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markzz, this is straightforward simple stuff. I am not asking for proof either way. I am asking if you personally believe his reason for going to Barnard Castle?
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. I believe Boris will do what is best for the country
Why would anyone believe that for even a second.? All the evidence is that Johnson will do whatever he thinks is best for Johnson. He always has in all aspects of his life whether its stabbing colleagues in the back, choosing which side to back in the EU referendum that would be best for his ambitions, or leering after women. He is a serial liar and a blatant racist. Johnson was never ever a true leaver like Bill Cash or Teddy Taylor and other really principled men and women. He is a chancer and a sly egotist. |
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PP clearly you think I am being evasive, but I hope that you will believe me when I say that I am not. I do not duck direct questions. I have no means of knowing if it is true or not, and therefore I accept it unless or until it is shown not to be the case.
It is a believable explanation. I truly believe that if it was a lie then he would have made up a better lie than that. Like him or loathe him he is an excellent spin-doctor and with all the time available to him he could have certainly come up with a better explanation than that. |
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PP, I was once on jury duty and the defence's whole case amounted to, "if our client was guilty he would have come up with a much better story than the one he has told, therefore it is clearly the truth".
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markzzz, I just want to be 100% clear. You are saying that you believe the reason for Cummings trip to Barnard Castle was to test his eyesight?
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How else would you test if you were dangerous to drive because of poor eyesight?
Putting a nursery school aged child in the car and head off for a local beauty spot of course. Why would anyone disbelieve this. And the story is so ludicrous it must be true does not wash. Cummingsgate broke because he was seen in a few different locations around County Durham by people who took his car number. Whatever he made up as an excuse for his arrogance would have been a blatant lie, just like this eyesight tripe. |
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1) Would you apologise for something you had not done? 2) Laws apply to everyone the same it isn't more serious it is the same for everyone. 3) Where has he lied? 4) He thought his eyesight was OK, he was just checking, quite rightly. 5) The media is to blame for spreading deliberate lies for their own end. And finally, geezers like you are to blame as well because you are hiding your own personal reasons which are behind this. You clearly do not want this Government to succeed so shame on you. |
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When Daily Mail not happy, Conservative Party not happy.
Keep up the pressure on Cummings. The resignations should be orchestrated in such a way as to keep the story running. |
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This is old news by the end of the week. Tell them to get st uff ed Boris. To back down now would be wrong. Just plain wrong.
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71% of the public disagree.
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Who did they ask and where ffs. You don't believe that rubbish do you?
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EXCLUSIVE: ITV News Tyne Tees understands that Durham police spoke to Dominic Cummings' father for a second time about concerns raised by members of the public about another visit by his son to Durham during lockdown.
Mr Cummings' father denied the claims. -------------------------------------------------------------------- If true and is the rumoured second trip April 19th - then its good night Cummings. Who do I believe, Durham Police or Cummings Father. Let me see  .Its not clear as yet, but ominous if locals are p1ssed-off with his carry-on. |
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Durham Police have already retracted one claim ffs.
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And I bet you are one of those who wouldn't trust the Police as far as you could throw them. Wallflower.
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April 19th.. that's the Sunday following the Barnard Castle jaunt. Cummings flatly says he wasn't there. The police simply need to check Cummings' phone record. Everyone's happy, right?
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Not quite - Downing Street said they did not talk to the family. Durham Police then confirmed they did. This has been accepted. . End of. The did not retract, they clarified. It was Downing Street who stood corrected,
I'm not saying this second report is true, has yet to be confirmed. But if Durham Police said they spoke to the family a second time - you can pretty be sure they did, and wouldn't put themselves in a position to retract given the profile of this. All I am saying is, if he was there a second time, then he is definitely toast. Personally, I have my doubts about a second trip - surely he would know he was potentially traceable and he has denied this trip/visit. He couldn't deny the Barnard Castle trip (the bullsh1t story aside). Find it hard to believe he would lie about this as well, too risky. |
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brigust1 26 May 20 18:28
And I bet you are one of those who wouldn't trust the Police as far as you could throw them. Wallflower. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know there have been some "bad cops", many exposed. But I have no issue with the Police and personally any dealings I've had have been professional and courteous, on both sides. In fact they have been helpful on a couple of occasions. Just my own personal experience. HTH. |
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Tuesday May 26 2020, 12.01am, The Times
Dominic Cummings: Durham police admit giving misleading statement on aide The police force that will investigate Dominic Cummings for travelling during the lockdown admitted last night that it had made a misleading statement about its contact with his family. |
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How the f u c k can you trust a Police Force, a Police Force ffs when they make misleading, misleading statements to the Press about such a serious issue. How do you think they are going treat you and me. I wonder how many people are in jail or have been to jail and had their lives f uck ed up by the Police making a MISLEADING statement?
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I don't think Dom was back in Durham on the 19th April - he was only there the week before and it's a very long journey from London can't see him going back again so soon
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They only changed it because it was made public ffs. You are all barking up the wrong tree. ffs. It is statements from the Police that people trust.
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Next time you get pulled over or pulled up by a copper remember this. It could be you next.
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Trust ?????
 - While you defend Cummings and Johnson. Give me a break.Durham Police Statement was "misleading" but not false. The Downing Street denial was a lie. Big difference. |
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Agree - couldn't believe it was April 19th - no way he'd risk it. Likely another date (if true at all).
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Misleading information is a key factor that can affect the accuracy of eyewitness testimony. Misleading information is incorrect information given to an eyewitness following an event.
You lot are driven so much by hatred you will allow anything. Shame on you. |
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Was there any misleading information included in the ads you responded to for racing tipsters and bitcoin
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would you calm down
 .I couldn't care less really for reasons I outlined earlier. You seem so blinkered, you don't refer to the other side of the coin - which is not open to interpretation. Downing Street DENIED the Cummings family was spoken to. This denial was a lie. Only two alternatives: (1) Downing Street purposely LIED (2) Cummings lied to Downing Street .....which do you think is the case? Third option I cant think of. Not sure myself. |
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Option (3) They don't know what they are doing.
And to be fair, the Barnard Castle defence does provide substantial evidence to support this option. |
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You don't get it do you Wall. The Police have admitted they misled everyone how then do you know when they are telling the truth?
Yes the ads were misleading and that is wrong as well. No double standards here only with you guys. |
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Pray tell me Wall. Who said the family were spoken to? It wouldn't be the Durham Police would It?
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Yes, Durham Police.
I assume we wont be sure its really true until Downing Street deny it  . |
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Cummings knew he had been spotted at Barnard Castle. When it was confirmed by a witness or two, he then invented the ridiculous fib about him testing his eyesight in order to try and backfit his movements.
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They don't need to deny it. Durham Police have lost all credibility in the case.
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brigust1 26 May 20 21:06
They don't need to deny it. Durham Police have lost all credibility in the case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not nearly the credibility that Cummings and Johnson have lost. Not even close to that. |
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Durham police have lost credibility? Brigust can't be serious. It was number ten that denied the police had spoken to the Cummings family, when of course they had.
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https://twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1265393736449736704
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You are up a drainpipe now Wallflower. Best stop climbing.
As I said the Durham Police have admitted they gave out misleading information. They lied. End of. How can you believe what they say when the chips were down they lied. Case closed. Unlock. |