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Can UKIP win the Eastleigh by election?
Can UKIP win the Eastleigh by election?
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aginative, and hide the fly encrusted meat with vindaloo. kills the bugs as well.
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bet he eats his slop with grade A british chicken, and thinks he is getting an authentic experience.
i know he is upset me calling white, educated independent people decent, and thinks that makes me imply others are not. which i am not. what a poorly educated, government dependent individual is as a character i cannot judge. i know how they vote. LAbour and Democrat. |
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I'll tell you something - the hillbilly don't half go on.
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He is the forums Capt Mainwaring.
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ronnie owns you doc.
i am not saying that because it belittles you, thats just a bonus. |
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^^I must I own the pair of them the way they stalk me - the hillbilly and old simple three legs.
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Hey manxy, good buddy, mate friend mucker.
I mean't to ask. 3:50 Doncaster Friday march 1st. Won by Brave Spartacas. How had you got that race rated up please? |
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"Apart from Labour who else in Easleigh was representing a mainstream leftist think party? I am making nothing up"
Do you think Libdems are a right wing party? I don't like Cameron (huge numbers of right wingers wouldn't consider him to hold Tory values) and I like UKIP. Yet you seem to keep ignoring my point, banging your Labour drum and gloating at the Tories. You are an idiot imo. |
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"While Eastleigh was bad for Cameron, it was also a disaster for the Left. Bad worse than disaster?Play on words"
Jesus wept - which part of this don't you understand? The Left covers more than one party. Cameron is the leader of a single party. Singular. Plural. Understand? |
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It was bad for the on the left Lib dems?They won did they not?After a week of horrendous publicity they won!Fks sake.
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Disaster for the winners,and I'm the idiot?I do not post often but java you are on here everyday making an idiot of yourself.
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Ronnie
you said bail out the bankers My eyes aren't good Ronnie but I thought i said bail out "City backers". I mentioned bankers in the preceding sentence in another context. If "bail out" is synonomous with bankers; let us replace it with subsidise, feed or keep afloat. I was referring to the various companies involved with rail, road transport, care. power, defence, job finding, recruitment, training , security and all the other "service providers". They have by and large one client, who doesnt worry about poor performance, failure to meet targets, or price. The client simply borrows more money; and a Whitehall department "manages" the account. There are 18 different "jobfinders" currently on the payroll, all 18 have failed to hit the target i.e. perform as well as the pre-outsourced dept. We have announced massive redundancies in the armed Forces; and simultaneously outsourced billiob pound recruitment and training programmes. Dave might find A4E and their kind an "inspiration". If we are to contain our borrowing my view is that we get to grips with these companies; and the Civil Servants who supposedly look after interests. Party donations and sponsorship; jobs for ex Civil Servants; and the taxpayer getting poor value for money. Yes, the harder you work the luckier you get Total cobs. Does Usain Bolt work harder than the Silver Medallist. Is the man who gets more holes in one in the Majors working harder than the guy who is one behind. Have the kids who got a place at Eton worked harder for it; than the kid at Peckham Comprehensive. I know plenty of people who have worked their boolox off, but got nowt to show for it. |
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Hey manxy, good buddy, mate friend mucker.
I mean't to ask. 3:50 Doncaster Friday march 1st. Won by Brave Spartacas. How had you got that race rated up please? what's up doc. Fri 1st Mar 2013 3.50 Doncaster (6 runners) 32Red.com Handicap Chase Class 3, 2m3f , Good, 5yo+, Win: £6498 No Horse Total 2 Brave Spartacus (IRE) 139 1st 3.35 2.35 6 Frank The Slink 132 7 Civil Unrest (IRE) 122 1 Bahrain Storm (IRE) 115 5 Quite The Man (IRE) 92 3 Lucky Landing (IRE) 90 |
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Thanks manxy, I just wondered how much emphasis you were putting on current form.
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my ratings are generated by the hrb ratings engine doc, why dont you donate a tenner, and give it a go.
i took the 'old hrb ratings' and tweaked about with them, and kept back-testing using the system builder engine. example all handicap hurdles 2003/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12. i did this until the ratings were profitable again, ive made a decent job of them, now im downloading a month at a times worth of results since jan 1st 2010 , blending them with the bfsp daily downloads, and reformatting to a format i find pleasing on the eye, i go thru them adding columns 'rank' 'points diff to next ranked' and then internal rating 'ranks' they only deal in a horses last 3 runs form wise, then theres several other criteria. i feel they over value non finishers last time out, giving them 88 percent of benchmark, especially if the non finish was in a high grade race, it class has a different benchmark, this and several other things is why i have been prepared to do 4/6 hours a day sheet-work on them, for 6 months, to cut out the bad value bets they produce, therefore increasing roi on the rest. im confident of around 114 roi, on 25,000 bets per annum top rated that meet set criterias, and bet for churn. |
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top 4 rated
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Manxy
I admire your tenacity ! |
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aye mickstick kinda rating the ratings, if you like.
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Mister E, you did say bail out their City backers.
now to me, bankers are synonomous with the City and the word bail out. of course there are accountancy firms, insurers, money brokers, actuaries in the City, but none of these have ever been bailed out, they are solvent. to say you meant bailing out the City backers you were not referring to bankers but I was referring to the various companies involved with rail, road transport, care. power, defence, job finding, recruitment, training , security and all the other "service providers". is ridiculous. the kants painting lines on roads, doing touchy toes tests to spassies on incapacity, and wiping a$$es in care homes on government pay are not based in the City or employed by "city backers". you meant banks and the various related financial markets flotsam. why else say "bail out their City backers". that has f all to do with the above italicized list. |
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Manxy,
hrb - would that be horseracebase.com? They give three day free trial as well if its them. I'll probably give them a go. I'd be looking at races where the ratings agree with my own ratings. |
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look at this, somebody lecturing a forum on how they get luckier as they work harder, greedily grabbing the lure of random people offering them easy winnings.
it does make me laugh, but underneath it i also get a frisson of grim satisfaction. because such is the desparation that comes across from this excitement of a random tipline, it must mean someone is late on rent, and his heavily leveraged, insolvent "portfolio" of crud is not providing the lucre that was promised him by the spiky haired kant in the realtor office. |
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maybe one of his tenants asked for a new plug socket, and such is his interest repayments it took away his razor thin margin. i do seem to remember him frothing about having to use an electrician under law.
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he is not biting ron.
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a dog that has just had its throat ripped out by a wolf tends not to be able to bite back.
there is a whistling effect, but it is silent. |
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It's not a tipline is it manxy.
I understand that its a programme that generates ratings, and you can adjust the weightings of the criteria to suit yourself. Is that it manxy? |
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I wonder what the hillbilly gambles on?
He must gamble on something or he wouldn't be here. Come on hillbilly let's have it? |
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yeah, a ratings engine, that will rate a race on all the set criteria, whether the race was 10yrs ago or tomorrow, there is no back-fitting involved.
horseracebase. |
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manxy that sounds very useful.
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yes I've seen the ratings you've put up, and bearing in mind that any set of ratings will produce winners, they seem a lot more consistent than that.
I suppose your own knowledge is reflected there. |
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The hillbilly's gone quiet.
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I remember the episode where the Beverly Hillbillys went to the races.
I can just picture RR as Jed Clampett – wee doggies! Lol |
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i love numbers doc, playing the market, if i could churn 50k bets with a 108 roi, whilst compounding, i would be quite happy, thats a very healthy nett long term margin.
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"It was bad for the on the left Lib dems?They won did they not?After a week of horrendous publicity they won!Fks sake."
Not really sure where to go with this as it seems you don't even understand percentages. If the Tories held some leafy southern constituency with a massively reduced margin in a by-election would you say it was a good night for them? |
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It was a bad result for everybody.
50% turnout, everybody except UKIP saw a big drop and UKIP still can't win a seat. Elections are becoming more and more pointless |
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"Have the kids who got a place at Eton worked harder for it; than the kid at Peckham Comprehensive."
Almost certainly. Although it's not the Peckham kid's fault - just his environment. The privately educated kid will be putting in more hours of diligence though by a massive margin, largely due to the pressure of parents. |
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Agree 100% java.
Although it's not the Peckham kid's fault - just his environment Exactly and his environment is no reflection on him not being lucky because he didnt work hard enough. Parental influence is a major factor; but we don't choose our parents. The kid in Peckham may have worked his nuts off between the ages of 4 and 11, but it is not reflected in his failure to get to Eton. Any more than the Eton pupil's school is reflected in him having worked harder. By and large luck is precisely that. I admire all who are born with less advantages and work their way out of it. |
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So don't we all Mister E. Where many ofus differ is the inclination to skew our education system to push kids forward on their envronment rather than proven ability. I know this can be debatable but I abhor discrimination, even the so called positive discrimination for wimmin,etc.
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