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CJ70
21 Oct 15 13:50
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Big test for Corbyn as he's defending against UKIP.

Not sure demographics will help UKIP here as 25% of the voters are Muslim. Very interesting, will be expecting UKIP to hit this hard as Corbyn won't represent many of the traditional Labour voters here.

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By:
CJ70
When: 21 Oct 15 13:52
Should be some early value on this seat with the books I'd have thought.
By:
anxious
When: 21 Oct 15 15:29
Micheal Meacher not dead five minutes and all the spivs can think about is having a go at corbyn and making a piece of silver, absolutely disgusting.
By:
Meadow X1
When: 21 Oct 15 15:39
anxious,

I was sorry to learn of Michael Meacher's passing but you have to understand this is primarily a betting site.
By:
akabula
When: 21 Oct 15 15:43
Poor anxious but life goes on.
By:
CJ70
When: 21 Oct 15 15:52

Oct 21, 2015 -- 3:29PM, anxious wrote:


Micheal Meacher not dead five minutes and all the spivs can think about is having a go at corbyn and making a piece of silver, absolutely disgusting.


It's a betting site, people make money from betting.

What do you expect? Perhaps you should try it to supplement your dole?

By:
CJ70
When: 21 Oct 15 15:53
As for Meacher. If you can't say anything nice..
By:
akabula
When: 21 Oct 15 15:53
Is this the same gut who celebrated Margaret Thatchers death? Hypocrite.
By:
anxious
When: 21 Oct 15 16:00
billy liar the rumpole of the forum
By:
CJ70
When: 21 Oct 15 16:14

Oct 21, 2015 -- 3:53PM, akabula wrote:


Is this the same gut who celebrated Margaret Thatchers death? Hypocrite.


Surely this account wasn't around when that happened?

By:
Injera
When: 21 Oct 15 16:46
A 14k majority is as safe as it gets.

Sorry to hear about Mr Meacher..
By:
Dotchinite
When: 21 Oct 15 17:02
A tragedy. He leaves a wife and 12 houses behind.
By:
CJ70
When: 21 Oct 15 17:14

Oct 21, 2015 -- 4:46PM, Injera wrote:


A 14k majority is as safe as it gets.Sorry to hear about Mr Meacher..


I suspect you're right in this case. Although the Heywood & Middleton swing last year was nearly 20%.

By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 21 Oct 15 19:41
be interesting to see what type of candidate labour select
By:
Gnarley
When: 22 Oct 15 03:12
Dotchinite    21 Oct 15 17:02 
A tragedy. He leaves a wife and 12 houses behind.

Laugh
Deserves a nod that Dotchinite, regardless of the colour of his rosette.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 22 Oct 15 08:20
Like many on the extreme left Meacher lived a lifestyle that was far from what he preached.

It will be an interesting by election,Labour know they have the religion of peace vote as they block vote ( probably why the Labour Party want to import more of them ) but surely the working class will see that Labour don't represent them.

UKIP are the party of the working class now,I think they will get upwards of 30% of the vote but that will still leave them short.
By:
Panther65
When: 22 Oct 15 08:25
Laugh @ dotchinite

Labour will hold this seat easily
By:
TommyBarnes
When: 22 Oct 15 09:48
Labour 1/7 UKIP 4/1, can't see any value there at the moment
By:
CJ70
When: 22 Oct 15 10:03

Oct 22, 2015 -- 9:48AM, TommyBarnes wrote:


Labour 1/7 UKIP 4/1, can't see any value there at the moment


Where have you found that? It doesn't seem to have been picked up on any comparison sites.

I agree, both too short for my liking on current knowns.

By:
TommyBarnes
When: 22 Oct 15 11:17
Under the thread on PB, odds at Lads they went 1/6 & 7/2 yesterday but changed this morning according to the poster
By:
Panther65
When: 22 Oct 15 11:54
its a shame its not a by election in a tight tory seat, what with all this tax credit stuff going on at present
By:
alun2005
When: 22 Oct 15 12:15
A Guardian article from 2001 about this fine Socialist Meacher, a true and proud example of Mrs Thatcher's 'property-owning democracy'.

Let's hope that in true Socialist Tony Benn style, his last will and testament ensures his assets and proceeds won't be passed on to the poor and homeless.

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jan/20/politics.labour
By:
sixtwosix
When: 22 Oct 15 17:41
UKIP will never win in Oldham West , if you had visited and seen the demographic you would why pretty sharply.
By:
CJ70
When: 23 Oct 15 10:14
Market is up on the exchange.
By:
treetop
When: 23 Oct 15 14:18
I wonder is his family have to repay his tax credits payments next April after dying mid year ?
By:
CJ70
When: 28 Oct 15 15:49
Labour selection on November 5th.
By:
sageform
When: 28 Oct 15 18:45
The politics of the last few months will almost certainly mean an increase in Labour votes in Labour seats and an increase in Tory votes in Tory ones so even if Lab. win this easily, it won't mean much.
By:
anxious
When: 28 Oct 15 19:08
the tory vote will collapse in oldham and deservedly so
By:
CJ70
When: 28 Oct 15 19:16

Oct 28, 2015 -- 6:45PM, sageform wrote:


The politics of the last few months will almost certainly mean an increase in Labour votes in Labour seats and an increase in Tory votes in Tory ones so even if Lab. win this easily, it won't mean much.


Depends. I can't see traditional Labour being drawn to Corbyn, so UKIP may well have a chance to frighten the horses here.

Plus there's a good chance of a Labour civil war over who the candidate is. I've bet accordingly.

By:
CJ70
When: 28 Oct 15 19:16

Oct 28, 2015 -- 7:08PM, anxious wrote:


the tory vote will collapse in oldham and deservedly so


What knowledge!

By:
anxious
When: 28 Oct 15 19:36
knowledge is billy i live about 10 miles away and the tories will probably come third or fourth
By:
anxious
When: 28 Oct 15 19:40
in the election micheal meacher increased his majority by about 6 thousand
By:
anxious
When: 28 Oct 15 19:43
ukip could do well if tory vote collapses but Labour will hold the seat, BNP  in recent years have done well
By:
CJ70
When: 28 Oct 15 20:20

Oct 28, 2015 -- 7:36PM, anxious wrote:


knowledge is billy i live about 10 miles away and the tories will probably come third or fourth


Yes, but you can't tie your own shoelaces, so it doesn't really matter where you live.

It's a by-election. Con will put zero effort into it.

By:
sageform
When: 29 Oct 15 11:14
Tories have as much chance in Oldham as Labour have in my constituency of Wells. Zero chance of winning in both. At least the Tories got 8187 votes in Oldham West in May. Labour got 3780 here.
By:
liam1982
When: 31 Oct 15 19:46
it seems a bit unfair how it goes off seats in each area, all labour have to do is flood places with enough immigrants to ensure ukip never get in or the tories keep enough rich people happy and theyll keep all there seats as well

it should go off total votes not seperated for each area
By:
sageform
When: 02 Nov 15 08:40
Not just about wealth, more about tradition in many areas. Almost nobody votes Labour in the west country but they did elect a lot of Lib Dems, including Wells in 2009. Incomes are below the national average in Cornwall, Devon and Somerset. Equally very few seem to vote Lib Dem in Yorkshire or Lancashire apart from a couple of exceptions.
By:
CJ70
When: 02 Nov 15 18:19
Apart from the south west being a Liberal heartland, it's a different kind of poverty you see in the south west to areas where Labour are strong.

What I find in Labour areas is that there is always blame, resentment and a lack of responsibility you don't get that attitude in the south west. Whether that's because Labour have never been particularly strong in the area, or it's a trait I don't know.

You can transplant a village from the south west to where I am in Wales, nearly identical in history, geography and make up yet the attitudes are far different when it comes down to politics. Which I find rather interesting.

Any hope for Labour in the south west outside of the inner-city slums of Bristol has been removed by the rise of UKIP. Bradshaw in Exeter is surprisingly holding his own, although I expect him to be deselected and Labour to lose the seat if Corbyn makes it to the next election.
By:
treetop
When: 02 Nov 15 20:38
Labour in the north east constantly promotes the mantra of self pity. Any conversation locally then repeats the politicial mantra,often using the same cliches trotted out by the political and journalistic commentators.
By:
mobo
When: 02 Nov 15 22:13
It won't matter.  Given the demographic you will all be bowing to the east eventually.
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