Politics
No covid tests either walk in or drive through in any of the UK's top ten hotspots
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Parks don't close?
If they do then its kinda a none story really and being done for compliance purposes |
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Sont
I really don't know the normal opening and closing times of the party's in Leicester. Parks would normally be considered fairly safe - outspdoors with plenty of space to keep 2m distance. Not sure why decided to close an hour early- local press might have more on the news. Unless they were used as meeting places for groups of 16-18 year olds after school . Does seem strange but without knowing the reason for the council decision & normal closing times it is difficult to know if a sensible measure or a bit OTT. |
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This comment sums it up but make no mistake its being done for a reason
"So I can be fined for walking my dog alone in the park, but can in a pub full of strangers all day no problem" My only thinking now is they want utter chaos, street riots etc |
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Ministers telling the public to snitch on one another, if guys like Mex can't see this for what it is then
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Wrong, its because they are being told to get one to prove they haven't got the "virus", big companies are demanding it as was predicted a few months back. It will become compeltely company policy the whole lot, from "get a test" to "you need vaccination" Sad
The media yet again aren't reporting the truth one person you know told you that, do you base everything on one persons word |
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You believe one mans word from a news bulletin ?
I've heard someone who has actually experienced this |
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The only way we will solve the testing capacity problem is to stop paying people
Many are swinging the lead and claiming to have sickness to stop going back |
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Why should there have been this sudden upsurge in people wanting tests?
Because they are having to go back to work that’s why and they don’t fancy the idea |
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Sont
Are you still trying to defend your garbage based on one person you know who works for an unnamed company. You haven't even said if she lied to get a test she wasn't entitled to. Yet you have decided that problem with lack of testing isn't caused by number of infections rising ten fold in a few weeks. No can't be that. Maybe this rise in infections is why Leciester have decided to close parks an hour early, I doubt the reason for this decision wasn't to annoy voters out walking their dogs on their own. You have made a big point of parks closing a bit earlier than normal but haven't bothered to research the reasons behind this decision. Were groups of 16-18 year olds meeting up after school? WTF are you on about "snitching " . Ever since we has had police, people have been asked/ expected to report crimes. Well before Covid the UK had two telephone numbers for emergency & non emergency cases. It isn't new. |
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Oh good, another u-turn. Enact a law and tell people not to report it being broken! I know they've got recent form but...
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The law is there for people to obey
Nothing to do with whether people report or not ( best not to say anything to neighbours or anyone else, too dangerous . Report them |
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My daughter has just started year 7 and has been walking down to school with a friend. He got ill last weekend and has been off since. By all accounts, he's not too bad but has been told he can't return until he gets a test. Unfortunately, that's not as easy as you'd hope a civilised country to be and he's now looking at going into a second week off from school for what may be no more than a bad cold.
Utterly farcical. |
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Too much is being made of children being off school . A week or two off will not do any harm
Was often off from primary school due to illness. Remember being in class and my mother appeared and was talking to the teacher She was worried I was falling behind , Teacher said don’t worry about little lfc he’s one of the best in the class  |
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 dear god,how low can you sink? |
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I left school as soon as I could nineteen points . I still believe the vast majority of youngsters should do so
It’s good for them |
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Indeed. A colleague of mine managed to get a test (wife a nurse) last week after his kids fell ill and they were struck down. Two days off sick as they were bad but negative thankfully. We're still home-based so nothing too bad, but if he'd been in the office we'd have potentially be looking at locking it down, getting professional cleaners in, sending everyone home again etc.
Don't know how you can have people going to offices right now. Just more trouble than it's worth. Till you get a testing system in place that can remotely meet demand then society is going to slow to a crawl. |
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WTF are you on about IT
So have the PM don't ever report crimes? In many minor offences pre Covid people would have been happy enough to have a word first. Of course if you see a group of 7 carrying knives it may be a bad idea to confront than & say can only be a group of 6 . Nothing has changed- the police still requires people to report instances. The police really can't be bothered with groups of 7 it is to give them legal powers to break up groups of 15 etc. Much the same as people driving at 34 mph are breaking the law but not exactly number 1 priority for police. |
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This extensive testing is a serious misjudgement.
The government has lost its way, the science has lost its way, although the science has never been sound. And the extent of the infection is unknown because the tests produce far too many false positives. The only sound indication of the extent, are the numbers of people actually falling ill from it. As for sending kids for tests every time one coughs - how many kids have become seriously ill from the virus going on symptoms alone? |
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its not about kids getting ill its about identifying infected
kids and keeping them away from folk until they are no longer infectious. same as testing , track and trace identifies infected folk and isolates them until fit to return science is sound mate in teaching has been told kids with cough and cold can attend school, cough only and you are sent home awaiting test. he is not aware of where this edict originates. |
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Testing has never been sound.
False positives left right and centre. |
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Looks as if it is going to be as bad again as March/April and that will be without a lockdown,hard to see it not going the way of France/Spain and time for everyone to be as careful as they can.
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there are false negatives too.
still, its currently best we have, and hopefully will be improved as time progresses. some folk are learning, some idiots quoting false and misleading info. |
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i doubt we are anywhere near march and april, ,,,there was little testing back then
and government has surely learnt that a tighter regulation earlier in spike will stop spike reaching same heights...hope so anyway |
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France and Spain are YHTL, 2/3 weeks behind them imo,i hope i am wrong but the danger of 5 figure cases a day could be on the way.
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trends are worrying, but hopefully lesson learnt.
i am awaiting details of my latest lockdown, living in n e england we are about to pay price of covidiots. |
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i think the figure they have for "R" needs a look at.
clearly one person can easily infect dozens of others and not the 3 they were suggesting back then |
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/covid-19-and-the-false-positive-trap
Spectator had an article about false positives- they didn't express the same concern about tge accuracy as those on here who believe they should be allowed to do whatever they want in a pandemic did. Is very surprising how so many of these "scientific facts" from the forum Icke fans don't come with a link to any story which actually accurately supports theiir view. There will be false negative tests while the test is pretty unpleasant . Basically another reason to back up the claim that the number of new infections each day in UK is more than 4000. |
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Laugh
The 3 on the R rate isn't the maximum a person can infect but how many on average they do. That is why lockdown brought down R rate from over 3 to below 1 If we all go out to nightclubs, packed pubs, crowded theatres , rammed into tube carriages then average number of infections will be higher. If everybody was locked away in solitary confinement then R will be lower . It is a balancing act ever since economy started to reopen & to some extent even UK softish lockdown was a balancing act. |
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yeah, i get that , but i feel given more recent evidence its higher than three in the uk
i know they have an actual r rate and a possible r rate where measles is top rated at around 12-18. a quick look sees they now have covid at 3.8 to 8.9 so i should have looked before posting but i suspect its a very infectious beggar. |
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the march april figures were under reporting cases as testing wasnt available to scale it is now
at the time it was suggested deaths would be back fitted when it was over to give actual infection rate at the time. of course death figures are now routinely massaged too. |
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Agree laugh- does seem to be well capable of finding a new person to infect.
Guess being so mild in so many people is a blessing and a curse. Great that people don't get ill but means they don't know they pass on a death sentence. Might also lead to deliberate poor behaviour- I.e. Why should I stay at home , there is a decent party tonight & I won't die even if infected. |
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i also suspect many of us are capable of fighting off a small infection.
looking at the number of front line staff that died it suggests that a larger infection is very much more dangerous (viral load) we know more now, and have more treatments, so fingers crossed. |
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IT
The full lockdown was all about social distancing. Everyone is claiming it successfully bought the R rate down, same as Italy & China & Germany. Recently there has been more social interactions & number of infections have increased. Yep laugh, the "virus load" might be a factor. Are some unproven theories that masks may help even if don't completely prevent infection as people get a small initial exposure to the virus. All a bit difficult to prove as considered unethical to expose 10,000 people to a fine mist of virus, some with masks & some without. Then observe how many get ill. |
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Do anybody really believe that wearing a mask in a confined public space like public transport will not help curb the spread of the virus?
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Whispering
I think they are trolling and uneducated folk that follow them take up the baton. No doubt there's money to be made from these conspiracy theories. The deaths they will cause matter not to them. |
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