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chipfire227
02 Dec 11 17:49
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Looks like there's about 250 registered for tomorrow nights MTT already, but I haven't got a ticket despite generating more than the 50 points required playing 2 or more cash tables yesterday.

Wondered if anyone else has got theirs ?

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By:
chipfire227
When: 02 Dec 11 18:04
Alternatively can someone clarify how many poker points you need to generate 50 player points ?
By:
brightonaremagic
When: 02 Dec 11 18:12
I have still not received my ticket. It was all a bit of a rush for me as did not realise that it had to be completed by Midnight CET.
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 02 Dec 11 20:30
1player point is 4 betfair betting commision points.



How do I earn Betfair Points from Poker?
You earn 'Betfair Points' every time you pay rake and therefore create 'Player Points'. You will receive four 'Betfair Points' for every 'Player Point' earned:

1 Player Point = 4 Betfair Point

'Betfair Points' will be credited to your account once a day for your past day activity.ir sport exchange point.
By:
chipfire227
When: 02 Dec 11 21:44
Yeah I was sure it was either 3 and a half or four poker points to a player point. According to my statement I got 213 playing cash games, at which point I quit. However when I go onto the promo page the monitor thing that shows how much progress you have made is only halfway across.

Had a feeling this would be farcical, and of course there will be nobody in the Promotions Dept over the weekend to chase up tickets for people.

Given they cant get data to update a weekly leaderboard once a week for STT'S have a feeling the MON,TUES,WEDS, Promo will be a shambles too.
By:
NickFiickTheOriginal
When: 02 Dec 11 22:13
Have not got mine either. Sure I did enough. But my cash play was real bad last night.
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Dec 11 18:45
Doesn't look like I'm getting my ticket. Only 342 runners at the moment so looks like a fair few have missed out. If there's loads of discos could be really good value an all. Sad
By:
Apocolypse
When: 03 Dec 11 19:10
I didn't get mine either!! Played for 10 hours 4/6 tables omaha hi\lo.
Called them 3 times today, they said that they will credit me a ticket 30 seconds after it started....ffs
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Dec 11 19:22
Cant be boshed to rack up points today and tomorrow for the next one, all seems a bit pointless. Was going to have a stab at the sit no go leaderboard thing Mon, Tues, Weds, but as they haven't been able to update the weekly one for about 3 weeks it doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it ?
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Dec 11 19:36
Will try and speak to someone at BF about this next week, and if I dont get any joy will raise it at Q and A session a week Monday. At the very least players should get tickets for the next Freeroll.

If anyone thinks they generated the points required on Thursday but didn't get a ticket, if your post your usernames on this thread I will include you in my email.
By:
Cherry_Blossom_Shoe_polish
When: 03 Dec 11 19:42
chipfire227 if i had a ticket i would give it to you because i think you deserve it because of all your positive input on the forum you could treat as some sort of recognition to your contribution to betfair poker and it's forum.It's a pleasure to have people around like you and thanks for all you do to help us punters here grinding away  all the best and b lucky chips and may all your pots be monsters
By:
Apocolypse
When: 03 Dec 11 19:52
jinzo. Thanks for trying to get this site sorted out chip!!
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 03 Dec 11 20:10
How do you know when you have accumulated enough points for todays promotions please?

Such a joke as per usual.  Leaderboard updates are disgusting!
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Dec 11 20:35
According to gnasher 4 Betfair poker points equals one player point. So if he is right you would have needed to generate 200 Betfair poker points on Thursday 1st December, playing at least 2 cash tables at the same time.

The problem of course is that while you can check your BF poker points going via "MY ACCOUNT" to your BF points statement, I've no idea how you check player points. Its also complicated if like me you also play STTS, as its difficult to distinguish between points generated playing cash and those generated playing STTS.

I generated about 500 points on Thursday according to my statement, but it would be impossible for me to prove at least 200 of them were gained via cash games where I was playing at least 2 tables.

I've no idea why they leave so little time between the qualification period and the Freeroll, especially when the promotions team only seem to work 9-5 Mon-Fri.
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 03 Dec 11 20:42
I think you can check your player points by going into your players club and clicking on 'more points details'?
By:
ajcairns.
When: 03 Dec 11 20:44
the promotions team only seem to work 9-5 Mon-Fri.


Pushing a bit chipfire.  If there is one recurring thing that is so easy so sort its a decent, useful promo team. Unfortunately the bf team rarely fail to **** something up. Perhaps you could raise this the next time you go to bf towers.
By:
brightonaremagic
When: 03 Dec 11 20:50
Never received my ticket and I definitely opted in and generated enough points during the stipulated time period (cgull69)
By:
Ovalman.
When: 03 Dec 11 21:11
I got 3 "new player" $2500 tickets in my account :) I had 3 missed calls from Betfair to my mobile and I suspect that's where they came from. Afaik they have low numbers so it will work out around $30 of buy ins.
By:
appollo
When: 03 Dec 11 21:26
Basically you get 5 poker player points for every &1 of rake paid, (or 1 point for every 20c). So whenever I try for such promos, I check players club for points total before I start and then check after so long to confirm that I've achieved enough points.
By:
appollo
When: 03 Dec 11 21:27
That should read $1
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 03 Dec 11 21:30
u get 4pts now forevery dollar raked.

it can b found under useful questions in the poker tab.

i copied and pasted the reveleant page on adiff thread.
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Dec 11 21:32
Obviously some of the promotions team work weekends, but that tends to be on live events like BF Prague next weekend. The bods manning the phones today would merely be message takers, with no real power to do anything. I sent an email off late yesterday afternoon, more in hope than expectation.
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Dec 11 22:03
Checking players club before and after is only going to give you an accurate picture so long as you play cash only in that session. If, like me, you are playing the odd STT and MTT in the same session it gets more complicated.

From day one with Ongame we have had a recurring problem with any promotion or leaderboard that requires them to capture data and  act upon it or pass it onto Betfair. It doesn't work, it has never worked, and it probably never will work. At least with the last few promotions they seemed to have learnt their lesson and allowed at least 4 or 5 days after the qualification period ended and the MTT started to sort out the mess. With this one the qualification period ended at midnight on Thursday and the MTT was Saturday night. Given no fker with any clout at Betfair works Saturdays it was a recipe for disaster.

Given there's a handful of regs on here didn't get tickets, God alone knows how many others didn't. I was out all day yesterday but it took me about 10 minutes when I got in around 5pm to suss out something wasn't right. No idea why someone paid to run these things at Ongame didn't given every single similar promo they have runthere have been people who shouldhave had tickets who didn't get them.

Pretty sure current chip leader ( Raith Rover ) is a regular who posts on here from time to time, so hopefully he will make the top 10.
By:
appollo
When: 03 Dec 11 22:30
Yes sorry Gnasher, I didn't relise that they had changed the formula, but your right it is 4 points for every $1.
You have my sympathies Chip and you quite right about the failure to issue tickets. I know of 2 people who didn't get tickets for the 'mo' promotion and that again caused problems as the tournament was cancelled at no notice. I'm sure there will be more than the 7 original entries in the rescheduled tournament on Wednesday.
By:
raithrover
When: 04 Dec 11 00:10
Haha! I got a mention!

Yeah m8, I actually finished miles 1st when it got down to last 10 before the 'all in fest' so have a shiny new Ipad on the way (despite the fact I haven't a clue what it does....I struggle to send a text message on my mobile phone as it is)

Regards the poker points, there was a bar at the top when you went into the promotion on the calendar which went up as you played, it DID go up alot slower than I expected to be fair, took me at least an hour playing 2 x 1$/1$ omaha heads up tables (and that racks up points)
By:
raithrover
When: 04 Dec 11 00:16
*yeah, just checked, in the calendar, the 'tick' goes blue from grey once the bar is full if thats any use for you in upcoming ones.
By:
chipfire227
When: 04 Dec 11 11:13
Well played mate, enjoy !

Clearly the issue here is this bar, monitor, thing, is updated by Ongame, and you are totally reliant upon it giving an accurate reflection of your play. I'm pretty certain I generated 213 Betfair points playing cash, which should have taken me just over the 50 player points, but the bar never went beyond halfway.

I did play 2 sessions of cash, with an STT session either side of it, so wonder if that's knocked their calculator sideways ?
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 04 Dec 11 20:31
Chip do u have any idea about the promo on the 14/15/16th?  It says you have to play in every scheduled mtt.  Is this for real?  What if 200 people decide to do it?
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 04 Dec 11 21:01
it doesnt mean u play all of em, it means all of em count towards the leaderboard.[except sats and feeders to other comps,which account for the majority of the mtt lobby]
By:
chipfire227
When: 05 Dec 11 02:35
Leaderboards a farce for the stt thing  already. gnasher top of board, ive been multitabling for 2 and a half hours, i'm winning, and not even got a point to my name.
By:
chipfire227
When: 05 Dec 11 03:04
Fk this for a game of soldiers, played for 3 hours 4 tabling low  stakes turbo stts, returned a +30% ROI, and still not registered a single point, despite winning 4 x 10 seaters.

Utter, utter, set of fking amateurs. Laugh
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 05 Dec 11 03:55
no idea how it works.

isit a volume race, or a roi one?
after an hr ihad 90ptsin2nd, after 2 igot 40 ptstotal,and still 2nd.

c whtait says in the morning.
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 05 Dec 11 03:59
3rd update
1    axelschultz    103.11
2    gnasher8    79.53
3    doenermoench    71.92
4    b i a 8 9    68.80
5    Ph0en1xFire    65.28
6    CAPKA3M    64.12
7    Helbee    63.67
8    maXX_CZ    56.43
9    boglarka10    54.99
10    Sod0m    52.50
11    .STFU.    50.02
12    sheldon55    48.40
13    pookstelk    47.31
14    akakuraj37    41.56
15    kaput251    41.43
16    Fury.kk    38.72
17    MikaDogs    37.02
18    HiATMs    36.89
19    AgressivFold    34.90
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 05 Dec 11 04:02
and found the formula,
Formula and prize distribution


Formula: pts = [ pp.0.8 / pf 0.5] *.1



PP = Prize pool
PF = Place finished


Prize distribution:

Rank    Prize
1 to 25    iPad 16GB WiFi Edition
26    $400
27    $250
28-30    $150
31-41    $100
42-55    $50
56-75    $30
76-125    $15
126-200    $10thou no idea howit works.
By:
Bruce Willis
When: 05 Dec 11 10:30
Guys, can you tell me roughly what 10 points in the stt leaderboard equates to? buy in and finish in the stt etc
By:
chipfire227
When: 05 Dec 11 11:05
No idea Bruce, and I've gone beyond the point of caring. What's the point of a series of promotions where your play isn't generating points or tickets, and there is nobody you can contact to rectify the situation until it's too late ?

If they (Ongame)cant even get basic data collection sorted for a fking leaderboard or issue tickets for a freeroll, what chance have you got of them catching colluders and keeping the thing from crashing 3 times a week ?
By:
Bruce Willis
When: 05 Dec 11 11:30
I sent you a message on the forum chip. Btw your on the leaderboard, saw your name
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 05 Dec 11 12:01
16pts, 170 odd position. i think it was
By:
chipfire227
When: 05 Dec 11 12:14
16 points....lmfao...r1GGED innit. Laugh
By:
chipfire227
When: 05 Dec 11 12:18
Presumably the points I got playing from midnight till 3 am don't count then ? Sad
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