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Boris bans another 100 russkies
and bans AERFLOT  |
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Sleepy Joe speech delayed by a hour
Still in BED  |
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Too actually see the Russian stocks drop so much in such a short time is self harm to the market,and an economic war never seen, scary time folks, if you're a believer?
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Quick guess but Russia may be forced to give Bitcoin cryptos a big go, those bitcoin prices should surge if that be the case.buy low watchem grow
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Lavrov just explained why Russia had to start a war with Ukraine and it's pure Orwell: "The Russian operation is being carried out to free Ukrainians from oppression so they can determine their own future".
Lol at the idiiots who think it's NATO's fault |
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Ukraine is not a proper democracy - a democracy is when you can ban from running, imprison or murder your political opponents
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Does anyone still think “NATO enlargement” has been “the problem”?
Does anyone still labour under the illusion our governments haven’t known for many years precisely what Putin is, & what needs to be done about him? /1. Let me tell you a story from 2008. My son was 10 days old. Having co-led a UK diplomatic crisis response to Putin’s invasion of Georgia, I’d been asked urgently to review our policy toward Russia. “Urgent”, for such a fundamental piece of work still meant a month or so. /2. Now here I was sitting opposite the Foreign Secretary explaining the outcome to him. This is part of what I said: “Russia is run by the people who own it, principally an elite of a few dozen, largely dominated by ex-KGB officials with a world view formed during Soviet days./3. “Putin calls the shots. The leadership elite are driven by personal vested interests in money, survival, & security-dominated notions of Russian greatness. They are neither aligned with our values nor - for the most part - our interests. /4. “There is only a long term prospect of a Russian regime which is. “The Russian leadership feels able to be more assertive internationally, often in ways which threaten our interests, even if capability does not always match ambition. /5. “Russia seeks to use energy dependency to exert influence over the foreign policy of EU member states. “Russia has invaded Georgia. Further Russian military interventions are unlikely in the near term but cannot be ruled out. In the longer term they are a real danger. /6. “The hope of a strategic or broad-based partnership with Russia has receded into the distant future. Current policy should be realistic about this, & should be based on the most likely scenario for the medium term (a decade or more). /7. “That is: a Russian leadership similar, or possibly harsher, in foreign policy outlook & behaviour to the current one. Not hoped-for, more benign scenarios”. /8. I went on to explain how closely concerted effort with the US & our EU/NATO allies, across a range of specific areas, was vital. /9. And I drew his attention to a series of hair-raising facts about the nature of the threat Putin posed, & precisely how that could - & should - be neutralised. Permanently. /10. At this point, it’s important to say that, while I carried ultimate responsibility for what I was presenting, & it was my view, I didn’t just sit down & make it up! /11. The best experts & most senior officials, including from key international partners, had been throughly involved. Some influential folk were clearly uncomfortable & tried to shout me down. They were wrong then. They’re wrong now. You’ll hear some of them on the airwaves. /12 Fortunately the politicians & the most important officials did listen. Others, later, failed to. And here we are. I was right. Perhaps I shouldn’t like being right. If I do, please nonetheless believe me when I say, today, being right makes me sick to the stomach. /13. Nothing I told the Foreign Secretary at the time, or repeated when called on again as later Putin crises wreaked more havoc & murderous destruction, was news to his counterparts in central and eastern European countries. /14. If you want to know why pretty much every central & eastern European country was determined to join NATO, you only need look at what’s been happening since the early hours of the morning of 24 February 2022, Kyiv time, across Ukraine. /15. sovereign, independent, eastern European country & UN member state. But not a member of NATO. They all knew many years back this day could come. And, like the US intelligence we’ve been hearing so much of over the last days & weeks, they were dead right. /16. It didn’t take much imagination, to be fair. They all knew about 1948 (Berlin Blockade). 1953 (military repression of East German uprising). 1956 (invasion of Hungary). /17. 1958 - 1961 (Berlin Crisis culminating in the puppet East German government building the “Anti-Fascist Protection Wall”). 1968 (invasion of Czechoslovakia). Part of the Putin propaganda line is to claim vulnerability to invasion from the West. /18. Germany’s despicable war of aggression - WW2 - is a prime reason cited for fearfulness of the USSR/ Russia, or indeed other former Soviet republics, including Ukraine. The terrible reality of the German atrocity of WW2 is indisputable. /19. The difference in 2022 is that the Federal Republic of Germany has been run for decades as an exemplary democracy - not without its flaws, of course. Russia, to put it at its mildest, hasn’t. /20. In any case Putin’s stated “justification” for invading Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO (he mentions it briefly in paragraph 978, or whatever, of his ghastly speech in the early hours of 24 February). It’s all based on the idea of Ukraine having no right to exist. /21. And that’s what he’s been saying about Ukraine … forever. The real reason is different again. Putin is being driven, & has been for over two decades now, by an escalatory dynamic which almost inevitably pushes klepto-oligarchic psychopaths to ever greater extremes. /22. Of repressive violence. Political distraction. And theft – of resources & often territories. There’s typically no limit. Unless they’re stopped by force. Or death. And this one has nuclear weapons. /23. All our governments have known exactly that, & a lot more besides, for well over a decade. Yet they have failed. We all need to ask why. And, yes, we need to ask now. Because some of those governments need to be disposed of. Now. /24. Otherwise, don’t be surprised if Putin disposes of us. You’ve heard it said often. But I’ll say it again. This isn’t a drill. /25. End |
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Chilling
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The scary thing is this has all been played out in plain sight. We've been seeing it and shouting about it for years but capitalism and greed has always got in the way. Here we are.
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Snouts in the trough
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I have a friend who doesn't blame Putin and says Nato would have missiles on russia's border if Ukraine were in the organisation.
Was it not the ukraine government that raised the issue of joining and not NATO suggesting it? I thought Nato was always a defensive organisation, to defend its members against aggression etc not to attack or invade? We were always on exercises as a group with france included (not members but they participated in naval exercises) and it was always about defence of the north sea norway down to germany etc etc - this was in 1970 before poland et al joined. So I think it crucial to know the ins and outs of this NATO 'threat' as supported by some. Any comments?? |
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There is a classic 70s//80s war game where the basic USSR plan is to take airfields with parachute regiments then use strips to land troops and vehicles as is going on right now near Kiev.
also done in Crete WW11 FIA F1 saying impossible to hold russia grand prix - for once - well done the FIA |
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attempting 'regime change' !!?? If putin achieves this - get's away with it - who is next??
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USSR
There just forcing back there own land here People at war everywhere in Middle East no one gives a **** Only care here cos it’s on the door step of Europe There what they like there ain’t one thing no one can do about it |
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They do what they like
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Gas food fuel
Go though the roof no one will give a toss on outcome Cos own lives going be impacted big time |
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Ukraine and lots of Eastern European countries have been begging to join NATO and the EU for a decade or so. They could see what Putin was up to and could see this invasion coming from years back. But Putin's paid for a lot of influence in western countries and can also now bully Europe with the gas pipeline so they've been scared of granting them access and upsetting him. What a time to be alive!
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ps I no longer count him as a friend - someone who thinks it is ok to kill these children and civilians in putin's expansion of his USSR is unbelievable
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did ukraine request to join nato and did nato at ANY time say it would accept ukraine?
I wonder how many people would think ukraine should be in nato now!!?? and lavrov's 'nazi' lead bbc egging them on |
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man utd have just delivered the final blow to putin!!! he is finnish
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George Galloway
Y’all said #Russia was about to invade #Ukraine. I told you it wasn’t. You were wrong. I was right. Again. Show some bloody humility. Especially if they’re not even paying you to act like an idiot     |
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Vitali Klitschko, a former heavyweight boxer says he plans to take up arms to defend the country.
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Interested to know what the plan of Ukrainian military is?
No full frontal but perhaps a guerrilla war? |
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Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato, EU dip tells me. 'Apparently selling Gucci loafers to oligarchs is more of a priority than hitting back at Putin,' source adds.
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we have no idea because of lack of information.
Don't know if they have a 'leave behind' special units as in classic NATO 70/80s defence tactics could be bloody of russian conscripts but they will hide the body count arresting opposition in trudeau/putin style will shut down the protests |
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bloody for russian cons
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official warlord statement from russia - 400 ukrainians killed and no russian casualties in the taking of the airport
what not even a broken leg from jumping out of a helo or running into a rota blade? putin must be joyous don't you just 'love' propaganda |
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Jesus, some of the images of what the Russians are doing.
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whoops sorry my propaganda at work there!!! 200 ukraine soldiers killed not 400
at least the russians have bagged children and civilians do you think they will mention that in their military broadcasts? of course one might say I hope this is going to 'cost' the russians but it only going to be young conscripts who will pay and not the general or putin and they can hide the bodies anyway - none of that must get back to russia -but many russians support putin some say as many as half!! |
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at least we have stopped russians investing in london - that will stop the tanks - I don't think.
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THEY ARE NOT TARGETTING CIVILIANS ??????
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Doris has immediately banned all private Russian jets
landing They have to come by Ryanair NOW |
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oh well done that is funny
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Breaking. Ukraine says it has shot down an Il-76 Russian transport plane 20km from Kyiv. 100+ paratroopers on board.
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Iryna Tsvila of Ukraine’s National Guards Rapid Response Brigade.
She was killed tonight repelling a Russian armored assault outside Kyiv |
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"Lol at the idiiots who think it's NATO's fault"
corky this all started a few weeks after NATO invited Ukraine to join that's just a coincidence right? |
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porcy
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"Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato"
well done signore, bravo |
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boris couldn't acre less about british business owners
only wants a pat on the head from Sleepy Joe for being a good boy |