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It’s chicken Kiev as far as I’m concerned
Dynamo Kiev for example |
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what if the government speaks a different language to the people living there?
how would you feel if Scholz changed the name of Chemnitz to Kemnitz? |
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Do you call it Kaliningrad like a proper, massive, humongous virtue-signaller or Königsberg?
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Ukraine forces managed to sho0t down Russian military plane Kharkiv
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changing place names can really piss people off
look at Derry / Lononderry |
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it's not Konigsberg though is it
Konigsberg no longer exists all the Germans were expelled that is different |
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Ukraine fighting back
I make that 1-1 , we could have a winner by sunrise |
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Are all those people in Kiyv you like to mention Russian or Ukrainians that happen to be speak Russian due to the prolonged soviet phase?
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i think German media still uses danzig, Breslau etc doesn't it
if they started saying Gdansk becasue Poland asked them to that would be virtue signalling |
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Kiev has been under Russian rule far longer than that
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anchor on RT keeps babbling about an unspecified "development" because he clearly can't bring himself to say the words "Russia has invaded Ukraine."
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Kiev already has a name in English
there is no need for a new name that is slightly closer to the Ukrainian pronunciation it is purely political |
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Citizens in Kharkiv being moved to bunkers
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It must have given you months long nightmares when FYROM became North Macedonia.
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Or when Astana became Nur-Sultan.
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for **** sake
Odessa has always been the name in English now Ukraine wants one s because the Ukrainain name has one s and Russian two this is the type of attitude that led to the war in Donbas |
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it will be changed back to Astana at some point probably
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And you will finally be a happy Giuseppe again.
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Odesa instead of Odessa
that is 100% political and completely trivial |
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what is bizarre about Astana is they spent so much money on the brand "Astana"
cycling team, football team etc. |
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Though surprised you'd seemingly be ok with it being called its terribly Kazakh name of Astana instead of one of its previous Russian ones.
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don't think it had a russian name
was basically built from scratch in the 90s i think previous capital almaty was too close to the border to be safe |
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Nur-Sultan (/ˌnʊərsʊlˈtɑːn/;[8] Kazakh pronunciation: [nʊɾ sʊltɑn]; Kazakh: Нұр-Сұлтан, romanized: Nūr-Sūltan; Russian: Нур-Султан), originally known as Akmolinsk (Russian: Акмолинск, romanized: Akmolinsk), Tselinograd (Russian: Целиногра́д), and most recently Astana[a] (Kazakh pronunciation: [ɑstɑnɑ] (audio speaker iconlisten), Cyrillic: Астана), is the capital city of Kazakhstan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur-Sultan
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Ukraine launching its few MiG-29s. These pilots might face Russian Su-27s.
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So are the people there Russian or Ukrainian?
that is not an easy question to answer for a long time people there considered themselves "little russians" Belarus was "white russia" Russia was "great russia" and the tsar was the tsar "of all the russias" national consciousness has changed over the last few decades |
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it was probbaly just a village edy back then edy
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Belarus is White Rus, not White Russia.
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New — Zelensky convening security council to announce martial law nationwide
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i doubt those mig-29s are in good shape
bad reputation that aircraft and ukraine has been broke for 30 years su-27s are bigger and more powerful |
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in english it was called "white russia"
i believe teh german name is weissrussland we are getting into complicated territory here when talking about what "rus" means |
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Do ethnic Ukrainians exist?
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white russia then byelorussia then belarus
belarus si closer to belarussian language name more political bullshitt |
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yes i think so
certainly in west ukraine they were nevr little russians that was always part of Austria sometiems called ruthenians |
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Ok, but estimating whether those ethnic Ukrainians form a majority in Kiyv is super tricky?
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Or whether they at least form a bigger group than the Russians.
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Ukraine has
37 x Mig-29s 32 x Su-27s they used none of them in Donbas which shows they are scared of Russian anti-aircraft misiles |
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Kiev has ethnic ukrainian majority and russian speaking majority
many ethnic ukrainians speak russian |
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Russian troops landed (by sea?) in Odessa (lol CNN using two "s") and are also in Kharkov
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