three in a row |
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That’s why I say it was America that made Buffett
It was the country |
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They invented coco cola
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so the question is, is Buffett a lucky grandmother or not?
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Someone was going to make a fortune
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i wish i could afford coca cola
it's tesco 50c cola for me |
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Our education is stuck in the dark ages with some of the thickest individuals teaching. What do they say. "Those who can do, those who can't teach"
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basic human biology and nutrition too, diseases etc
so much that isn't taught baisc geography too naming every country on a map should be kindergarten stuff |
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Very much agree with that.
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Any commodity without a history of revenue, profit, bricks-and-mortar and a workable business model is never a good investment eg crypto-currency.
Can anyone explain how BTC, ILV, EGC, etc, can be "valued" in the stratosphere? |
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We can value stocks any way we like, but the only thing that matters is what someone else is prepared to pay for them.
It's easy to lose sight of the fact that people buy shares in order to sell them at a profit. Except of course people who hold controlling stocks of companies. If you hold shares for the long term, I suggest a basket of companies like a unit trust. |