But..but.. Harris is "deeply unpopular" says Insider Trader who was wiped out in the Democratic VP market.

How socialist was the David Cameron Tories, IT?

both parties are full of fiscal conservatives and even though there are some more left people in Dems they are still a party that doesn't favour the working class on the economy.

The Dem establishment do not want to shift left on anything except social issues where they feel safe to.

Its why they want to undermine the squad, its why they kneecapped Bernie twice. Sometimes they stumble into the right position as a result of bad Republican actions. From what i gather, Obama wanted to appoint people who wanted to damage the post office too.

They don't disagree with the general immigration stance as past administrations show..they just want something a bit more humane and maybe some more hot female ICE guards for equality.

The Democrats are a centre right party that is liberal on social issues for the most part. Like the One Nation Tories will have been considered.

On their publicly stated positions, the supposed far left of the Dems are just supporting positions that would likely be supported in Labour by even the worst of the furthest right in the party

The working class Tories..........................

IT only thinks about working class whites in his analysis and uses cringey stereotypes

Tories won more working class votes than Labour amid stark generation gap at general election

Boris Johnson's party out-polled Labour by double-digit figures among both manual workers and households with incomes below £20,000

Boris Johnson secured victory in Thursday’s election by making Conservatives the party of the working classes, a new poll has suggested.

Tories out-polled Labour by double-digit figures among both manual workers and households with incomes below £20,000, according to the YouGov survey for The Times.

But the survey also revealed a stark generation gap in party support, with 18-24 year-olds backing Labour over Tories by an overwhelming 56 per cent to 21 per cent, while over-64s preferred Mr Johnson’s party by a margin of 64 per cent to 17 per cent.

The crossover age at which voters were more likely to vote Tory than Labour reduced from 47 in 2017 to 39 in last week’s election.

The YouGov survey, conducted on December 16, found that Tories outperformed Labour in every social class.

But unlike previous elections, the Tory advantage was smaller (10 points) among social grade AB (professionals and managers) - with Conservatives taking 42 per cent and Labour 32 per cent - than in the working class C2DE group, where Mr Johnson’s party led by 15 points on 48 per cent to 33 per cent.

Labour’s support was concentrated in the younger and better educated sectors of society.

Among those with a degree or higher educational qualification, Labour led by 43 per cent to 29 per cent, and among full-time students by 56 per cent to 17 per cent.

Voters with low educational attainment - GCSE or below - backed Tories over Labour by 58 per cent to 25 per cent, while those with a medium-level education favoured Mr Johnson’s party by 48 per cent to 31.

Labour retained the bulk of its Remain supporters from the 2017 election (79 per cent) but lost 33 per cent of its Leave backers to Tories. Some 22 per cent of Tory Remainers switched to the Liberal Democrats, but only 2 per cent of Consevative Leavers defected to the Brexit Party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-results-working-class-age-tories-labour-boris-johnson-yougov-a9249936.html

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The silent majority of working class voters who have not spent years being indoctrinated at our left wing universities voted Tory.

Go for it if you feel pensioners do not count.

Sure, let's go back to your imaginary stories of indoctrination at universities.

I spent 4 years at a University in a heavily Labour city in which there was the second tuition fee hike and the 2010 general election.

From the university itself, there was very little political activism.

Noone cares about student unions and their politics, other than outrage merchants who overinflate their importance

You were doing so well! Until `The Democrats are a centre right party`

joe`s Environmental Advisor, aoc, introduced her `Green New Deal`, which said we`d all be dead in 12 years if we didn`t get rid of cows (yes, really!) and aeroplanes. As she puts it;

“The Green New Deal sets a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, at the end of this 10-year plan because we aren’t sure that we will be able to fully get rid of, for example, emissions from farting cows or air travel before then.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/22/ocasio-cortez_the_world_is_going_to_end_in_12_years_if_we_dont_address_climate_change.html

joe signed up to it, using one of his favourite scams, plagiarism, as he later got into trouble for nicking large parts of it, verbatim, from uncredited sources. Don`t forget, this is the man who has a long history of plagiarism, and it was being caught plagiarising Neil Kinnock that forced him out of the 1988 POTUS race. (Yes, that Neil Kinoock!!!) 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/06/04/joe-biden-embraces-green-new-deal-he-releases-climate-plan/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmuAB5MqP0Y


And here`s a transcript of a few more plans, link to vt below;

Usually, by this point in a presidential cycle, we've got a pretty good idea what the candidates believe and you think that would be especially true this year. -- Joe Biden has been in politics for more than half a century. This is his third run for President.
Since 1969, the year of the moon landing, Joe Biden has been yammering in public virtually without stopping. Until this year.
This year, the famously chatty Joe Biden has said almost nothing. His advisers claim that's because of COVID-19, but nobody believes that.

Everybody knows why Biden won't appear in public. When he does emerge, things tend to get strange. Biden's words take on a kind of psychedelic quality. The sentences seem to be connected, yet at the same time, they are strangely disjointed. Newspaper taxis appear on the shore. Rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies. It's mesmerizing to watch, you can almost make out the tangerine trees in the marmalade skies...
This is the candidate who could soon be president of the United States. Don't tell him that, it'll only make him anxious.

The people around Biden, by contrast, are not anxious. They are completely in control. They know exactly what they want.
And Wednesday, they gave the rest of us a glimpse of what that is. The Biden campaign released a long document outlining its goals.
It was written by Eric Holder, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Symone Sanders, among others.
These are the people who will run the country if Joe Biden is elected in November.
So what's their plan? Well, in a sentence, they'd like to make the rest of America very much like our biggest cities have become -- squalid, dangerous, chaotic and unhappy.
They'd like to do to your neighborhood what they have done to New York City.
The main thing they've done to New York is to make it scary. Violent crime is surging dramatically there as we have told you night after night, and one of the main reasons for that is the elimination of cash bail.
The city no longer holds the people it arrests. Criminals are in and out of custody immediately. And many of course go on to commit more crimes.
It's nuts.
The Biden campaign plans to abolish cash bail everywhere. No bail for any crime nationwide.
Think about what that would mean. Americans are fleeing urban areas in huge numbers. Big cities are just too mismanaged. They're too dangerous. Unless you are very rich or very poor, you're getting out.
New York City lost 53,000 people in 2019. They will lose far more than that this year.

Most of these refugees have relocated to the suburbs where they imagine they are safe from the effects of disastrous urban policy. But they're not.
Democrats want to abolish the suburbs. They are too clean and nice and therefore by definition, they are racist.
The Biden campaign has highly specific plans on how to do this. It's called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing. It's a HUD regulation. It was written during the Obama administration. Biden's advisers plan to enforce it.
They will cut off critical Federal funds for municipalities unless those municipalities submit to federal control of urban planning.
Towns will be ordered to abolish zoning for single-family housing because single-family homes, needless to say, are racist.
Low-income, federally subsidized apartments will go up in the suburbs. It's a good bet Biden's team won't see any of this. You won't see projects being built in Aspen or Martha's Vineyard or anywhere else that Eric Holder vacations, but in your neighborhood, oh yes.

Your kids' schools will change, too. The Biden campaign has vowed to bring back Obama's lunatic Title 9 rules. Colleges have once again ignored due process and the presumption of innocence and instead use kangaroo courts to assess sexual assault allegations on campus. Good luck to your sons.
The country's K through 12 schools meanwhile, effectively will abandon classroom discipline.
Schools that suspend students based on their behavior, rather than according to a strict racial quota system will be punished for that. But you will have no choice but to keep your kids enrolled anyway because Biden's campaign pledges to abolish all programs that provide parents vouchers or tax breaks to send their kids somewhere else.

And then the Biden plan gets really ambitious.

It would use the Federal Reserve to fix the "racial wage gap." Central bankers will be encouraged to decide if you're being paid too much based on your skin color. -- It sounds like a great way to unite the country.

One thing the Biden administration won't enforce is immigration law. The plan promises to end workplace immigration raids. That would mean corporations could bring in effectively unlimited amounts of low-wage illegal foreign labor.
Good luck finding your son a job once he is bounced out of college by those kangaroo courts.

You might think this all sounds too crazy to be real. Politicians, of course, make a lot of promises right before elections and Biden would never actually do any of this because Democrats should be worried about losing the next election if they did. These are not popular programs.
But the Biden people have thought this through and their plan answers that question. It solves the problem.
It includes citizenship and voting rights for all illegal immigrants currently living in this country. That's at least 22 million people.
That means 22 million brand-new voters spread out across 50 states, the vast majority of them will faithfully vote for the Democratic Party.
And by the way, that's not even including all the new illegal immigration we will doubtless get with reduced border controls. The Biden campaign also promises a moratorium on deportations.

So there it is, that's the Biden plan. It is not really a blueprint to govern the country. It is a promise to utterly remake the country. And more to the point, never surrender control of it again.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-team-biden-plan-america



So, dems want;

No cows
No aeroplanes
Criminals released, without even bail, which leads to
Rocketing crime rate, but there`s
No police (joe calls it `redirecting funds`, he`d `Absolutely!` do it
Unlimited immigration
Amnesty and citizenship for all 22 million illegals
Free health care for the 22m, yet millions of Americans don`t have it
No choice in your children`s school
Much higher taxes, already declared
Far more rules and regulations, already declared 
Transgenders depriving your schoolgirl daughter of sporting achievements
`10th month` abortion, where the baby is left to die, just after birth
Zero patriotism or respect and love of the flag and anthem
Censorship/cancelling/banning; no Free Speech
etc
etc
etc
And, if not, the world ends in 12 years!


I think you`ve said a couple of times that you`re not following it too closely? Fair enough, but it seems you`ve fallen for the lies the lefties have to spew, as they know the truth means four more years. Now you have some of the facts, do you still think dems are `centre right`?

Spent so long writing that^^^, it`s in response to the `aaronh 16 Aug 20 21:03` post

hite House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Sunday offered a head-scratching response when told there’s no evidence of widespread voter fraud, contrary to President Donald Trump’s repeated suggestions otherwise.

Host Jake Tapper confronted Meadows on CNN’s “State of the Union” about the White House’s false claims regarding mail-in voting, pointing out that Trump himself requested a mail-in ballot this year.

“There’s no evidence of widespread voter fraud,” Tapper said.

“There’s no evidence that there’s not either,” Meadows responded. “That’s the definition of fraud, Jake.” 

and Accounting

how do you not get indoctrinated unlike the rest