Politics
By-election in Oldham West and Royton
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Block voting is a feature of the religion of peace.
Rotherham will forever be a stain on the British electorate. However that only accounts for part of it,Corbyn is proving himself electable. Whatever way you look at it its a stunning day for Labour and a major setback for Ukip. |
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BB thinks UKIP has done ok wildman - they haven't as you have realised. After Farage was banging on about
how UKIP were going to wipe Labour out in the north this has come as a massive blow. I take no joy in this because I want Corbyn out as Labour leader and this result sure isn't bringing that day closer. |
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If thats true its still bad news for UKIP because they've been unable to get their vote out.
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UKIP draws disproportionate support from the retired - they wouldnt have been working.
However you spin it this is a bad result for UKIP. |
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Maybe thats what they were looking for but they didn't get it did they ?
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nobody from UKIP, including Nigel Farage, said we would win Oldham West. It has been a Labour seat since the 50's, the only people that were saying labour would lose were the media. Oldham West is in Labour's top 10 safest seats, with their council leader standing for them, do you seriously think we would say he would be over turned? The momentum from May has been carried forward with spending no money, this is what we hoped for. They may not have the luxury of defending such a safe seat the next time around and I will be there to help them again.
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Denial's a good place to hang out BB.
CJ - the UKIP vote must be very soft if a bit of bad weather stops em coming out. |
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Durr - weather affects everyones votes. Labour turned out but UKIP didnt because of the weather - is that what you are saying ?
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Also the turnout was high for a by election - how does your weather argument tally with that ?
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Thanks for clearing that up
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On your second point you dont have an answer but you are happy to blame weather for a low UKIP vote despite the fact that there was a high turnout.
You're tying yourself in knots on this thread. |
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*could
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I'm not sure anyone reading this thread would understand what you are saying - why dont you have another go and try and put your points in
a clearer fashion ? |
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Im just amazed that people seriously thought labour could lose or come close to losing a seat where a quarter of the population are foreigners of the type that Corbyn and Labour have gone out of their way to court.
The media and pollsters seem to get more clueles by the day and Farage seems to have been conned into believing he had a chance. |
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Unfortunately its the same old story from you isn't it ? You construct an incoherent argument and when it falls to bits
you start calling people thick. |
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To CJ ^
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CJ Are you saying all the stories in papers like the telegraph were just based on journalists opinions and nothing else?
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The people are against immigration yet they won't vote UKIP
The people of South Thanet voted in a dodgy dealing pro immigrant Tory in preference to Nigel Farage,hard to credit. Diane James one of the most impressive women in politics can't get elected to Westminster. I think the smear campaign has worked,people not interested in politics won't vote UKIP as they are afraid,afraid of being labelled racist,that's how deep the constant propaganda has gone. Everything Nigel Farage said about the refugee crisis was correct,he alone saw the danger yet he gets no credit for it. |
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people not interested in politics won't vote UKIP as they are afraid,afraid of being labelled racist,that's how deep the constant propaganda has gone.
i was under the impression that there is a secret ballot in England. |
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Its not a secret ballot.
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houses with 12 all voting the same way ha ha ha ha
it should be stopped, but it wont be, as it upsets them |
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Im just amazed that people seriously thought labour could lose or come close to losing a seat where a quarter of the population are foreigners of the type that Corbyn and Labour have gone out of their way to court.
The UKIP result was pathetic. If they can't do better than that with an immigration crisis across europe and immigration in the UK at an all-time high, a recent terror attack, and a media that loathes Corbyn then it is over. Winning the seat was a longshot, finishing over 10,000 votes behind is a massive failure. Calling it now: UKIP is dead. The party will implode. |
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what I would be more concerned about is the muslim take over of oldham and other towns and cities
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Bad news for UKIP but the momentum to pull out of Europe is gaining pace.
With or without a successful UKIP, this country is slowly waking up to the problems of mass immigration and open borders during times of international terrorism. According to Tom Watson the talk on the doorsteps was not immigration or the divisions within Labour but tax credits. That just about sums up how small minded people can be. One could argue last night was bad news for Labour. Corbyn remains unelectable as a PM and now they're stuck with him for a while longer. |
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One could argue last night was bad news for Labour. Corbyn remains unelectable as a PM and now they're stuck with him for a while longer.
Thats how I read it Injera. - Labour have got no chance of winning a GE with Corbyn and his crew at the helm. This result was good for the Tories, keep Corbyn in and UKIP down. I know BB thinks UKIP have done ok here - they haven't it was a shockingly bad result for them. |
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According to Tom Watson the talk on the doorsteps was not immigration or the divisions within Labour but tax credits. That just about sums up how small minded people can be.
Shocking that people chose to talk about the issue that concerns them most rather than what you think they should. |
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Good luck in finding any report from a canvasser that tax credits were the main issue on the doorstep.
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People vote out of self interest shock
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