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Dennys and Richmond brands are owned by Kerry Group. They also own the Wall's sausages brand so certainly have UK manufacturing facilities. It would make sense to supply the UK market from there but I've no idea where they are made at present.
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I notice lots of Irish cheddar in supermarkets such as Tesco.
There's over 7million cows , 2cows for every person! |
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tory,s keep banging on about the EU has to understand blah,blah
the EU does understand it just thinks the price is to high the uk today like everyday over the last 4 years has the power in their hands to walk away,its not in the EU,s gift ,thier not leaving anywhere we were treated to the latest tory loony on newsnight last night paul barron,thinks tariffs will result in lower food prices in uk ,makes you think why these morons want to strike FTA,s around the world if we get cheaper food with tariffs now dont worry i confidently predict that the title of tory,s latest loony wont last long for barron,they,ll be at least half a dozen along by lunch time, to knock him off his perch |
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but i take off my hat to johnson,there,s not a person on earth who could negotiate himself a million to one winner,but he looks like nailing it
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He'll be nailing the working class. The tories don't want to sign up to agreements on workers rights, Corbyn was right all along.
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sageform09 Dec 20 16:08Joined: 15 Jun 01 | Topic/replies: 18,937 | Blogger: sageform's blog
Any deal has to be better than the one we had until we voted to leave. I don't want a no deal but nor do I want to back to slavery. unfortunately it's repetition of this sort of nonsensical rhetoric (slavery for fks sake?) which has driven us to do what we are about to do. think man. or read - learn about slavery - stop going along with foolishness based on nonsense. |
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British cities such as London, Bristol, Glasgow and Liverpool grew as the slave colonies became more important, while other towns and ports scrambled to reap the benefits of this lucrative trade.
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I share your fears, not on rights but on taxation. The government has an opportunity to reduce the obscenely regressive tax known as VAT. I would like to see it removed completely on things which ordinary people have to buy. The fear is that to fill the black hole created by Covid the Chancellor might increase it which would be bad news for low-income families.
I second your views on Emmental, my preferred crackers are water biscuits. |
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The Atlantic slave trade between Britain, Africa and the Americas transformed the economy of Britain as industry and commerce flourished on the back of its success.
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idiots think the Tory government (who are currently borrowing 100% + of GDP) are suddenly going to remove their own favourite form of regressive taxation. They 'have an opportunity' to do so. What, as opposed to the 10 years since they've been in Government? They've wanted rid of VAT all the time, and 'now they have an opportunity' ???? I've read it all now. pmsl. |
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Where did I say I thought they would remove it? I said the opposite. Our governments could neither remove nor decrease it while we were a member of the EU.
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Our governments could neither remove nor decrease it while we were a member of the EU
this isn't true. We have had a 20% rate of VAT while being members of the EU. EU rules state that VAT must be 15% on goods and services; and the UK could have reduced VAT on anything from 20% to 15% any time it wanted. Thinking there's a new 'opportunity' to do something they have chosen not to do previously is disingenuous. Or perhaps you didn't know the rules? |
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FWIW the Tories increased the UK's standard rate of VAT from 17.5% to 20% in 2011. Not sure what that's got to do with the EU either to be fair, it's just domestic taxation choices.
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source?
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/8238514/VAT-increase-QandA-what-is-affected-and-how-does-the-tax-work.html
The Telegraph will do (above), but there's loads of sources for a historically correct FACT  |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2011/01/will_vat_increase_help_or_harm.html
BBC for example |
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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/jan/04/vat-rise-increase-households
here's the Guardian on the same subject. I'm not making it up |
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the telegraph?
you will be quoting yougov polls next  |
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I've quoted the Telegraph, the BBC and the Guardian. As my business charges VAT I can remember the increase in VAT as something which happened. I'm fascinated by your thinking it never happened. Your credibility here is going to decrease further if you go full blown David Icke on historically verifiable events.
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i fear you have lost it old boy.i have never mentioned VAT.it is something else you are getting your butt kicked in your ramblings.
go and have a lie down in a dark room |
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young 19 pints pretending events didn't happen raises an interesting feature of modern politics. Where there used to be debate about the significance of events, and what actions society (via politics) might take in relation to generally agreed events there is now an ever increasing tendency to pretend some things which happened didn't really.
Whether or not the Government in the UK raised VAT from 17.5% to 20% in 2011 is a short debate because (as shown above) it happened. But it's really odd that loons will these days initially try to pretend events didn't happen, and then when shown, will attempt to discredit perfectly reasonable sources (whether you like the right wing Telegraph or not, I don't see many people going with the idea that they got together with the rest of the UK media and simply pretended that VAT had been raised). strange times we live in. |
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i fear you have lost it old boy.i have never mentioned VAT.it is something else you are getting your butt kicked in your ramblings.
no, I did and you asked me for a source. |
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It is true that the government has the opportunity to remove or reduce VAT after leaving the EU. To say we are currently levying VAT a few percentage points above the mandatory standard rate (as are all EU states) is splitting hairs.
We all see your pathetic effort to save face following your laughable lack of comprehension of my 11.42 post, Keep digging. |
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20% is a choice, 15% is 25% lower than 20% (not 5% lower).
£1000 cost = £200 extra in VAT (at 20%) or £150 extra at 15%. That's 25% difference. It's not 'a few percentage points' understand numbers dude. We chose not to have the lowest rate of VAT we could have had in the EU. We already had 'the opportunity' to lower VAT by 25% and we didn't. We, in fact, chose to increase VAt in 2011. Or do I lie? |
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and you yourself don't even think this government has any interest in removing VAT anyway. Hard to see your point. They didn't decrease it when they could, they wont remove it entirely now.
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Our governments could neither remove nor decrease it while we were a member of the EU
your words. not the case. |
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however, I accept, (as above) the world doesn't always stick to facts these days. you're clearly one of those.
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just another Brexiteer blaming the EU for UK domestic choices
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Foinavon10 Dec 20 15:25Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 13,269 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
It is true that the government has the opportunity to remove or reduce VAT after leaving the EU. To say we are currently levying VAT a few percentage points above the mandatory standard rate (as are all EU states) is splitting hairs. We all see your pathetic effort to save face following your laughable lack of comprehension of my 11.42 post, Keep digging. The Coalition government raised the tax following measures to save the banks after the financial crash. I don't defend the tories keeping the rate at 20% when there's no justification for it nor do I defend the EU fixing the minimum standard rate at 15%. I would like to see it removed completely on things which ordinary people have to buy. That's my point made at 11:42 this morning. |
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The Coalition government raised the tax following measures to save the banks after the financial crash.
this isn't actually true, VAT was raised as it's 'not income tax' (income tax raises being politically impossible. For some reason High Tax Tory governments get to present themselves as 'low tax' so long as they don't raise income taxes. They can raise VAT at zero political cost. In fact, witness this thread, some people are so confused about how numbers work that they don't understand the significance of the difference between percentages. 17.5% to 20% on VAT is a tax hike of slightly over 14%! VAT revenue - total was £73b in 2011 (up by £10b from £63b in 2010). So it was a significant hike. As a percentage of gvt revenue VAT rose from just under 13% to just under 14% For context: A bank rescue package worth £500 billion was announced by the British government on 8 October 2008. 2011's VAT rise represents a tiny proportion of that figure (and QE has continued throughout the following decade to provide liquidity to an ailing economy). Which if course has led to asset inflation, which has made purchasing assets (chiefly houses) ever more difficult from wages, which gets you Brexit (in part). So, your point, you'd like to see VAT removed is so unlikely as to be in the 'I wish I would win the lottery' category. Governments levy taxes and they are not going to remove ones they can get away with (politically). Whether it's justifiable (to have regressive methods of taxation) is an opinion; if you disagree you get to vote every so often. Would be interested in your costings for raising other forms of tax, or hearing about the public sector cuts you advocate. (And of course, this is all domestic decision making. Nothing to do with the EU) |
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source?
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how old are your parents?
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We can't know what was in Osborne's mind but increasing Vat is likely deflationary and perhaps he thought it was necessary to pre-empt some of the inflationary effects of creating new money.
I've only voted Conservative once in my life, in 2017, will not do so again. I don't expect them to do anything I desire; at least if we are to continue paying Vat we will not be handing over a few billion of it to the EU in future and the import duties will also boost the tax collected. No, I'm not going to discuss government spending. It would be a waste of time with all the lefties on here. I believe the NHS alone delivers value for money, I will leave it at that. |
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I've only voted Conservative once in my life, in 2017, will not do so again. I don't expect them to do anything I desire; at least if we are to continue paying Vat we will not be handing over a few billion of it to the EU in future and the import duties will also boost the tax collected.
well it sounds like you realise that to affect domestic decision making it matters who you vote for. Progress I guess. That you think 'not handing over a few billion' (ie tax revenue) to the EU is a positive thing, when the total tax-revenue retained by the UK will also be lower than currently, because of the economic harm a dislocating no-deal Brexit will bring is a strange thing to hear someone admit. It's a move towards admitting being pro-Brexit is a matter of faith, not pragmatism. Brexiteers don't generally realise this. You appear to think we hand money over to the EU and that's the end of the matter, rather than realise we were members, so we were the EU. The EU is a form of government. Governments raise tax revenue. Leaving the EU doesn't change this. We are not leaving the EU and not having any governance. This is 2020 - modern nation states have governments which raise taxes. We were baked in to the EU economically; we cannot simply retain access to a protected market if we don't play by the rules. 'I would rather have less cake so long as I don't have to share any cake' The complexity of the world, the interconnected requirement to cooperate on economics, climate, security, drug discovery, pandemic control just doesn't make this mindset relevant to successful, best-case outcomes for our country. The UK joined because it saw the success of the neighbouring countries in their massive market. We became the 5th richest country in the world while members of the EU. We are leaving because so many fools think the EU is a valid scapegoat for domestic choices. Propaganda works, and the people paying for the propaganda are going to do very nicely while ordinary people pay the bill. |
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nobody still believes that money for the NHS written on the bus stunt is a real thing. There's no Brexit bonus generated by leaving. It costs us more than we 'save'.
To be fair though, you'll be able to blame the pandemic for the cost of Brexit - the Brexit government are already demonstrating that's the plan - so don't worry that you'll have to take responsibility for your foolishness. |
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Wasn’t aware of the EU and it’s rules on vat . It is best that the U.K. government has the ability to reduce tax or raise tax independently
Another good reason for leaving , thanks |
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The EU? Well they can do as they wish
We are still happy to trade with them |
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they have rules on lots of things lfc. So do we. Governments do.
Did you know, for example, that we need to hire 50,000 new government employees to administer the rules at our borders because we 'took back control'. imagine that, duplication, new red tape, extra government spending (and therefore extra taxes or borrowing thrust on the GBP) all in the name of managing the rules which we cannot get out of anyway. The propaganda only tells you about the EU having rules though. Doesn't mention we need to have rules for everything anyway. Futility. |