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Like I just said I have never come across such a number of how many Taliban were killed, they are not within the arc of civilised entities who generally release such information, but your line of question implies perhaps that America didn’t kill many?
I think it’s pretty certain America killed plenty more Taliban that were killed themselves. |
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You may be right but how do we know? All we know for certain is that Trump did a deal with the Taliban not to attack US troops and that US troops would then withdraw completely from the country. After that, a lot of it is pretty unclear other than the Afghan army that remained didn't put up much of a fight against the Taliban once the US troop withdrawal was taking place. The Taliban kept their side of the deal with Trump.
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Still not sure what point dusty is trying to make
dustybin are you the poster that said that Adam couldn't be as tall as claimed in the Bible? |
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Haha, no it was claimed in Islamic texts not the Bible that Adam was around 90ft, but yes that was me
 That’s what we are having to deal with here, a set of people who revert back to ancient texts on everything instead of advancing. That’s why they are so poor and have perhaps the world’s worst GDP. There are some other equally pious countries that follow suit, who’s GDP is heavily u der pinned by what’s in the ground, not the ability of the person….but just like MBS in Saudi Arabia are sweating bullets attempting to introduce a more upto date mentality for when oil is no longer of much use. |
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Come on man ffs. I’m saying the claims that the Afghan army were brave simply for dying is an oxymoron. They died in far greater numbers than the allies because they weren’t cut out for it or unreliable. |
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One of my friends sons is called Adam. He is really tall.
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 Just to save the naysayers a job. Look for the Afghan GDP….it’s that one right down the bottom, and that with sponking of huge amounts of money attempting to bring them into the 21st C. It’s just wasted money. And as bruise used to say on ‘play your cards right’ ‘Do you think it will go higher or lower’?? I say it will go back lower. |
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Brucie
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What point are you trying to make please?
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Bit slow PP?
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of the over two trillion spaffed on this war only about 24 billion went on economic development and likely much of that disappeared into the pockets of the well connected.
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A_T 01 Sep 21 07:26
Still not sure what point dusty is trying to make dustybin are you the poster that said that Adam couldn't be as tall as claimed in the Bible? dustybin 01 Sep 21 07:38 Haha, no it was claimed in Islamic texts not the Bible that Adam was around 90ft, but yes that was me ah things are starting to make sense now  |
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Hardly being cryptic here A_T
That I prefer empiricism and reason over indoctrination. |
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Dustybin, it appears it is not just not me who is unclear what your posts are with regard to or what point you are trying to make.
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I think the only people who are struggling are generally liberals who only want to hear nice things about integration and that everyone should be free to assert wild claims as facts without being challenged if it falls under the protected banner of religion.
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What wild claims have I asserted to be facts please?
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Read it again PP
The sentence says liberals want anyone to be free unilaterally to spout assertions as truth under…. the remit of religion, not that liberals per se (yourself included) are doing it generically. Take for instance our hate crime laws. You can’t say very much against those practicing religion….but those practicing religion can tell you that if you don’t agree with them you will face torment after you are dead. That seems pretty threatening to me, so why is that allowed? Or for another example only yesterday one of the Taliban said ‘America must not kill anymore Muslims….’ (In the warped view that they had driven them out of Afghanistan and won a victory against the infidels) But by that logic that suggest America and their allies were only there to kill Muslims, it’s a nonsense portrayed often by certain people. Forgetting totally the war in Bosnia, or for that matter they also kill non Muslims. |
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Is the point of your posts something to do with racism/religion rather than Afghanistan?
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i think we should get back to discussing how tall Adam was - it might be a more productive discussion
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I made the point right at the beginning PP
That Afghanistan is a basket case pejoratively because it indoctrinates all aspects of life from the interpretations made from a single archaic book. |
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Why didn't you say your posts were about racism? I wouldn't have wasted my time replying to you
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Just out of curiosity PP, do you actually turn a profit on here, because your logical skills are very poor.
It’s not racism is it it’s about the indoctrination of the minds of those religion infests. As I said earlier, we had a similar problem hundreds of years ago before the enlightenment. |
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I usually make a profit of roughly £20K per annum betting on politics. I am not a racist, nor am I interested in discussing anything to do with race or religion.
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againsy my better judgment I'm going to plough on..
most people in Afghanistan are muslim - so what has that got to do whether they either fight fiercely or run off? |
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Well please don’t attempt to default to the racist accusation, and it’s very difficult discussing Afghanistan without talking about religion is it not?
I suppose this guy is also being racist? You would do well to listen to him and educate yourself, he’s an apostate from Islam of Asian culture. . https://youtu.be/ejgPPZ39ITE |
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A_T you will do well in watching what he has to say on Afghanistan/Islam.
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Ok one more post - still not sure what you're saying dusty but I agree some of that video
The idea that Afganis want to be a free secular country rid of the Taliban is a Western construct. The reason why there was so little resistance when the US pulled out was because it doesn't mske much difference to them whether the Taliban is in power or not - they wil still live in their villages- farming, herding goats, etc. It wasn't something worth dying for. |
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Still not sure what point dusty is trying to make Dusty isn’t trying to make any point. He is just screaming look at me. |
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Or to put it another way A_T, they were ok taking a higher wage during the period overseen by a more powerful advanced nation, but as soon as that got tired of the half hearted gains they rejected secularism to revert back to the rule of religion, as they didn’t believe in it enough.
Like I said, social democracy is wasted on them. WD another hand wringer who wants to play the man and not the facts. |
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Dustybin- a typical BMW. Shakespeare had a word for him.
Would love to see him tell an Afghan he was a coward face to face. The only problem with that would be how to get dusty out of his armchair. |
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more pouring into our country by sea and special invite by air
happy days for islam |
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WD brings nothing to the debate except wrong assumption.
It’s a Stressless Recliner btw. Still thinks I’m fat, no doubt thinks I don’t win also. |
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Try it!
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So you don’t think Ghani was a coward that undermined the whole of what our soldiers died for?
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dusty
the Afghan army have been doing the bulk of the fighting for years it was also Afghans (with western air support) who drove the taliban out in 2001 Afghans are not cowards |
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I said Ghani
You dont think he's a fairweather PM then who took the job on the understanding he could scarper if it got too hot? If he expected Afghan soldiers to die for the cause, why didn't he? |
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*President, not PM
The PM is still holding out in the mountains |
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"Emphasised by the fact they were so easily bribed or even killed where the comparative number of professional allied troops dead hardly even registers the number is so low."
Afghans are cowards and easily killed because all they are interested in is money, that is why so many have died no, it is because Afghans have been doing most of the fighting |
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you have repeatedly suggested Afghan soldiers are feckless and motivated only by money
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I am talking about Afghan soldiers not Ghani
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