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I`ve previously posted examples like a `17 to 1 overstating`, and 333 hospitals being caught reporting `100% positive` rates, so we know the numbers are twaddle, all part of the leftie`s campaign to bring down The Don by making things seem far worse than reality.
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Yes those crime statistics, murder rates, jobless numbers are all fake news..
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Doubtful at the rate that deaths are increasing that total deaths will be below 200K. |
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Unless they are all fake figures for folks where they don't suit their agenda?
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/511633-trump-calls-qanon-gop-primary-winner-a-future-republican-star
trump states the future of the republican party lies with racist conspiracy theorists - lets hope that's the case as it means a century of centrist politics under the democrats. |
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From the bbc...
At least 800 people died worldwide as a result of coronavirus-related misinformation in the first three months of this year, a study has found. A further 5,800 people were admitted to hospital after being exposed to false information on social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter and chat apps, the study said. The study’s authors echoed statements from the World Health Organization (WHO), which warned the Covid-19 “infodemic” spread just as quickly as the virus itself. Most of the deaths and hospital admissions were the result of people drinking methanol and alcohol-based cleaning products, wrongly believing them to be a cure for coronavirus. But following advice that resembles credible medical information - such as ingesting large quantities of vitamins - can also have “potentially serious implications”, the authors say. The paper concludes that it’s down to international agencies, governments and social media platforms to fight back against this “infodemic”. A BBC investigation, which can be read here, found links between virus misinformation and assaults, arson and deaths. |
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www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/12/joe-biden-kamala-harris-campaign-event-wilmington-delaware
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris accused Donald Trump of leaving the US “in tatters” by failing to lead the country through the coronavirus pandemic and its economic fallout. Harris accused Trump of myriad “failures in leadership” on coronavirus and running a previously successful economy “straight into the ground". This is what happens when we elect a guy who just isn’t up for the job  . Our country ends in tatters and so does our reputation around the world.” |
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big cut back on covid testing after trump demands
https://www.axios.com/were-doing-a-lot-less-coronavirus-testing-df191643-91ed-40a4-83f6-0586a7ef9930.html |
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I`ve previously posted examples like a `17 to 1 overstating`, and 333 hospitals being caught reporting `100% positive` rates, so we know the numbers are twaddle, all part of the leftie`s campaign to bring down The Don by making things seem far worse than reality.
This sounds like the ramblings of someone with symptoms of a mental illness ... |
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https://www.axios.com/were-doing-a-lot-less-coronavirus-testing-df191643-91ed-40a4-83f6-0586a7ef9930.html
link from my post above |
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trump's idiotic peace plan in the bin
https://thehill.com/policy/international/511838-trump-says-israel-uae-will-open-diplomatic-relations The move will also halt efforts by Israel to annex territory in the West Bank that was outlined in Trump’s plan for peace between Israelis and Palestinians, but widely opposed by the international community and Arab world, according to the announcement on Twitter. |
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geordie1956 13 Aug 20 16:49
I`ve previously posted examples like a `17 to 1 overstating`, and 333 hospitals being caught reporting `100% positive` rates, so we know the numbers are twaddle, all part of the leftie`s campaign to bring down The Don by making things seem far worse than reality. This sounds like the ramblings of someone with symptoms of a mental illness Really? www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7xzjd583uo www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/07/15/high-coronavirus-positive-case-rate-reveals-flaws-in-florida-department-of-health-report/ |
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You `suspect` a conspiracy theory? Isn`t that a conspiracy theory in itself, with just about the same amount of facts, and truth? Despite the evidence in front of you?
I initially referred to 333 hospitals, https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86967?xid=nl_popmed_2020-06-10&eun=g1323917d0r but the link in my previous post shows things have got WORSE!!! 17/1? Chortle at your lengthy dose of twaddle! https://texasscorecard.com/state/state-officials-say-texas-coronavirus-counts-exclude-probable-cases/ `...A presentation by Aisha Souri, an epidemiologist with Collin County Health Care Services, explained the state’s new case definitions. Souri said the definition of a confirmed case—requiring a positive PCR lab result for COVID-19—was remaining the same. “But now they’ve added a ‘probable’ case definition,” Souri said. “So, that still gets counted toward the case count. It’s different—it’s not confirmed, but it’s still a case.” So, when cnn report `cases`, they are over-reporting by 17/1. They avoid quoting `confirmed cases`, as those figures are much lower, (17x lower!) but even then they`re still wrong/lying, due to myriad reasons, including, but not limited to, this type of thing from my earlier link; `...On July 4, more than 400 labs reported 100% positive cases, by July 15 more than 475 were showing 100% COVID-19 positive results, according to the state numbers...` |
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So all those with covid test positive
Test must be working. |
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Tonight 170K deaths total is passed.
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The Don brokers a deal between UAE and Israel and what do the BBC focus on - a daft story about his hair and shower head.
TRUMP 2020 WWG1WGA |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53761744
And here is the latest bizarre story about a very bizarre person. |
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Nice photo of his hair too in bbc. Lol.
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So easy to see why trump got billy barr to send Michael Cohen back to jail unless he agreed not write his book.
https://www.axios.com/michael-cohen-trump-book-c036110d-e6f6-45d2-bf58-82a2e6317fe2.html "From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trump’s clandestine lovers, I wasn’t just a witness to the president’s rise—I was an active and eager participant." |
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Do you mean he`s got Israel to stop West Bank annexation? But haven`t lefties been screaming out for exactly that? Now that he does it, he`s still wrong?
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trump's so called peace plan that, I'm sure you trumpeted about, included annexation. Since it became obvious that this would cause massive resentment and was unacceptable to moderates in the region, trump and netanayu have desperately been looking for a way to save face. The news today appears to be that, however, both parties are now, it appears, backing away from the "deal". It looks like clown trump has just shot his mouth off prematurely again.
https://www.axios.com/netanyahu-uae-deal-annexation-plans-suspension-1fb0d2d1-8ebc-48f6-81c7-35641ba7cd09.html Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a televised address Thursday that he remains "committed to annexing parts of the West Bank," but agreed to “temporarily suspend” those plans in order to reach a normalization deal with the UAE. ... The other side: MBZ emphasized the halt on annexations, while taking a more cautious stance on the normalization of relations. He said they'd agreed to a "roadmap," not a final normalization deal |
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^ to timmeh
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dave, that`s just been discussed in the presser; the agreement includes the word `suspend`. In the real world of politics, this means both interpretations are correct.
Some of you might recall that, a few days ago, when confronted by facts, truth and evidence, the most inappropriately named poster on here, politicalpunter, refused to play, took his ball, ran away sniveling, pretended to block me, having already `blocked` InsiderTrader? Well, did any of you notice that straight away, out of nowhere this `fatslogger` username turned up? I`ve never seen him post anywhere before, not on the multitude of US/The Don threads on this forum, nor on the even more threads that were on Chit Chat? Just four minutes after his first post, pp was returning the first of an eight-post session of mutual masturbation, intended as an introduction of this `fs` character to the rest of us, with pp attempting to provide a backstory, give fs some `provenance`. Of course, we all know pp loves a bit of aftertiming, and those eight posts have both of them at it, bigly! You can find this `Reader`s Wife` style onanism on page 3 of the `joe biden delays...` thread, laugh at it for yourself. The `fs` username has posted four times on this thread; the first contained a quote of IT, (which, just five minutes later pp found funny). The other three all contain quotes of my posts. Yes, that`s right; four posts in total, each containing a quote from either IT or me, the very same two who pp claims to have blocked! And all from a stranger, just after pp had used his `block` button!!! Throw in other pieces of evidence, such as; A propensity for the word `folk/folks/folksy; sure, we all might use these words occasionally, but read back through pp`s posts and you`ll see he loves them, and fs has already used them more often in a few posts, over three days, than any of us do in a year. They `both` think they own the forum, telling us how to behave, what to post They`re `both` snowflakes, in the extreme They `both` worship polls; indeed, it`s all they`ve got An utter inability/refusal by `both` to deal with facts, truth and reason, with `both` resorting to ridiculously transparent attempts at deflection. All written in the exact same style, using the same `arguments`, but always focusing on trivialities, irrelevant to the point. They`re `both` on here every waking hour They `both` share the same opinions on every single subject They `both` like asking mind-bogglingly ignorant questions, assuming we`re lying, that they`ll somehow be able to catch us out. They won`t, they can`t, we`re telling the truth, yet still they persist.. They`re `both` mighty fine examples of `a little knowledge is a dangerous thing`. I`ve never encountered anyone else with actual, real levels of knowledge so far below what they themselves believe it to be, and even after being exposed on a daily basis, they persist with their tosh. They `both` manage the unusual act of combining supreme ignorance of their own limitations with `both` being condescending prigs. So, all of that^^^ notwithstanding, pp, let me answer your question; Fatslogger 13 Aug 20 23:07 No, pointing out that people who don't have any idea what they're talking about and sound like conspiracy theorists isn't the same as conspiracy theory. But if you link to a 1m youtube vid of someone who has taken a bunch of slides and is ranting about them out of context then it's on you that your evidence gets laughed at, not on the people laughing. Do you know that labs and hospitals aren't actually the same thing? You also know that the new article you linked to says the opposite of what you're claiming it says? It points out pretty clearly that confirmed cases are a separate measure, which is what I said when you linked the crazy woman. Isn`t `crazy` woman` derogatory and sexist? Won`t your fellow lefties get you banned? Maybe under both usernames? You didn`t like the first bit of evidence, so I supplied the second, which explains everything; try reading it again |
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Oh grow up, ffs.
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This is an absolutely fascinating example of conspiracy theory thinking in action. Wish I had more time to analyse it than I do. See something you don’t like: Trump polls; Covid deaths in the US; people telling you you’re wrong on the internet? These things can’t be true so you have to find a way to make them someone’s fault, ideally a group of people you already really dislike (lefties, Democrats, Jews and the groups can overlap, of course). So you blame those groups and find some vague explanation tying your disparate threads together that only you can see. Wake up sheeple! In Texas they’re multiplying the Covid cases by 17! Obviously when this is explained to you as rubbish, you do another wake up sheeple and demand that your evidence is reviewed, because err, you can’t really say why but the person you’re talking to has missed the gold nuggets in there that prove you’re right.
Of course, confirmation bias is really critical here, so once the notion that FS could be PP’s sock puppet (because how on earth could two independent people both think I’m being a fool?) you can spot that FS turned up at a specific time and that he’s once or twice used a word that PP also uses (actually wasn’t aware I used folks except occasionally to describe Biden as folksy so I may have learned something). Obviously you’d ignore that their prose styles are globally very different; that FS has quite a lot of medical specific knowledge that PP doesn’t share; has been on the forum for ages, although not much recently and mostly posts about cricket, a subject that PP has no interest in. The projection about deflection, a little knowledge being a dangerous thing and fact truth and reason is some pretty rich gravy too. |
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They're taking the birtherism card for a spin around the block to see if it draws attention in the neighbourhood.
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Oh, and you are right enough, I know nothing about cricket!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53774289
Dearie me, what next?  |
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timbuc , PP trolls nearly everyone on here who doesnt agree with him and then bashes them
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timbuk 3 "the futures so bright ive gotta wear shades"
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politicspunter 14 Aug 20 12:43
Lol, I haven't even had a bet on the Presidential election winner politicspunter 29 Jun 20 10:13 I had a couple of bets this morning. Pence for Republican nominee with Hills at 26.0 and Pence for President at 81.0 with Fred. Chortle at lying lefties! How easily they expose themselves! Or was that on your fs account, so doesn`t count? CHORTLE!!! |
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I think he's probably referring to not having a bet on either Trump / Biden - not a bit of spare change on Pence. Even you can see that. Chortle.
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No; he said, quite categorically, that he hadn`t had a bet, he`s a LIAR!!!
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