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By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 24 Feb 22 04:07
It’s chicken Kiev as far as I’m concerned

Dynamo Kiev for example
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:09
what if the government speaks a different language to the people living there?

how would you feel if Scholz changed the name of Chemnitz to Kemnitz?
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:10
Do you call it Kaliningrad like a proper, massive, humongous virtue-signaller or Königsberg?
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Feb 22 04:10
Ukraine forces managed to sho0t down Russian military plane Kharkiv
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:10
changing place names can really piss people off

look at Derry / Lononderry
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:11
it's not Konigsberg though is it

Konigsberg no longer exists

all the Germans were expelled

that is different
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 24 Feb 22 04:11
Ukraine fighting back

I make that 1-1 , we could have a winner by sunrise
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:13
Are all those people in Kiyv you like to mention Russian or Ukrainians that happen to be speak Russian due to the prolonged soviet phase?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:13
i think German media still uses danzig, Breslau etc doesn't it

if they started saying Gdansk becasue Poland asked them to that would be virtue signalling
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:14
Kiev has been under Russian rule far longer than that
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Feb 22 04:14
anchor on RT keeps babbling about an unspecified "development" because he clearly can't bring himself to say the words "Russia has invaded Ukraine."
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:15

Feb 24, 2022 -- 4:14AM, Giuseppe wrote:


Kiev has been under Russian rule far longer than that


So are the people there Russian or Ukrainian?

By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:16
Kiev already has a name in English

there is no need for a new name that is slightly closer to the Ukrainian pronunciation

it is purely political
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Feb 22 04:17
Citizens in Kharkiv being moved to bunkers
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:17
It must have given you months long nightmares when FYROM became North Macedonia.
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:18
Or when Astana became Nur-Sultan.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:18
for **** sake

Odessa has always been the name in English

now Ukraine wants one s because the Ukrainain name has one s and Russian two

this is the type of attitude that led to the war in Donbas
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:19
it will be changed back to Astana at some point probably
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:19
And you will finally be a happy Giuseppe again.Happy
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:19
Odesa instead of Odessa

that is 100% political and completely trivial
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:21
what is bizarre about Astana is they spent so much money on the brand "Astana"

cycling team, football team etc.
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:21
Though surprised you'd seemingly be ok with it being called its terribly Kazakh name of Astana instead of one of its previous Russian ones.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:24
don't think it had a russian name

was basically built from scratch in the 90s i think

previous capital almaty was too close to the border to be safe
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:24
Nur-Sultan (/ˌnʊərsʊlˈtɑːn/;[8] Kazakh pronunciation: [nʊɾ sʊltɑn]; Kazakh: Нұр-Сұлтан, romanized: Nūr-Sūltan; Russian: Нур-Султан), originally known as Akmolinsk (Russian: Акмолинск, romanized: Akmolinsk), Tselinograd (Russian: Целиногра́д), and most recently Astana[a] (Kazakh pronunciation: [ɑstɑnɑ] (audio speaker iconlisten), Cyrillic: Астана), is the capital city of Kazakhstan
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur-Sultan
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Feb 22 04:25
Ukraine launching its few MiG-29s. These pilots might face Russian Su-27s.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:27
So are the people there Russian or Ukrainian?

that is not an easy question to answer

for a long time people there considered themselves "little russians"

Belarus was "white russia"

Russia was "great russia"

and the tsar was the tsar "of all the russias"

national consciousness has changed over the last few decades
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:28
it was probbaly just a village edy back then edy
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:28
Belarus is White Rus, not White Russia.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Feb 22 04:28
New — Zelensky convening security council to announce martial law nationwide
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:29
i doubt those mig-29s are in good shape

bad reputation that aircraft and ukraine has been broke for 30 years

su-27s are bigger and more powerful
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:30
in english it was called "white russia"

i believe teh german name is weissrussland

we are getting into complicated territory here when talking about what "rus" means
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:31
Do ethnic Ukrainians exist?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:31
white russia then byelorussia then belarus

belarus si closer to belarussian language name

more political bullshitt
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:32
yes i think so

certainly in west ukraine

they were nevr little russians

that was always part of Austria

sometiems called ruthenians
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:34
Ok, but estimating whether those ethnic Ukrainians form a majority in Kiyv is super tricky?
By:
edy
When: 24 Feb 22 04:35
Or whether they at least form a bigger group than the Russians.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:35
Ukraine has

37 x Mig-29s

32 x Su-27s

they used none of them in Donbas which shows they are scared of Russian anti-aircraft misiles
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:36
Kiev has ethnic ukrainian majority and russian speaking majority

many ethnic ukrainians speak russian
By:
Giuseppe
When: 24 Feb 22 04:38
Russian troops landed (by sea?) in Odessa (lol CNN using two "s") and are also in Kharkov
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