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matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 15:57
Greg Clark appointed Business Secretary (6)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:00
Damian Green appointed Cabinet office Minister(7)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:05
David Gauke Work and Pensions (8)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:15
Liz Truss chief secretary to the treasury (9)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:27
Liam Fox International Trade (10)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:35
Justine Greening Education secretary (11)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:42
Sajid David Communities Secretary(12)
By:
Jes1981
When: 11 Jun 17 16:50
How many people do they need? The lay odds have been slowly reducing on May, from about 1.26 to 1.16
By:
Jes1981
When: 11 Jun 17 16:50
How many people do they need? The lay odds have been slowly reducing on May, from about 1.26 to 1.16
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:51
David Lidington Justice secretary (13)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:51
Come on betfair.
By:
Jes1981
When: 11 Jun 17 16:52
This is bloody ridiculous.
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:57
Embarrassing, really.
By:
Sybil Thorndike
When: 11 Jun 17 16:57
Betfair have to be absolutely sure before they can settle market. Maybe photo of govt. in parliament with suitable i.d. verifications will be acceptable.
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 16:58
Alan Cairns Welsh Secretary (14)
By:
Sybil Thorndike
When: 11 Jun 17 17:04
In the meantime increase stake on May forming govt.
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:05
Jeremy Hunt Health Secretary (15)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:06
Unfortunately, Sybil, for some reason betfair has suspended my ability to deposit or withdraw, since Thursday.
By:
Jes1981
When: 11 Jun 17 17:12
Someone on Twitter said she had to fill 12 posts after the main people that she appointed yesterday.
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:18
She was Prime Minister as soon as the Queen invited her to form a government. I appreciate that betfair rules are different, but only a prime minister can appoint ministers.
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 17:19
Queen's Speech has to be voted on. Pretty sure that is the acid test.
By:
DStyle
When: 11 Jun 17 17:21
that's not what i've been told. specifically it's the formalisation of the DUP agreement.

but i'm not convinced.
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:25
Chris grayling Transport Secretary (16)
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:26
Gavin Williamson Chief Whip (17)
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 17:28
Thanks for the head's up Dstyle Grin
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:31
The betfair rules do not mention anything about agreement of other parties or Queens Speech only:

"Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 17:32
Ministerial appointments are now approaching 20. Done with this now.
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 17:32
So the government is technically formed before the Queen's Speech is voted on... that makes sense actually.
By:
DStyle
When: 11 Jun 17 17:33
my feeling is that there isn't a constitutional expert at BF Towers - there might be, but I'd not be too confident.

It does seem consistent with the idea that Brenda has said she can go ahead and form a government with the DUP, that if it all goes tits up, would May have to go back and ask again?

I don't know.
By:
DStyle
When: 11 Jun 17 17:35
i should add that I specifically asked if cabinet formation or the queen's speech would be the event that concluded this market and was told it was the DUP agreement.
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 17:39
A Government hasn't been formed with out a agreement/coalition. IMVHO.
By:
Sybil Thorndike
When: 11 Jun 17 17:39
DUP will not allow agreement to be made known until tomorrow. - They are not supposed to work on Sundays!
By:
posy
When: 11 Jun 17 17:40
They need absolute assurance that the Queen's speech will be voted through.
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 17:43
They can't give absolute assurance that the Queen's speech will be voted through - the majority is 2 or something. Ken Clarke might cross to floor Mischief
By:
DStyle
When: 11 Jun 17 17:43
have you heard that from them posy? Because that's not what i've been told.
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 17:45
Arlene Foster is to meet May in No. 10 on Tuesday, according to Sky.
By:
posy
When: 11 Jun 17 18:03
No Dstyle it's my understanding of how the Constitution works
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 18:07
Interesting posy.

"We will – obviously – amend the Queen’s Speech. There’s a possibility of voting it down and we’re going to push that all the way." - Corbyn on Marr.

So is it the case that Corbyn is sowing the seed that no assurance can be given until the Quuen's Speech as actually been voted through?
By:
matty1
When: 11 Jun 17 18:10
The Queens speech is only an intention of the governments programme for the term, it can sometimes take a while for it to get to a vote.

If it doesn't go through there would normally be a vote of confidence in the government. But I bet during the debate, the Speaker refers to Theresa May as Prime Minister.
By:
winningthought
When: 11 Jun 17 18:14
OK, so we need an absolute assurance from DUP that they will vote through the Queen's Speech for the government to be considered to be formed.
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